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Two Wisconsin boys,13 charged with brutal hatchet slaying of great-grandmother
http://www.nydailynews.com/ ^

Posted on 09/22/2012 3:44:31 PM PDT by jakerobins

Two 13-year-old Wisconsin boys have been charged with first degree murder for the brutal slaying of one boy's great-grandmother, whom they allegedly bludgeoned with a hammer and hatchet before robbing her spare change and going out for pizza.

Both boys, Antonio D. Barbeau and Nathan J. Paape, were charged Friday as adults in the death of Barbeau’s great-grandmother, 78-year-old Barbara J. Olson, prosecutors said.

In a crime that was both gruesome and callous, the boys are accused of going to Olson’s Sheboygan, Wis., home on Sept. 17 “to get some money,” the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: barbeau; killerkids; murder; paape; sheboygan; sourcetitlenoturl
God help this country. These Immoral kids need to be tried as adults and not put in a treatment center until they are 18.
1 posted on 09/22/2012 3:44:36 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: jakerobins; GeronL

I think their parents are partly to blame. What kind of people raises kids like this?


2 posted on 09/22/2012 3:49:06 PM PDT by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: jakerobins

There’s got to be some serious mental retardation issues at work here. There’s no way a 13-year-old with a normal IQ and reasoning powers would even *think* they could get away with something like that.


3 posted on 09/22/2012 4:00:56 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: jakerobins

The picture shows that neither punk has a forehead ... what’s that tell you??


4 posted on 09/22/2012 4:04:25 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: Ken522
They look like feral children. The "wild boy of Aveyron" comes to mind. Obviously raised by animals.
5 posted on 09/22/2012 4:07:45 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: jakerobins
Looks like the world has lost a couple of potential nuclear physicists.

Their hair was perfect.

6 posted on 09/22/2012 4:08:15 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: jakerobins

7 posted on 09/22/2012 4:08:40 PM PDT by Edward Teach
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To: jakerobins

Did anyone ever tell them it is wrong to kill?


8 posted on 09/22/2012 4:09:29 PM PDT by donna (Chick-news: They report on what they love (Obama and movie stars and themselves).)
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To: facedown
Given the pics, it's safe to say they were possessed by Justin Bieber.
9 posted on 09/22/2012 4:11:55 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: hinckley buzzard

To me, they looked like spoiled suburban brats. The long bangs and the pouty mouths give them away.


10 posted on 09/22/2012 4:11:58 PM PDT by livius
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To: facedown

Justin Bieber is such an improbable pied piper for Satan, isn’t he?


11 posted on 09/22/2012 4:12:07 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: jakerobins

0bama’s boys—I want it and I want it now mentality—ME, ME, ME!


12 posted on 09/22/2012 4:14:54 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
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To: facedown

Human externally, lizard consciousness inside. No offense mean to actual lizards.


13 posted on 09/22/2012 4:15:10 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Yep, 0bama’s white side boys.


14 posted on 09/22/2012 4:16:03 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
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To: Morgana

Pretty obvious. No morals, me. me, me. Nanny state brats.


15 posted on 09/22/2012 4:17:50 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
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To: facedown
I thought I remembered seeing some people with hair like that ... and I just found them:


16 posted on 09/22/2012 4:20:59 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: jakerobins

Sounds like no dads involved. Great-grandmother only 78?

My last great-grandmother died in 1965 and she was 87.

I’m only 12. ;)


17 posted on 09/22/2012 4:23:11 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: jakerobins

Lizzie Borden took an axe
Gave her mother forty whacks
When she saw what she had done
She gave her pappy forty-one.


18 posted on 09/22/2012 4:27:05 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: livius

“...long bangs and the pouty mouths...”

They’ll be big hits in prison...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwS7gCoWnzo


19 posted on 09/22/2012 4:31:49 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Libs, dems, unions, leftist scum & murderous muzzies - are like bacteria: attack, attack, attack!)
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To: PLMerite
Well, if they've gotten away with everything for 13 years...and never experienced any consequences for their actions...

... and obviously haven't been around any real men or they wouldn't have salon-styled girl hair...

...and probably had "my little pony" mothers ditzy enough to think effeminate boys' hair is just adorable and adorable boys can do no wrong ...

...then it may not have occured to them, and certainly it was never taught to them that there would be consequences for their actions this time.

We're going to see a lot of this stuff because we've got young men being raised who have not only never had fathers, but no grandfathers, either. I wonder if these two fit that bill.

20 posted on 09/22/2012 4:35:18 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: jakerobins

Were these boys on doctor ordered psychotropic drugs?


21 posted on 09/22/2012 4:36:06 PM PDT by doc
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To: RegulatorCountry

12 seconds!


22 posted on 09/22/2012 4:37:40 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Axe murderers do seem to run in families at times, some sort of heritable psychological defect I suppose. It can also be bred out. I have two in my lines, way back, seventeenth century. A few in the eighteenth century could have been characterized as prone to manias, but it led to accomplishments that were fairly impressive for that time and place, rather than blunt head trauma for some unfortunate individual.

These two were unrelated, though they look like bookends. Acting out the same, looking the same, they were closer than we know, and the crazy might run pretty deep. There may be another reason for killing the great grandmother of the one as a result. Maybe she disapproved of something.


23 posted on 09/22/2012 4:39:25 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: livius

Those “pouty mouths” should come real handy in prison.. I hope they’re both raped senseless. Serves them right.


