Skip to comments.Gun club to allow alcohol sales [GA]
Posted on 09/20/2012 11:08:32 AM PDT by Daffynition
POWDER SPRINGS, Ga.
Kristina Brown and her husband own Lakeside Guns Shop in Acworth, but they are in the process of building a $3.5 million gun range called The Governor's Club in Powder Springs.
Brown told Channel 2's Dave Huddleston the club will be state of the art and have a lounge that serves alcohol.
A new sub division is being built about 100 yards from the club and some home owners in the area off C.H. James Parkway and Elliot Road think having a gun range and alcohol in the same location is a bad idea.
(Excerpt) Read more at wsbtv.com ...
** "Customers will have to order a drink with their identification card and once the card is accepted, and flagged, they cannot be checked back into the range that day." The statement went on to say, "Georgia Law allows persons with gun permits to bring their weapon into a restaurant that serves alcohol, we are taking it even a step further."**
“Customers will have to order a drink with their identification card and once the card is accepted, and flagged, they cannot be checked back into the range that day.”
The rule seems a bit harsh and in the end limits 2nd Amendment Rights.
Convince a power hungry, self anointed know it all liberal democrat that this will make it safe.
Alcohol is bad, guns are bad, and most everything else that brings personal pleasure is bad to a fruitcake liberal democrat God wannabe.
After all, personal responsibility unchecked in a free society is not acceptable to a democrat tyrant.
what could possibly go wrong?
Neither alcohol, nor guns are bad. I'm no liberal; I'm a hunter and avid gun enthusiast, and I'm sure no teetotaler; BUT this rule makes perfect sense!!
Mixing intoxicants of ANY kind with weapons is an accident waiting to happen. I can't tell you how disgusted I get when I hear other guys brag about going hunting with Jack Daniels and shooting up all creation while drunk. (BTW for those of you who think that's part of the hunting experience—you're wrong. It's actually juvenile insanity!)
I used to shoot skeet at a club that had bottled beer for sale to club members. I didn’t have a shotgun at the time. I’d go shoot for a while, clean the club Citori, check it back in and have a beer or two talking guns with other club members in the clubhouse.
Wasn’t any big deal, never saw or heard of an incident of drunken idiocy. I went about once a week for a while, it was a very pleasant atmosphere. There were always lots of members there, and I don’t think that ANY of them would have put up with nonsense.
It never would have occurred to me to try to go back on the range when I’d had alcohol, so I don’t remember an explicitly stated rule against it, but I don’t doubt that there was one.
Good for them!
ATF&E should be a convenience store, not a government bureau!
The guns aren’t the problem. It is driving home after that is far more risky, at least for DUI citations.
Think about it, how many LEOs belong to gun clubs. If they see someone knock down a few then head out to their car, they are pretty well obligated to intervene.
So their best bet would be that, as part of membership offer a shuttle ride home program, with a secure gun storage compartment. Maybe with a valet service to drive their vehicle home for them as well.
Doing it this way would be a real class act, and encourage their members to make a real day of it.
If they wanted to go for the gold, they could offer robotic gun cleaning while they were in the bar.
C’mon folks, get some sense! This no more limits the 2nd amendment than prohibiting the false cry of “FIRE” in a theater limits free speech!
No “Right” is absolute; not even the God-given right to life! The 2nd amendment doesn't give anyone the right to plink at cans with a neighbor's house directly beyond! A common-sense restriction on alcohol at a shooting range doesn't keep anyone from bearing arms if they wish.
I don’t think it’s such a good idea either. They should move the subdivision further away from the gun range.
I’ve found that I get a little relaxed after a few beers and my pool shooting generally improves, then gets worse after 5-7 beers. Maybe my gun shooting would improve with a couple beers?
Sell cigarettes too?
Sounds like fun
Well, so far, nothing. We sell beer at our turkey shoot every weekend during winter. That's been going on for 50+ years.
So is driving a car and drinking.
Should we force all responsible person to sell their car if they are drinkers?
If an idiot is going to be irresponsible and tote a loaded weapon when they are "drunk" they are going to do it anyway because they are an idiot.
Personally, I would drink at the range if I was thirsty AFTER my sidearm was unloaded and in a lock box or my rifle cleared and cased.
Tossing the baby out with the bath water is a standard operation any more.
Great! Someone will get drunk and shoot their mouth off at the wrong time and get in trouble.
I used to belong to a range that did so - in New York. Obvious rule was imbibe ONLY AFTER range time.
If it’s not considered a problem in NY, it’s not a problem.
Good sane post..........
Not really. It’s a private business. They can refuse service to anyone. If you don’t like it you’re free to open up a gun range that allows alcohol consumption before, during, or after shooting. Have fun getting insurance on that.
