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Mitt Romney: How to Lose the Most Important Election of our Time by not Really Trying
GrasstopsUSA.com ^ | September 21, 2012 | Don Feder

Posted on 09/22/2012 8:28:48 AM PDT by Stepan12

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To: SecAmndmt
can we just make a list please, for posterity, on those who are openly voting the dictator back in....and that means NOT voting for Romney......please make a list...so we can remember and look back fondly on the days when we had a chance in this country and there were some that threw it up in our faces....

but more likely, these type of fake conservative purists will be the first ones to condemn bammey when he takes over our 401's, requires Catholics to observe sharia, and orders all 18 yros to become brown shirts....

words fail me at this ignorance and this arrogance, let alone the evil these people are committing....

nuclear war...here we come...

151 posted on 09/23/2012 12:21:43 PM PDT by cherry
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To: reasonisfaith
Is that another way of asking me if I want to help Obama win by helping to discourage Romney voters?

What's this "discourage" crap?

I'm going to the polls 30 minutes before they open. My signs are up, my money is in. I tell everybody who will listen to vote for Romney. I CANNOT be discouraged.

However...

There were excellent reasons not to nominate Romney, reasons that were discussed to death here for months, reasons that 65% of GOP primary voters agreed with. It must never, NEVER happen again that a plurality of primary votes is sufficient to be nominated. That is plain crazy.

If Romney loses, I will be here on November 7 to say, "I told you so". If I were a betting man, I would bet every nickel I have on Obama's reelection.

But discouraged? Like, discouraged so I don't vote?

Not a chance.

152 posted on 09/23/2012 12:24:50 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: reasonisfaith
Is that another way of asking me if I want to help Obama win by helping to discourage Romney voters?

What's this "discourage" crap?

I'm going to the polls 30 minutes before they open. My signs are up, my money is in. I tell everybody who will listen to vote for Romney. I CANNOT be discouraged.

However...

There were excellent reasons not to nominate Romney, reasons that were discussed to death here for months, reasons that 65% of GOP primary voters agreed with. It must never, NEVER happen again that a plurality of primary votes is sufficient to be nominated. That is plain crazy.

If Romney loses, I will be here on November 7 to say, "I told you so". If I were a betting man, I would bet every nickel I have on Obama's reelection.

But discouraged? Like, discouraged so I don't vote?

Not a chance.

153 posted on 09/23/2012 12:24:50 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: nicmarlo

And a mind reader to boot, you get a little prize for the attempt to deflect, keep trying I’m sure by the end of the day you’ll get another big prize.


154 posted on 09/23/2012 12:29:25 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw
You're the one who used the word "Nazi" and attributed it to me.

You're the one who 'read minds' and indicated that ONLY members of the Nazi party voted for Hitler.

I logically disagreed and pointed out the error in your thinking. Now you're lying and stating I'm deflecting rather than admitting you were wrong with what you said. LOL

155 posted on 09/23/2012 12:34:31 PM PDT by nicmarlo (I'll Take the Mormon Over the MORON)
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To: cherry

Really? Fake conservatives, that is a hoot.
And keeping a list, my goodness how totally totalitarian of you.
I have news for you it was middle of the road conservatives who fell for the line “only Romney can win this”, and we are stuck with a terrible candidate, beyond terrible.
And the people who are on full board supporting Romney, are the ones falling apart about Romney’s incompetence and flip flops by the day.
I agree with you the arrogance of Romney supporters is breathtaking, sorta like Romney himself..


156 posted on 09/23/2012 12:36:02 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: nicmarlo

logical disagreed - folmao
I will gladly admit I am wrong, if and when that occurs.


157 posted on 09/23/2012 12:37:31 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Stepan12

Never heard of him, but whoever he is, he’s not helpful. Tell him to go away until after we get rid of Obama.


158 posted on 09/23/2012 12:42:46 PM PDT by adc
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To: svcw; mkjessup
I have news for you it was middle of the road conservatives who fell for the line “only Romney can win this”, and we are stuck with a terrible candidate, beyond terrible. And the people who are on full board supporting Romney, are the ones falling apart about Romney’s incompetence and flip flops by the day. I agree with you the arrogance of Romney supporters the ABR faction is breathtaking...

Yes, you're wrong. I NEVER USED THE WORD "NAZI" to describe you or your ilk. YOU DID.

