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Ryan at the AARP (Not convincing AARP does not mean not convincing Seniors)
National Review ^ | 09/22/2012 | Yuval Levin

Posted on 09/22/2012 7:53:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Be sure to read Paul Ryan's speech to the AARP's national convention today --- a clear and forthright elucidation of the case for saving Medicare and the federal budget through market-based reforms and against doubling down on failed central planning and price controls through Obamacare.
 
As he surely knew he would be, Ryan was met with some opposition (though also some support) in the audience, and boos could be heard at various points --- particularly during his criticisms of Obamacare. That's hardly surprising. The AARP sometimes presents itself as a kind of membership organization consisting of senior citizens, but it is basically a huge financial-services company with an enormous stake in the current design of the Medicare system (it makes about half a billion dollars in revenue each year endorsing and selling Medicare supplemental, Medicare Advantage, Medicare prescription drug, and long-term-care-insurance policies). It profits in particular from higher-premium Medicare supplemental coverage (because it receives a royalty fee on every dollar seniors spend on premiums for AARP-endorsed products), and so would be a major loser in a premium-support reform. The organization has therefore worked closely with Democrats to oppose such a reform, and in return has also been helpful to them in the broader health-care debate — lobbying in favor of Obamacare, for instance, despite the fact that it made major cuts in Medicare and despite the very evident opposition of AARP members. (This recent letter to the organization’s leadership from Republican members of the House lays out some of the staggering details of AARP’s cooperation with the White House on that front.)

But as Ryan went into detail and laid out the disaster that Obamacare spells for seniors and for the nation, the boos grew fewer and further between. It sometimes makes sense to make your case before a hostile audience. Ryan is an exceptionally capable advocate on this front — laying out in clear detail both the disastrous condition of our entitlement programs and the path to saving them and averting fiscal disaster. Mitt Romney has done a fine job of this too, when he has taken up the issue, and together they have gone a long way toward answering the Democrats’ usual Mediscare tactics. The Democrats haven’t stopped employing those tactics of course, as President Obama’s taped remarks to the AARP clearly show, but the Romney-Ryan counteroffensive  has done a great deal to narrow the public-opinion gap on Medicare. They won’t win over the AARP, but they are winning seniors, and they can win even more of them.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aarp; obamacare; paulryan

1 posted on 09/22/2012 7:53:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The AARP is owned by the Democrat Party just like the MSM.


2 posted on 09/22/2012 7:57:52 AM PDT by FreedBird
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To: SeekAndFind

What Ryan should have mentioned (I didn’t read the transcript) is the fact that AARP stands to profit from Commiecare. Of course relying on the mainlining socialist media to inject that into their report is expecting too much . But what he can do now ,and should, is bring that up if he gets a follow up by a reporter. Then blast it out in a PR.


3 posted on 09/22/2012 8:01:30 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (The best way to punish a - country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great p/p)
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To: SeekAndFind
"AARP" "AARP" "AARP"...

Nothing but a bunch of trained seals.

4 posted on 09/22/2012 8:03:18 AM PDT by JPG (Make it happen)
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To: SeekAndFind

The audience was probably stacked with Democrats.


5 posted on 09/22/2012 8:05:32 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: FreedBird

Some years ago, a Freeper said he always returned AARP’s postage-paid envelopes to them - stuffed with anything that would fit so as to cost them as much as possible. I adopted his policy and have done the same with dozens of them ever since...


6 posted on 09/22/2012 8:06:57 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: SeekAndFind

AARP is a democrat apparatchik. They have a symbiotic relationship with the government and the side that they favor is the democrat, they both feed out of the same trough and off each other... they are slime...


7 posted on 09/22/2012 8:07:57 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: SeekAndFind

why would he ever speak at this Democrat-owned front group? I guess for the same reason Romney is going on The View again...incompetence.


8 posted on 09/22/2012 8:08:31 AM PDT by montag813
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To: FreedBird

Any 55 yr old that is fooled by the AARP is already senile.

There are other options for seniors these days.


9 posted on 09/22/2012 8:09:59 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
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To: SeekAndFind
But as Ryan went into detail and laid out the disaster that Obamacare spells for seniors and for the nation, the boos grew fewer and further between

Yep, Ryan did a marvelous job.