>The guns arent the problem. It is driving home after that is far more risky, at least for DUI citations.<
Bar owners and barkeeps are routinely sued when someone *drinks ‘n drives* and there is atragic accident. I would think these club owners are putting themselves at great risk and they understand that fact.
We belong to a private gun club...and while the bar is seldom *open*, when it is, I’ve never seen anyone who has had a drink/been drinking go on the line. I’ve never really thought about it much...I think there is a lot of *self-policing* aka responsibility going on.
This is not about guns. It is about alcohol. It is about constructing a booze joint next to a new (residential?) development. Back in the day, I lived close enough to a bar that nobody would step on my fingers on the way home.
Sometimes my wife would say, "How come you came home half-drunk?" to which I could only respond, "I ran out of money."
After they brought my son home in a long box due to his Escort being run over by a Greyhound bus, due to him following my example, and after he had a long, wet night after work, I finally decided that alcohol is not my friend or anybody else's.
I didn't lose my wife and son because of because of being on the Syracuse University Rifle Team, or of having Expert rating in M-1 Rifle, M-1 Carbine, and BAR, or of going to the gun range whenever I could.
Alcohol and people don't mix. Most certainly guns and alcohol do not mix. People, guns, and alcohol do not mix. If you are going to drink, leave your car home. If you are going to drink, leave your gun home. If you are going run into an argumentative drunk, stay away from bars when you are carrying.
Why do these entrepreneurs need to run a booze joint with their range? Can't their range make a profit without the booze sales? How about just having a restaurant that everyone that has children and hates booze can go to? Etc.
Are guns the curse of the drinking class? You have your opinion, I have mine.
This is a common misconception. The Second Amendment--and the rest of The Bill Of Rights, too, for that matter--places limits only on the Federal Government, and--by extension through the Fourteenth Amendment--on state and local governments. It in no way limits private individuals, who are free to impose whatever limits on your rights they choose--except where specifically prohibited by law.
A private employer may, for example, limit your freedom of speech, your freedom of assembly, or your ability to bear arms in his workplace, or even off of his premises if you are "on the clock" working for him.
betcha that the swiss don’t have thousands of bottom-dwelling torts ‘lieyers’ lurking in wait for something to go wrong..
That's about what I remember from my days there.
There are a couple of high-end gun clubs in Dutchess county, NY that have VERY nice dining facilities for the members - think “Country club with guns”.
Definitely not a problem.
I hear ya.
I’m so sorry for your loss.
As stated above, I think the owners understand their liabilities with this venture from the get-go.
It’s risky enough to own a gun range and a customer, who has little or no training in firearm safety does something stupid.
I’m thinking about all the golfers who hang around a *Nineteeth Hole* w/ their buddies after a round ....and then they drive home..........
Top 10 Red Neck Gun Safety Tips:
10. Always keep your gun pointed in a safe direction, such as at at hippie or communist.
9. Dumb children may get a hold of your guns and shoot eachother. If your children are dumb, put them up for adoption to protect your guns.
8. No matter how responsible he seems, never give your gun to a monkey.
7. If guns make you nervous, drink a bottle of whiskey before heading to the practice range.
6. When unholstering your weapon, its customary to say Excuse me while I whip this out.
5. Dont load your gun unless you are ready to shoot something or are just feeling generally angry.
4. If your gun misfires, never look down the barrel to inspect it. Have someone else do that for you.
3. Never use your gun to pistol whip someone. That could mar the finish.
2. No matter how excited you are about buying your first gun, do not run around the store yelling I have a gun! I have a gun!.
1. And the most important rule of gun safety. Dont pi$$ me off!
“8. No matter how responsible he seems, never give your gun to a monkey.”
NOW you tell me.
Sure there is a risk, but there is also mitigation. Some bars go so far as to check patrons car keys, which they won’t return unless the patron passes a Breathalyzer test.
Others provide lounges for patrons to sleep it off if they drink too much. Lots of ideas out there.
I wonder at people who come to the *burbs* and move into a development that borders a dairy farm...and even though that farm may have been there for several generations...they complain about the *smell*.
What will one beer do to ones senses to preculde them from shooting well? I can drink 2-3 beers and juggle 4 balls. What is your point?
Case in point, there is a sugar mill about 2 miles away from my house, been there for nearly 100 years.
A subdivision was built about ¼ mile away from it, basically in the middle of sugar cane fields.
Idiots bought houses and now complain about the noise during harvest season. (Steam turbine powered, about the sound of a F-15 taking off with afterburners on at times)
Farms to mill road runs through subdivision for tractors pulling wagons, idiots who bought houses complain about that.
My sympathy for those folks is a negative number ..Idiots.