What I stated: YOU'D BE THE TYPE TO ELECT A HITLER because you're 'too pure and lily white' to pull the lever for the only opponent who'd have been able to beat him. AND THAT'S A FACT. Had more people voted for Hitler's opponent (Paul von Hindenburg, Independent), perhaps there wouldn't have been a second run off election because the von Hindenburg would have captured the majority of the vote, despite the 'voter fraud' that occurred. Maybe the people who voted for some third or fourth party were also hoping to have their 'lily white and purist' candidate.

If this were the primaries, I'd still be backing Newt, just as I was during that time.

But it isn't. It's over.

Now the focus is on booting an evil Marxist out of the White House by getting behind the only person who will have ANY chance of doing that, unfortunately, it's a person I didn't want to be left standing, but I'm more interested in the future of this country than worrying about voting for a 'lily white conservative'.

You're not, and you're part of the problem. As my friend mkjessup recently aptly stated (in part):

...I put my own personal preferences aside and have chosen to act in the best interest of America, which means that in order to get rid of that filthy Communist in the White House, the only possible way of accomplishing that is to pull the lever for Romney & Ryan, do you know of another way? If so, by all means enlighten us. You may begin at any time.

Jokers like you are quick to sling around that 'MittBot' label when even a casual review of my posting history will show that up until last month, I took a back seat to NOBODY in opposing Romney as the GOP nominee.

What you fail to understand is that the removal of 0bama is the highest priority in this election. And if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem, so you can knock off that mewling about "sanity and reality returning to the conservative movement" because if 0bama is returned to office to complete the task of destroying what is left of this Republic, there isn't going to BE any 'movements', conservative or otherwise and that is because so-called 'conservatives' like you decided to remain lily white and 'pure' and voted for 0bama by default by refusing to vote for the only political ticket with a chance of defeating that lying Kenyan scumbag.
So, do you know of any other way to get rid of that filthy Communist in the White House besides pulling the lever for Romney & Ryan? If so, by all means enlighten us.

You may begin at any time.


159 posted on 09/23/2012 1:02:48 PM PDT by nicmarlo (I'll Take the Mormon Over the MORON)
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To: cherry

You can add me to your list, I’m there proudly.


160 posted on 09/23/2012 1:48:58 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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To: nicmarlo
Ok, you are still harping on that when the rest of us have moved on to something more productive.

I was very clear, let me state it again.

When and if I am ever wrong, I will tell you, until then no matter how many words you use, no matter how many capitol letters you use, no matter how many fancy colors you use - does not make me wrong.

One more time: if and when I am ever wrong I will let you know.

161 posted on 09/23/2012 2:25:40 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw
Ok. Let me restate: You are CLEARLY wrong. YOU USED THE WORD NAZI. I did not. You attributed the word "Nazi" to me, which makes YOU not only wrong but a liar, as well.

Getting back to my PRODUCTIVE question, which you are conveniently avoiding in your attempt to deflect, once again:

So, do you know of any other way to get rid of that filthy Communist in the White House besides pulling the lever for Romney & Ryan? If so, by all means enlighten us.

You may begin at any time.


162 posted on 09/23/2012 2:31:36 PM PDT by nicmarlo (I'll Take the Mormon Over the MORON)
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To: nicmarlo
Move along, kiddo, I am going to the beach.....nothing to see here.

psst Are you just upset that you didn't get the big big prize, maybe next time.

163 posted on 09/23/2012 2:38:07 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: nicmarlo

Ok, what a hoot.
I should have looked up your profile page before the first reply - wait for it wait for it ...I WAS WRONG NOT TO DO SO!!!!........good grief man, you live in California just like I do......your vote for Romney means nothing just as my possible non vote means nothing, obama has already won this state.
Well, on to the beach - BBQs await.


164 posted on 09/23/2012 2:42:08 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw
Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

You have nothing intelligent to say, cannot admit that you've lied, intentionally attribute your own words to me, have no intelligent discourse or proposals to state, have no words of wisdom, cannot answer a worthwhile question. All you do is create discord, strife, and post attacks against conservatives in FR. That you would funnel that energy to the real enemy, Obama and his communist cronies, perhaps you'd be doing this country a favor. But you're just a fool and a useful idiot for Obama.

