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Clinton fails to convince Republicans on administration's account of Libya attack
The Hill ^ | September 20, 2012 | Julian Pecquet

Posted on 09/20/2012 4:18:17 PM PDT by jazusamo

Republican lawmakers left a closed-door briefing with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other officials on Thursday still unconvinced by the administration's assessment that last week's attack that killed four Americans in Libya wasn't a premeditated act of terrorism.

“They're trying to cover their behinds,” Rep. Bill Flores (R-Texas) told The Hill upon leaving the House briefing with Clinton, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and Deputy Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter. Asked if they were successful, he said: “No.”

On the Senate side, things were no different according to Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) “That is the most useless worthless briefing I have attended in a long time,” shortly after the administration officials made their case to the upper chamber.

“I really think they hurt themselves tremendously from the standpoint of trying to build trust," he told reporters. “It, if anything, built far greater distrust in what’s happening than in answering questions. It was pretty unbelievable.”

For his part, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said the information provided to lawmakers on Thursday was nothing new and that lack of information has become a trend with the White House.

"From this administration, I have never gotten information that I have not seen or heard before," McCain said. Including Thursday's Libya briefing, the White House has maintained "a perfect record" in that regard, he added.

Republicans for the past week have been assailing the Obama administration's position the consulate attack was not a coordinated strike, but a protest in reaction to a U.S-made anti-Islam video on YouTube that turned violent. U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice first made the remarks on the Sunday news shows over the weekend, basing her comments on the initial intelligence available.

The administration has since started to call the attack an act of terrorism, but continues to argue it was unplanned. Clinton and the other officials briefed all House and Senate members for the first time Thursday.

“I believe that it's really a stretch — a long stretch — to believe that all of this by coincidence happened on 9/11,” Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.) told The Hill after the briefing. He said his opinion hasn't changed, “even though that's not necessarily what they're telling me.”

But Rep. Buck McKeon (R-Calif.), the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, told reporters it was clear what happened in Benghazi last Tuesday.

It was a “planned, premeditated attack,” he said. “It's pretty obvious [Stevens] did not have adequate security,” he added.

The administration's previous claims the attack was simply a protest gone horribly wrong and current argument the attack was unplanned simply "sets our efforts back" to address al Qaeda's growing influence in Libya, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) added.

But not all Republicans were as willing to chastise the administration's lack of disclosure during Thursday's briefings. Sen. Richard Lugar (R-Ind.), ranking member on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said he thought it was a good briefing.

“I would disagree,” Lugar said when asked about complaints from other lawmakers. “I felt it was very comprehensive.”

Senate Intelligence Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) also defended the level of information the administration gave to lawmakers.

“I feel that we received a briefing that was comprehensive,” Feinstein told reporters.

“I don’t believe they were holding back. I think they said what they knew," she added. "They’re very concerned and they want to do this right and put the evidence together and make the case that will stand.”

Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.), who helped write the Embassy Security Act after the 1998 attacks on the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, said he was confident the truth would come out — even if it's after the election. Clinton announced Thursday that retired Ambassador Thomas Pickering has been selected to lead an independent investigation into the Libya attack, which is due to Congress within 60 days.


“We still don't know how long it took them to put this whole attack together, does it comport with a timeline of when the movie came out ... so we're still in the learning stage,” he said. “I always want to trust but verify.”

—Carlo Muñoz and Jeremy Herb contributed.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: clinton; kenyanbornmuzzie; libya; lyingliberals; obama; terrorism; waronterror; wot
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Obama, Clinton and the Dems are in way over their heads on this one. They lied too many times with the MSM backing them and it looks like the MSM is through covering for them.
1 posted on 09/20/2012 4:18:29 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

2 posted on 09/20/2012 4:20:19 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: jazusamo

LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE
and it is built on a fake birth certificate
by an undocumented fraud.


