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New Chinese Stealth Fighter Photos Emerge
Flying Mag ^ | Sep 20, 2012 | Bethany Whitfield

Posted on 09/21/2012 7:09:53 AM PDT by KeyLargo

New Chinese Stealth Fighter Photos Emerge

By Bethany Whitfield / Published: Sep 20, 2012

The new Chinese stealth fighter, believed to be the J-21.

Photos of what appears to be a new Chinese stealth fighter recently surfaced on the Internet, triggering a flood of speculation regarding the jet’s potential capabilities and what implications it holds for the evolution of Chinese military air power.

The single-seat, twin-engine fighter has been designated as the J-21 or the J-31, and is the product of Shenyang Aircraft Corp.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aerospace; chinese; fighterjet; laptor; military; stealth
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China's new stealth fighter

1 posted on 09/21/2012 7:10:00 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

It looks a lot like the F-22 Raptor


2 posted on 09/21/2012 7:12:17 AM PDT by jag.drafting
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To: KeyLargo
How does that stack up against ours...

3 posted on 09/21/2012 7:13:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: KeyLargo

What are the wheels for if it has so many legs?


4 posted on 09/21/2012 7:13:29 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Romney was right about the Olympics, but neither the Brits or the Dems will admit it.)
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To: jag.drafting
It looks a lot like the F-22 Raptor

China: "DOES NOT!!!"
5 posted on 09/21/2012 7:14:00 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: KeyLargo
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6 posted on 09/21/2012 7:14:52 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: jag.drafting

Yeah well, we probably used a lot of their people to design it.


7 posted on 09/21/2012 7:15:01 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: SeekAndFind

How does that stack up against ours... ................................... Like ours, it probably has many components made in China??


8 posted on 09/21/2012 7:15:12 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Who we elect is not as important as who they bring in with them.)
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To: jag.drafting

Looks longer than Raptor. Perhaps for extended range and load; BOMB DELIVERER.


9 posted on 09/21/2012 7:15:34 AM PDT by Tugo (Romney & Ryan)
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To: jag.drafting

Looks longer than Raptor. Perhaps for extended range and load; BOMB DELIVERER.


10 posted on 09/21/2012 7:15:41 AM PDT by Tugo (Romney & Ryan)
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To: Michael.SF.
What are the wheels for if it has so many legs?

This is the Flintstones version.
11 posted on 09/21/2012 7:15:41 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: jag.drafting

Looks longer than Raptor. Perhaps for extended range and load; BOMB DELIVERER.


12 posted on 09/21/2012 7:15:53 AM PDT by Tugo (Romney & Ryan)
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To: KeyLargo

The Chinese version has underpowered engines. Their prime target for this jet is an AWACS aircraft not a dogfight.


13 posted on 09/21/2012 7:16:28 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: KeyLargo

Are they making their own engines yet?


14 posted on 09/21/2012 7:16:34 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: ZX12R

LOL


15 posted on 09/21/2012 7:18:50 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Ambassador Stevens is dead and the Chevy Volt is alive!)
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To: jag.drafting
They copy steal everything they never invent anything, except fireworks and ravioli.
16 posted on 09/21/2012 7:19:26 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: jag.drafting

It sure does.

Now we know where Hussein got the $35,000,000 with which to buy his new mansion in Hawaii.


17 posted on 09/21/2012 7:19:31 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: KeyLargo

That’s not bowing.

That’s trolling for bathhouse buddies. It’s code for “I’ll catch if you pitch.”


18 posted on 09/21/2012 7:19:54 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: KeyLargo

China now makes more than any other country.

Their exports improve every day, because we are sending our export factories there.

Chinese unemployment is very low.

We need to bring back American manufacturing. Now.


19 posted on 09/21/2012 7:19:59 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: Army Air Corps

pong


20 posted on 09/21/2012 7:22:03 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

We cant, its illegal.


21 posted on 09/21/2012 7:22:30 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: jag.drafting

The shape seems identical but the jet exhausts do not appear to be cowled or possible to vector for manoeuvrability. But it does look as much a knock off as the Gucci bags and Rolex watches you can buy in Shanghai street markets.


22 posted on 09/21/2012 7:26:19 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: SeekAndFind

No vectored thrust on those big engines, gear doors are not angled to deflect radar, horizontal stabilizers not cut to deflect either. Most likely designed to fly in low and fast and then turn and burn with the engines. Those big engines would make REALLY big targets, considering that most modern heat seekers go after the heat created by friction on the leading edges of the aircraft.

I am sure there are other disadvantages that the aircraft would exhibit against the 22, might be a tougher match for 15’s and 16’s that Japan has in the inventory.

I’m just sayin’ . . .


23 posted on 09/21/2012 7:27:13 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (For God and country - Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo!)
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To: KeyLargo

One of the most highly guarded secrets of the craft is that it is powered by renewable, green energy. Specifically, it runs by burning bales of marijuana, as can be seen looking into the exhaust pipes.


24 posted on 09/21/2012 7:33:44 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: KeyLargo

How does it even fly with two sleeping bags stuffed in the exhaust ports?


25 posted on 09/21/2012 7:35:18 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: KeyLargo

I wonder how this one related to the J-20? I’d think it might be the “low” end of a high-low mix ( like the F-16 is to the F-15 and the F-35 is to the F-22) but it looks pretty similar to the F-22.

Maybe the ChiComs are going for two “mid” optimized designs with the J-20 being an interceptor/interdiction platform (like the F-111 was supposed to be) and this J-21 being optimized for ACM.


26 posted on 09/21/2012 7:35:41 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: SeekAndFind; Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; ...
AVIATION PING
27 posted on 09/21/2012 7:39:06 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
We need to bring back American manufacturing. Now.