165 posted on 09/23/2012 2:45:04 PM PDT by nicmarlo (I'll Take the Mormon Over the MORON)
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To: svcw
good grief man, you live in California just like I do..

Uh, no, I don't live in California. Wow. Another lie.

166 posted on 09/23/2012 2:46:11 PM PDT by nicmarlo (I'll Take the Mormon Over the MORON)
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To: nicmarlo
Hum? Well, I am wrong about that.

See told ya, when I am wrong I will tell you.

167 posted on 09/23/2012 2:52:47 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

I don’t need you to admit when you’re wrong to know you are.

Get it?


168 posted on 09/23/2012 2:54:11 PM PDT by nicmarlo (I'll Take the Mormon Over the MORON)
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To: nicmarlo

rotflmao........


169 posted on 09/23/2012 2:54:49 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

The beach is waiting for you. Maybe while there, you can think of some better comebacks.

LOL


170 posted on 09/23/2012 3:07:09 PM PDT by nicmarlo (I'll Take the Mormon Over the MORON)
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To: nicmarlo

Well, lookie here I did just what you suggested.
You are correct you did not call people who are not supporting Romney nazi, I was wrong about that........you compared them to hitler sympathizers.
Sorry, I didn’t point that out before.
ta ta


171 posted on 09/23/2012 6:27:44 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

And you’re still a liar.


172 posted on 09/23/2012 6:33:31 PM PDT by nicmarlo (I'll Take the Mormon Over the MORON)
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To: nicmarlo

and you are still a denier, so we are even - ta ta.


173 posted on 09/23/2012 6:36:04 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

Anytime someone resorts to telling lies in order to ‘win’ their argument, they’ve lost.

You’re not only a lying loser, you’re pathetic.


174 posted on 09/23/2012 6:39:31 PM PDT by nicmarlo (I'll Take the Mormon Over the MORON)
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To: nicmarlo

My last reply to you, because frankly I am bored with this, really no longer a challenge.
So far you have said I am a lying loser, pathetic, compared to a hitler sympathizer, imbecilic, illogical, a person of low standards.........ok here’s what I’ll do, lets add bitch.....which I will agree to (the bitch part).
It’s really ok, I understand you may not have anything else in your life than to keep replying.
So you may send me as many replies as you want, I on the other hand have a life separate from you, like defeating liberalism or and watching reruns of really bad comedy shows.
Good bye, live a happy life.....whatever makes you happy, we on the other hand are done.


175 posted on 09/23/2012 6:53:45 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw
Let me restate: You are CLEARLY wrong. YOU USED THE WORD NAZI. I did not. You claimed that I "compared you to a hitler sympathizer." I did not. YOU are not only wrong but are a liar.

Your actions are not 'defeating liberalism.' You are, by default, supporting liberalism and are engaged in GUTTER POLITICS. Telling lies, supporting liberalism, and engaging in gutter politics ARE low standards. Call yourself whatever profane names you choose. If it fits, so be it.

You REFUSE to answer my PRODUCTIVE question, repeatedly asked, by deflecting with repeated nonsense because you are incapable of answering it truthfully:

So, do you know of any other way to get rid of that filthy Communist in the White House besides pulling the lever for Romney & Ryan? If so, by all means enlighten us.

You may begin at any time.

**crickets**

176 posted on 09/23/2012 7:01:44 PM PDT by nicmarlo (I'll Take the Mormon Over the MORON)
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To: nicmarlo; svcw

I am sorry but this is really funny.
svcw is not going to say you didn’t call people who do not support Romney Nazi.
They did say you compared (changed that to) them to Hitler sympathizers.
I have been following this thread the whole time, and laughing out loud.
I would agree with “Hitler sympathizers”.
Sorry, nicmario if I were you I’d give it up, svcw appears to be unwilling because they have a point, to coincide to your demands, which, the demands that is, are ridiculous.
If you really find them that irritating, stop posting to them, simple really.
Well, if you don’t stop posting I will continue to laugh.


177 posted on 09/23/2012 7:43:58 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: cherry

Please add my name to the list, thanks.


178 posted on 09/23/2012 7:45:22 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: roylene; svcw

I’m glad you think that lying is funny. I don’t. It’s part of the gutter politics.

So is claiming I used the word “Nazi” or comparing anyone to “Hitler sympathizers.”