3 posted on 09/20/2012 4:21:35 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: jazusamo

So what is Congress going to do about it? wait for more scraps of fat in closed door non-briefings? House should conduct hearings.


4 posted on 09/20/2012 4:24:01 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: jazusamo

Oh that picture? That’s just some friendly helpful Libyans taking the ambassador to the hospital.


5 posted on 09/20/2012 4:24:01 PM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: MissMagnolia

That flag replica on his campaign site just slays me, it reflects what thugs he and his worshipers are.


6 posted on 09/20/2012 4:24:22 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Lugar, what a scumbag. I’m so glad he will be gone soon.


7 posted on 09/20/2012 4:26:23 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: plain talk

They darn well should have hearings and start now but won’t hold my breath.


8 posted on 09/20/2012 4:26:31 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Lurker
Lugar, what a scumbag. I’m so glad he will be gone soon.

My thoughts too when I read that, good riddance.

9 posted on 09/20/2012 4:28:12 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

10 posted on 09/20/2012 4:29:29 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: jazusamo
“I would disagree,” Lugar said when asked about complaints from other lawmakers. “I felt it was very comprehensive.”

I wonder what's in Lugar's FBI files that makes him so gooey and pliable when he's supposed to instead represent his constituents and uphold his oath of office.

For every good member of congress term limits would get rid of, how many rotten to the core members would also be fired?

Let's find out...

11 posted on 09/20/2012 4:29:50 PM PDT by GBA
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To: RedMDer

the usual.....obama just disappears....


12 posted on 09/20/2012 4:32:31 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: GBA
I'm for it, term limits would only improve our representation.
13 posted on 09/20/2012 4:33:28 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: GBA

Lugar is representing his constituents. It just so happens that he hasn’t considered his constituency to be the people of the State of Indiana in decades.


14 posted on 09/20/2012 4:37:59 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: MissMagnolia
BTTT! Expose the Marxist. He thinks that he can use our flag as a symbol for himself while denigrating it in the process. Oh wait, he already did that.

N BAMA!
15 posted on 09/20/2012 4:38:37 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: GBA

Lugar...lol...primaried out.


16 posted on 09/20/2012 4:39:36 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: RedMDer
Thanks for posting that, RedMDer.

This poor excuse for a president only thinks of himself. Not only appearing on Letterman but the two days after 9/11 he campaigned first in NV and then CO with the ME in flames.

17 posted on 09/20/2012 4:41:12 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Lurker

Too bad Lugar wasn’t gone when he lost his primary. In that regard, the parliamentary system is better. You lose the election, and you’re gone...no lame ducks to do damage.


18 posted on 09/20/2012 4:42:32 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: jazusamo
Were the Republicans too polite to use the expression "suspension of disbelief?

This would be too delicious used against Hillary.

19 posted on 09/20/2012 4:45:05 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: jazusamo

Was Huma at the meeting, I wonder.


20 posted on 09/20/2012 4:49:25 PM PDT by Josephat (`)
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To: jazusamo
`I'm going to miss Democrats in the White House.' Satan, with portfolio
21 posted on 09/20/2012 4:55:05 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: jazusamo
I can't help thinking there's something big, something very, very damaging to Obama that hasn't come out yet about this entire situation. Whatever it is, it's more than just an embarrassing failure of Obama’s Middle East policy. Even as more and more evidence comes out that this was a well planned attack that had been in the works for some time, Obama’s people are still sticking to their basic story that “we don't know all the facts” and that the video is primarily to blame. You would think the revelation that the mastermind behind the Libya attacked was a detainee at Gitmo that was released during the Bush administration would be viewed as a Godsend, giving Obama an opportunity to blame this whole thing on Bush. So far, however, they haven't done anything with that, causing me to think there's something really big, something his friends in the media can't spin, that they are trying to keep quiet.
22 posted on 09/20/2012 4:55:44 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: Josephat

Was hillary wearing an earpiece?


23 posted on 09/20/2012 4:56:37 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: MissMagnolia

GREAT GRAPHIC!