24 posted on 09/22/2012 4:43:00 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: jakerobins
This is absolutely unbelievable. They killed his great-grandmother, then went out for pizza. In the state that gave us Ed Gein and Jeffrey Dahmer, they went out for a pizza, when there was plenty of perfectly good fresh great-grandmother just laying there.

Kids these days are so spoiled.

25 posted on 09/22/2012 4:55:45 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (OVERTHROW OBAMA!)
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To: Ken522

They need a haircut.......and a severe beating.......


26 posted on 09/22/2012 5:05:13 PM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: doc

Watch for updates. Your suspicions may well be upheld.


27 posted on 09/22/2012 5:13:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: jakerobins

A Clockwork Sheboygan?

These two will be the perfect candidates for that “... civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” /s


28 posted on 09/22/2012 5:17:07 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: Morgana

People who have children out of wedlock and then keep the baby. Go for a couple generations of that and Viola, Lord of the Flys. There is no race that is immune.


29 posted on 09/22/2012 5:28:52 PM PDT by Varda
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To: Edward Teach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

We think alike.


30 posted on 09/22/2012 5:31:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Wow, that was my first thought, too. You worry me, man.


31 posted on 09/22/2012 5:39:32 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (All Y'all White Peoples is racist!)
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To: piasa

“We’re going to see a lot of this stuff because we’ve got young men being raised who have not only never had fathers, but no grandfathers, either. I wonder if these two fit that bill. “

She was in her 80’s so I doubt it. More than likely she was a widow. All my grandmothers and great grandmothers (yes I had them) were widows when they died. Had one great grandmother that died at 93 having outlived three husbands!!


32 posted on 09/22/2012 5:55:44 PM PDT by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Aevery_Freeman
You worry me, man.

Is that you Dad? ;)

33 posted on 09/22/2012 5:59:08 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Those “pouty mouths” should come real handy in prison.. I hope they’re both raped senseless. Serves them right.

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This is a horrific statement.

These kids should get a maximum sentence, and in my book, the death penalty should be given to cold blooded murderers like this.

HOWEVER: The People and the State should have the courage to sentence them to death, not to use other prisoners to torture them.

Our forefathers left the webs of Europe and Asia to escape totalitarian torture. Do not make it justifiable when there is no courage to do the right thing.

34 posted on 09/22/2012 6:14:27 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: RegulatorCountry
"I have two in my lines, way back, seventeenth century."

Don't fight it, man.

35 posted on 09/22/2012 6:16:18 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: jakerobins

Boy toys!


36 posted on 09/22/2012 6:16:26 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: jakerobins

They have vacant-looking eyes. Both have “idiot” written all over their faces.


37 posted on 09/22/2012 6:39:03 PM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: jakerobins

I vote execute. Quickly, cleanly, like we put down rabid dogs. I don’t care if they are “only” 13. By 8 you should know this is wrong. If you don’t, well... we should make it quick.


38 posted on 09/22/2012 6:55:21 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady

Agree - execute them.


39 posted on 09/22/2012 7:22:18 PM PDT by ciaocotc
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To: doc

Very likely. I would guess a combo of Prescription Amphetamines or Anti-Depressants. Of course if the Police drug test the boys and find any small amount of Marijuana in their systems that will be blamed.


40 posted on 09/22/2012 7:26:20 PM PDT by jakerobins
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Both boys are of the times. Brought up in an age of moral ambiguity. No discernment or judgement and absolutely no fear of any post mortem reward or retribution. Anything goes. We must judge. We must discern. We must discriminate. And toleration should never extend to tolerating the venal, the wicked, and the evil. And for what did they commit murder? Money for a pizza! Madness!


41 posted on 09/22/2012 7:37:36 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: PLMerite

You should have grown up with the guys I grew up with in a small Mississippi river town in Iowa. They were feral dogs who pushed it as far as they could.


42 posted on 09/22/2012 8:38:47 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: Chickensoup

Give them a short stay in prison before executing them. Mix them in with the prison population so they can learn a respect for ‘wrong’ prior to death.


43 posted on 09/22/2012 9:22:07 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: jakerobins

“Barbeau’s defense attorney told a local TV station he will try to have the case moved to juvenile court.”

OK, try that. It’s not gonna happen, but go ahead and try.

NOT OBAMA’S SONS.


44 posted on 09/23/2012 2:58:10 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Chickensoup

I agree with you.


45 posted on 09/23/2012 3:04:13 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: SunkenCiv

You know I agree...


46 posted on 09/23/2012 9:40:50 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Chickensoup

Wisonsin outlawed the death penalty back in the 1800s after a particularly gruesome hanging that went awry. If these boys are tried as juveniles, the State can keep them in prison until 18. If they are tried as adults, they could get life.

Unfortunately “no death penalty” in Wisconsin often leads to Dahmer’s fate — death handed him by another incarcerated criminal who can suffer no further consequence other than solitary confinement. Dahmer and another criminal named Anderson both were killed the same day by the same perp. Their offence? Killing blacks, or trying to frame blacks for a murder.

Which is worse? A lethal injection administered by a prison doctor after multiple trials and appeals, or being murdered by another prisoner on a lark? Life in prison is not a very good life.


47 posted on 09/23/2012 11:33:35 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Which is worse? A lethal injection administered by a prison doctor after multiple trials and appeals, or being murdered by another prisoner on a lark? Life in prison is not a very good life.
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I guess I vote for the death penalty swiftly administered as a detterent and as punishment. Not torture, not lengthy trials.


48 posted on 09/23/2012 5:47:28 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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