If what I stated has gone over both your heads, that’s not my problem, but your. However, it doesn’t give you the right to lie about what I actually stated.

Please laugh yourself silly. Perhaps it’ll help loosen something up there so you can actually use your brain for something other than posting support for lies.


179 posted on 09/23/2012 7:49:39 PM PDT by nicmarlo (I'll Take the Mormon Over the MORON)
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To: roylene; cherry

No surprise that a supporter of lies and liars are proud to be on a list for those giving aid, comfort and assistance TO 0bama and the re-election of a Marxist.


180 posted on 09/23/2012 8:10:36 PM PDT by nicmarlo (I'll Take the Mormon Over the MORON)
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To: cherry

Make sure I am at the top of the list - k?


181 posted on 09/23/2012 8:23:30 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Mygirlsmom
What frustrates me, is during the primaries, Romney was so incredibly aggressive about eliminating his opponents and people were drawn into that thinking - wow, what a fighter...he will trounce Obama. And the meme spread that he was the only one with "the stuff" to win.

That was during the debates. The debates with obama have not begun.

182 posted on 09/23/2012 8:28:49 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes

Not just debates, but tons of ads....where are the ads?


183 posted on 09/23/2012 8:33:28 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (At 3 am on 9-11 as our embassy in Libya was under attack, the chair was empty but the bed was full)
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To: cherry

What a bizarre response you sent me!

I am neither openly nor secretly voting for Obama.
I am neither openly nor secretly voting for Romney.
I am neither openly nor secretly voting for any socialist, nor even a pro-abort libertarian. Got it?

It is highly revealing that what passes for modern “conservatism” these days can claim followers (such as yourself) who think we should be making “lists” of people who vote their principles.

Re: your third paragraph, God punished the nation of Israel (and later, Judah also) for the refusal of the people and leaders to turn away from evil (see 1&2 Samuel, and 1&2 Kings) and for their refusal to follow His commandments. Would it surprise you to learn that God has a purity test for leaders?


184 posted on 09/23/2012 9:38:27 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: txrefugee

Look for the likelyhood of a second American revolution to happen and it will.


185 posted on 09/24/2012 2:34:59 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: cherry

Revolt will be very likely.


186 posted on 09/24/2012 2:36:14 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Stepan12

I would not panic because MOST of those who supported Obama will simply STAY HOME on ELECTION and the GOOD NEWS is that ROMNEY WILL WIN.

I am CONFIDENT of it.


187 posted on 09/24/2012 2:40:07 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

Someone asked me the other day if I thought there would be riots after the election and have been thinking about that.
I beleive you are correct.
If Romney wins, there will be riots.
If obama wins there will be an American Revolution 2.0


188 posted on 09/24/2012 2:49:42 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: MNJohnnie
A typical shoot your own side in the back instead of using your forum to attack the Leftist Media machine from another faux conservative media clown

So if you see your kid about to drive his new car off a cliff do you tell him, good job, son, keep up the good work, you're doing great, or do you tell him he's doing something wrong, now stop and change course before you drive off the cliff? There's a reason the truth is considered a virtue by most respectable codes of moral conduct.

189 posted on 09/24/2012 2:53:19 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: Bayard
Any possible change from the Romney camp is not going to come about from the words of Don Fader.

Well, then, whatever Fader says certainly can't win Romney the election either. So why not let the man have his opinion and move on instead of letting it bother you?

190 posted on 09/24/2012 2:55:16 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: txrefugee
The conservative pundits are scared spitless because their conservative books, news columns, and radio shows have made them rich. They will be severely punished by Obama in his second term. And who do they blame? Romney, the same candidate they were touting as the “only viable candidate who can win” during the primaries.

I think they touted Romney knowing he would lose because business is better for them with the opposition in power. Hasn't Fox News and Drudge been openly saying their ratings/hits have been going up during the Obama administration? They can sell being the "alternative" to the mainstream better than being a cheerleader for the president.

191 posted on 09/24/2012 2:58:22 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: svcw; Mr. Jeeves
There's always been a segment of Romney backers who seem to live by denying the reality of Romney's record, as if they've never heard anything about it. They project their own vision of who they "think" Romney is with absolutely no basis in fact to support it.


192 posted on 09/24/2012 3:03:45 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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