24 posted on 09/20/2012 4:58:10 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: jazusamo

25 posted on 09/20/2012 5:02:53 PM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: GreenHornet
I don't know but I'm honestly not surprised any longer when something outrageous surfaces about Obama and the lengths he and his worshipers will go to to make him look squeaky clean, it really is pathetic.
26 posted on 09/20/2012 5:03:40 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: MestaMachine; mkboyce

Hat tip to FReeper mkboyce


27 posted on 09/20/2012 5:05:04 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: GreenHornet
Go to The Blaze.com. Glen Beck puts out a theory that Stevens was CIA. He went to Benghazi to broker a deal to return armaments the US had previously provided the rebels. According to Beck, Stevens was lured to his death, and then killed. Sounds as plausible as anything else since none of these questions have been answered:

1. What was the ambassador doing in Benghazi?

2. On 9/11?

3. He had no advance team and virtually no security. Why not?

4. Who were the x-seals who just happened to be there but were not part of Steven's security? Who were they working for? What were they doing in Benghazi on 9/11?

28 posted on 09/20/2012 5:07:50 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: stormhill

Wow, I had forgotten all about that one. Now would be a perfect time for someone in office to use it. The coverup is always worse. I can’t believe even Hillary is that naive, there’s way more than whet they’re admitting, way more. Gross negligence ata minimum.

It’s not to late to file for impeachment but that would require stones that I don’t think the GOP has.


29 posted on 09/20/2012 5:15:53 PM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: jazusamo

But not because they’re embarrassed. Perhaps because their ratings went down. Otherwise they’d GLADLY promote Obama’s lies.


30 posted on 09/20/2012 5:16:01 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: jazusamo
Yes, He does only thinks of himself and his Marxist agenda.
He's trying to destroy us and the disgusting MSM is helping.

31 posted on 09/20/2012 5:26:33 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: MissMagnolia

Wow so true


32 posted on 09/20/2012 5:28:11 PM PDT by waxer1 ("The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: jazusamo
that's the US response to killing four Americans, one of which was an Ambassador?

Obama and the Hildabeast are going to conduct an internal investigation by a hand picked stooge?

when they kill us now nothing goes boom - it goes to committee

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33 posted on 09/20/2012 5:31:27 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: jazusamo
I think Hillary choosing Pickering to investigate is her way of blaming Obama without her direct involvement.

Pickering seems to have history with the Clintons. She said she would be gone after one term. A Pickering report absolving Hillary and blaming Obama might be a nice payback for accusing Bubba of racism

34 posted on 09/20/2012 5:38:20 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: jazusamo
Hillary is so Vain
35 posted on 09/20/2012 5:45:01 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (Official Romney/GOP-E Platform - We suck less)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
I believe that's a valid point. I've always believed there's no love lost between Hillary and Obama and was surprised she accepted the SS job.

Her choosing Pickering could be payback for him whether he wins or loses the election.

36 posted on 09/20/2012 5:48:57 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
“4. Who were the x-seals who just happened to be there but were not part of Steven's security? Who were they working for? What were they doing in Benghazi on 9/11?”
___________________

According to various press reports one of the SEALs, Glenn “Bub” Doherty, had been interviewed a few months ago by ABC News and indicated he and his team were in Libya to track down and destroy several thousand MANPADS (MAN Portable Air Defense System: Portable surface to air missiles) which had disappeared since the Ghadaffi regieme had fallen. I presume the other former SEAL killed, Tyrone “Rone” Woods, was also part of the team Doherty referred to; although that is not clear.

Link: http://abcnewsradioonline.com/world-news/american-killed-in-libya-was-on-intel-mission-to-track-weapo.html

37 posted on 09/20/2012 5:54:19 PM PDT by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: Ozymandias Ghost

That fits Beck’s hypothesis.