Not going to happen until you change the environment for and the perception of business in this country. Take a look at Chile. They went from a repressive regime under Allende to the fastest growing economy in the world, primarily because they have: 1) the lowest corporate tax rate in the world, 2) the lowest personal tax rates in the world, and 3) the gov't spends the lowest proportion of GNP in the world (less than 6% compared to almost 25% in the US). The solutions are well known. The problem is that those a$$holes in Washington won't give up the power that comes with giving away your money.

28 posted on 09/21/2012 7:40:47 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Obama cancelled the F-22 project. No more F-22s will be built.

The Dangers of America in Retreat
Submitted by may on September 15, 2012 - 1:01am

“Obama cancelled our F-22 production so the United States and our allies would not have a vastly superior air warfare capability over Russia and China. The limited number of F-22s we have remain the tip of the spear of any new major military attack the United States must undertake. The F-22 flies two miles higher and 400 miles per hour faster than our F-35. The F-22 is designed to clear the aircraft and ground-to-air defenses of our enemies.”

http://lubbockonline.com/interact/blog-post/may/2012-09-15/dangers-america-retreat#.UFx9D66OxnE


29 posted on 09/21/2012 7:47:35 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Well, it’s an attractive aircraft.

More than I can say for most of what gets put out by their auto industry.


30 posted on 09/21/2012 7:48:06 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: KeyLargo

There are many mainland chinese nationals in our university grad schools, industrial research labs and probably our national labs. They know what we know. The US pays for the research and the chinese get the info for nothing.


31 posted on 09/21/2012 7:57:13 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (We won't stand for biased umps fixing a ball game but we allow a biased media to fix elections.)
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To: KeyLargo

How Now Kow Tow?

Idjit.


32 posted on 09/21/2012 8:03:09 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: KeyLargo

POS, marxist, haet-America filth!


33 posted on 09/21/2012 8:03:40 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Libs, dems, unions, leftist scum & murderous muzzies - are like bacteria: attack, attack, attack!)
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To: KeyLargo

POS, marxist, hate-America filth!


34 posted on 09/21/2012 8:03:57 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Libs, dems, unions, leftist scum & murderous muzzies - are like bacteria: attack, attack, attack!)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

You missed the canopy, more YF-23-ish but probably without all the don’t ask what I do for a living anti-signature stuff that we will never know about.....


35 posted on 09/21/2012 8:11:47 AM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
Their is a professor here in Michigan on a screed and no one listens to him...

80& of the Naval Architecture Students at the Univ of Michigan are Chinese kids... Why? What kind of vessels will they be designing?

36 posted on 09/21/2012 8:13:58 AM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: SeekAndFind
"How does that stack up against ours..."

It IS ours. Where do you think they got the technology? :-(

37 posted on 09/21/2012 8:14:34 AM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: nuconvert

I saw a photo of this the other day. Meanwhile, Bathhose barry wants to slash our defense capabilities so that we can have more money for welfare.


38 posted on 09/21/2012 8:14:43 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Ping.


39 posted on 09/21/2012 8:17:06 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: KeyLargo
Don't get carried away. The Il-38 "May" was supposed to be Russia's copy of the P-3 Orion. Instead, the Il-38 is a piece of crap.


40 posted on 09/21/2012 8:34:06 AM PDT by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: KeyLargo

obastard cancelled our Raptor and gave the chi-coms the design files. The jigs were not broken up but transported to china.

As someone said, he had to pay for that $35,000,000 retirement cottage with something. He and moochie won’t miss a lick when it comes to lifestyle.


41 posted on 09/21/2012 8:50:32 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average, they voted for oblabla.s)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
. . . Chinese unemployment is very low . . .

China ranks about 70th in unemployement rate. I would hardly call that very low. The estimated rate for 2011 was at 6.5%.
Source:

CIA World Factbook

. . . China now makes more than any other country . . .

And in GDP purchasing power parity they rank #3.

CIA World Factbook


42 posted on 09/21/2012 9:00:29 AM PDT by Kegger
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To: KeyLargo

effa ah twenty-two


43 posted on 09/21/2012 9:01:35 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average, they voted for oblabla.s)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
The design on the tail looks similar to Pratt and Whitney’s logo.
44 posted on 09/21/2012 9:13:35 AM PDT by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: boomop1

Unless we allow them to copy our designs, our military industrial complex would shrink to nothing.Most of our foreign aid must be used to buy weaponry from US suppliers. We absolutely need a war going on somewhere if we expect to bring our economy back up.


45 posted on 09/21/2012 9:19:59 AM PDT by B4Ranch (There's Two Choices... Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered .)
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To: Michael.SF.

“What are the wheels for if it has so many legs?”

I was thinking, “that thing should really move down the runway with that many legs” Good laugh for the day.


46 posted on 09/21/2012 9:53:44 AM PDT by depenzz (As long as there are tests, there will be prayer in public schools.)
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To: KeyLargo

Your export dollars at work.

Globalism is GREAT isn’t it?


47 posted on 09/21/2012 10:11:17 AM PDT by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: KeyLargo

Well if there’s a photo of it, it’s not very stealth, is it? ;)


48 posted on 09/21/2012 10:17:22 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: pabianice
Don't get carried away. The Il-38 "May" was supposed to be Russia's copy of the P-3 Orion. Instead, the Il-38 is a piece of crap.

Yeah, but the Chinese can get away with shooting the designer of the "piece of crap" and look at his second-in-command and simply say "try again".

49 posted on 09/21/2012 10:41:41 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: KeyLargo

Looks like they’ve got a red sofa hung on the side. That must be the new General Tso’s Chicken Missile.


50 posted on 09/21/2012 10:49:55 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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