10 posted on 09/22/2012 8:12:52 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: montag813

You don’t win elections preaching to the choir.


11 posted on 09/22/2012 8:13:31 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: SeekAndFind

No conservative should EVER speak to the AARP. They are a buncha gimme gimme olds. Socialists.


12 posted on 09/22/2012 8:17:28 AM PDT by gotribe (WTF?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Everything I get from AARP goes into the shredder.

They have been sending me their garbage since I was 55. I have never joined them, so I don’t know why they continue to pollute my mailbox with their trash.


13 posted on 09/22/2012 8:21:08 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: SeekAndFind
AARP is Planned Parenthood for seniors. They want you to think they are helping, when actually they are helping the other side.
14 posted on 09/22/2012 8:37:03 AM PDT by grame (May you know more of the love of God Almighty this day!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Retires with a brain realize the AARP sucks


15 posted on 09/22/2012 8:39:01 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: SeekAndFind

AARP’s support for Obozocare equals leading their own lambs to slaughter.


16 posted on 09/22/2012 8:46:04 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: SeekAndFind

Their behavior was very juvenile for people of any age...let alone senior citizens.

Obama said he would not enact policies that make insurance companies more profitable, all the while AARP is very much in the insurance business (just watch TV for a little while and you will be flooded with AARP insurance commercials) and stands to make a bundle off of Obamacare. That of course is not going to be widely reported by the partisan press.


17 posted on 09/22/2012 8:46:56 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: trebb

Great Idea! I am decades from their target audience.
I get stuff from them about twice a week. I will send them some Eastwooding flyers and other anti socialist messages.

See how long they take to remove me from their mailing list.

This can work with any postage-paid junk mail. :)


18 posted on 09/22/2012 8:47:15 AM PDT by Morris70
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To: Westbrook

If you are interested in that kind of organization...as far as the discounts, etc. there is an alternative organization called Generation America that is conservative.


19 posted on 09/22/2012 8:52:02 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: trebb

That might have been me. I’ve often encouraged people to express their objections in that more direct manner. I return one envelope with a polite request to take me off their list. If I get more I return them with a metal plate (electrical knock-out plate) that zooms the postage up to 3-4 dollars apiece.

Because so much of their promotion systems are automated AARP has never caught on and we continue to play the game - with me costing them about $15 a month ;-)


20 posted on 09/22/2012 8:52:36 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am nine years away from qualifying for AARP membership. When the time comes, they won’t get a red penny from me ! P*ss on them.....


21 posted on 09/22/2012 8:56:13 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: SeekAndFind

My mother, who is 85, quit the AARP because of their liberal bias. Apparently many others have as well.

Don’t accept the media propaganda that AARP represents the population of seniors in this country. ALL they represent is RADICAL LEFTIST seniors.


22 posted on 09/22/2012 9:59:25 AM PDT by VRWCRick
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To: SeekAndFind

AARP does not care if they lose all Conservative members. They do not care if they become bankrupt. Their leadership has been taken over by Democrat hacks and their number one goal is the advancement of Socialism. Everyone I know has dropped out when they completely blew them off on Obama Care. I have no idea how they can afford to do what they are doing anymore? They must be exhausting all of their resources for this one final push.


23 posted on 09/22/2012 10:08:21 AM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here in Ohio the AARP & Planed Parent (Baby butchers in the)Hood are driving me nuts with their blanketing our airways with their commercials chalked full of hateful lies against Romney & Ryan!

No wonder they aren’t poling better than they are with AARP scaring the crap outta seniors & Planed Parent (Baby butchers in the) Hood scaring women that they wont get their health care needs taken care of if they vote for Romney/Ryan!

And the worst part? Planed Parent (Baby butchers in the) Hood, is getting tax payer money!! They shouldn’t be able to make commercials against either candidate while getting tax payer money! IMHO


24 posted on 09/22/2012 1:27:58 PM PDT by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: trebb
returned AARP’s postage-paid envelopes to them - stuffed with anything that would fit so as to cost them as much as possible.

"Fender washers" are extra large diameter and fairly heavy, five or six would fit a #10 business envelope. That would be if you stuck to putting things in the envelope, I've heard that you can glue the envelope to a brick and the USPS will take it to the printed address.

Regards,
GtG

25 posted on 09/22/2012 7:33:13 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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