38 posted on 09/20/2012 5:57:41 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: GreenHornet
There is no way possible you can plan an attack against a particular person, on a particular day, at a particular location weeks or even months in advance without some guarantee that person will be there on that day.

The only people that could guarantee he would be there on that day are Zippo and/or Hillary.

39 posted on 09/20/2012 6:05:46 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: jazusamo
“We still don't know how long it took them to put this whole attack together, does it comport with a timeline of when the movie came out ... so we're still in the learning stage,” he said. “I always want to trust but verify.” - Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.), who helped write the Embassy Security Act after the 1998 attacks on the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania,

ME protests: the hardline 'tele-Islamist' who brought anti-Islam film to Muslim world's attention

...but nobody had paid attention to its crude libels against the Prophet Mohammed until Mr Abdullah's show broadcast clips from it last weekend,... - Sept. 8-9

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Egypt intelligence warns (on Sept 4th) of attacks on Israel, US embassies

Congress was warned about Libya last month

Libyan president: 'No doubt' attack 'preplanned' (Magariaf on Face the Nation)

"It was planned, definitely. It was planned by foreigners, by people who entered the country a few months ago. And they were planning this criminal act since their arrival," Magariaf said.

No demonstration before attack on US Consulate, source says

"The intelligence source said no protests were happening before the attackers struck at about 9:35 p.m. local time last Tuesday. The account backs up claims by a purported Libyan security guard who told McClatchy Newspapers late last week that the area was quiet before the attack."

Source: Slain ambassador Stevens said he was on al Qaeda list

Report: Never an Anti-American Protest in Benghazi, Only a Planned Attack (CBS Video Report)


40 posted on 09/20/2012 6:08:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

Good post and info, TE. Thanks!


41 posted on 09/20/2012 6:21:30 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

...it looks like the MSM is through covering for them.

&&&
You forgot your sarcasm tag. This MSM is the OPM, i.e., the Obamugabe Propaganda Ministry, and they will continue to shill and distort for the Soros Administration until they are given different orders.


42 posted on 09/20/2012 6:21:50 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: jazusamo

So the republicans will hold a huge dance and pony show and some low level state dept lackey will get the boot....sort of like fast and furious. F**k all of them....There,I said it.


43 posted on 09/20/2012 6:22:55 PM PDT by oust the louse (Obamacare has morphed into a tax on staying alive.)
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To: jazusamo

You’re welcome. Why do we know more about this situation than the guy who wrote the Embassy Security Act? All I have is DirecTV and an internet connection. And I haven’t used the TV.


44 posted on 09/20/2012 6:26:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Diogenesis

Why......does ...H-i-ll-a-ree Cuh-lin-ton al-ways sah-ou-nd la-eek she .....is talk-ing to ver-ry sssmaaw-ell..chil—duh-ren?

Es-pe-shul-ly when..she is ..spee—king to pee—pull from...oTH-ur cunt-—reeezz?


45 posted on 09/20/2012 6:27:02 PM PDT by cookcounty (Kagan and Sotomayor side with Joe Wilson: -------Obama DID lie!)
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To: Bigg Red
Probably right...I got carried away because The Hill doesn't usually print pieces like this. Be interesting to see if any of this comes out tomorrow in the enemedia but I may be dreaming.
46 posted on 09/20/2012 6:28:46 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

47 posted on 09/20/2012 6:31:01 PM PDT by potlatch (~~And the truth IS what counts, RIGHT ? ~~)
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To: TigersEye
Ha! Good question...We've got cable but I only have Fox on, which is muted most of the time, but the internet and FR is by far the best source.
48 posted on 09/20/2012 6:35:55 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: txrefugee

No kidding. Lugar’s been a disaster. The New Start Treaty is incomprehensible if you are concerned with your country’s security.


49 posted on 09/20/2012 6:37:04 PM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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To: potlatch
Excellent, potlatch! That is one of if not the best of your works. Bravo!
50 posted on 09/20/2012 6:39:53 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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