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Turkey deploys heavy weapons to Syrian border: TV
Reuters via Chicago Tribune ^ | Friday, September 22, 2012 | Ayla Jean Yackley (ed by Robin Pomeroy)

Posted on 09/22/2012 5:19:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Turkey's military deployed armored vehicles and heavy weaponry to the border with Syria on Saturday, near a crossing that has seen intense fighting between rebels and government forces, local media said.

The deployment is reportedly in an area where earlier this week Turkish civilians were wounded when stray bullets and shelling crossed the border from the Syrian province of al-Raqqa.

CNN Turk television said artillery fire had landed close to the Turkish border overnight, causing panic among local residents.

The Turkish army moved three Howitzers and one anti-aircraft weapon to the border, the channel said.

Turkey, a member of NATO, has conducted a number of troop deployments in recent months along its 911-km (566-mile) border with Syria, where rebels are fighting to topple President Bashar al-Assad.

Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan has been an outspoken critic of Assad's handling the uprising that has killed an estimated 27,000 people since it began as a peaceful protest in March 2011.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: kurdistan; syria; turkey; waronterror
Rebels shoot down fighter jet in northern Syria, witness says -- Rebel fighters raise the pre-Bath Syrian flag from a second story window during an anti-regime protest in the Bustan al-Qasr neighborhood of Aleppo on September 21, 2012. Photo by AFP

Rebels shoot down fighter jet in northern Syria, witness says

1 posted on 09/22/2012 5:19:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Rebels shoot down fighter jet in northern Syria, witness says -- The witness, an independent journalist who asked to remain anonymous, said rebel fighters were attacking a military base near the town when the jet flew over and rebels shot it down with anti-aircraft guns. Vastly outgunned, rebels say they need surface-to-air missiles to take down planes and helicopters used by the Syrian military to bombard opposition strongholds. Fighters use outdated anti-aircraft machine guns that are welded to pickup trucks but they are inaccurate and useless if the military aircraft fly above a certain altitude. On August 27 fighters shot down a helicopter on the outskirts of Damascus and three days later rebels said they had brought down a jet in Idlib, near the Turkish border. Activists say more than 27,000 people, mostly civilians, have been killed in the 18-month-old revolt in Syria, which began with peaceful street protests that provoked a military crackdown and mushroomed into civil war. Despite calling for Assad to step down, the West is wary of arming disparate rebel groups.

2 posted on 09/22/2012 5:22:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Turkey aiding the FSA?


3 posted on 09/22/2012 5:30:45 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SunkenCiv

If some Americans ever decided to forcibly overthrow the US government as some in Syria are now doing, the USA administration D/R would throw everything our military had at massacring and extinguishing them.

Why does the USA believe we have a right to interject our supposed values upon other sovereign nations? I don’t agree with our involvement in the ME and the Syrian thing and the Libyan thing.

We need to get back to rebuilding our USA and get out of a ME that is none of our business.


4 posted on 09/22/2012 5:31:34 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: SunkenCiv

War and rumors of war...


5 posted on 09/22/2012 5:44:49 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: apoliticalone

Head back to Lew Rockwell.


6 posted on 09/22/2012 5:54:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: piytar

Just like every other time in history.


7 posted on 09/22/2012 5:54:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yes, but these times were supposed to be different. Our peace prize winner isn’t getting the peace done.


8 posted on 09/22/2012 5:58:54 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Obama built this


9 posted on 09/22/2012 6:03:42 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: GeronL

I was going to post another article, about the FSA takeover of a Syrian border crossing just over the line from Turkey, but somehow managed to lose track of it. Hmm... [rustling noise]

Syrian rebels capture strategic border crossing into Turkey
Rebels gain important 3rd border crossing into Turkey as strategic foothold, supply route.
David Trifunov
September 19, 2012 11:27
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/middle-east/syria/120919/syria-rebels-capture-border-crossing-turkey


10 posted on 09/22/2012 6:07:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I saw an article saying the FSA had moved their HQ from Turkey back into Syria... or something. Is this related?

Why are the rebels trying to prod Turkey into this war?


11 posted on 09/22/2012 6:10:16 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: John W

...orrrr, maybe his job isn’t what we are told that it is.


12 posted on 09/22/2012 6:11:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Senator John Kerry said he was alarmed that a country the US had put lives on the line to democratize was so flagrantly violating US interests... Iran has been using civilian aircraft to fly military personnel and large quantities of weapons across Iraqi airspace to Syria to aid Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in his attempt to crush an 18-month uprising against his government, according to a Western intelligence report seen by Reuters. Earlier this month, US officials said they were questioning Iraq about Iranian flights in Iraqi airspace suspected of ferrying arms to al-Assad, a staunch Iranian ally. On Wednesday, US Senator John Kerry threatened to review US aid to Baghdad if it does not halt such overflights. Iraq says it does not allow the passage of any weapons through its airspace. However, the intelligence report obtained says Iranian weapons have been flowing into Syria via Iraq in large quantities. Such transfers, the report says, are organized by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. "This is part of a revised Iranian modus operandi that US officials have only recently addressed publicly, following previous statements to the contrary," said the report, a copy of which was provided by a UN diplomatic source. "It also flies in the face of declarations by Iraqi officials," it said. "Planes are flying from Iran to Syria via Iraq on an almost daily basis, carrying IRGC [Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps] personnel and tens of tons of weapons to arm the Syrian security forces and militias fighting against the rebels." It added that Iran was also "continuing to assist the regime in Damascus by sending trucks overland via Iraq" to Syria. -- Iran ships arms, troops to Syria via Iraq

Iran ships arms, troops to Syria via Iraq

13 posted on 09/22/2012 6:13:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Lera

Yup.
14 posted on 09/22/2012 6:17:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: apoliticalone
Why does the USA believe we have a right to interject our supposed values upon other sovereign nations?

On of our most important values is national security.

When a nation has ties to terror groups committed to killing Americans and that sentiment would grow in our absence why would you think we don't have a right to intervene?

15 posted on 09/22/2012 6:42:30 PM PDT by what's up
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To: SunkenCiv

Internecine Islamic fratricide.

Hard to care very much.


16 posted on 09/22/2012 6:49:26 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: SunkenCiv

what kind of aircraft ?
MiG ? Su ?


17 posted on 09/22/2012 6:55:39 PM PDT by traumer
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To: SunkenCiv
Just like every other time in history.

And even before that.

18 posted on 09/22/2012 7:11:06 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: SunkenCiv
Turkey? Hmmm...looks like we're starting to show some Ezekiel 38 blips on the early warning system.
19 posted on 09/22/2012 8:33:42 PM PDT by GBA
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To: GBA

I’m sure that was pointed out during the the two modern Battles of Armageddon.


20 posted on 09/22/2012 8:41:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Please continue


21 posted on 09/22/2012 8:49:59 PM PDT by GBA
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To: Psalm 144

The best part of a muzzie civil war is, everyone wins.


22 posted on 09/22/2012 9:02:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ASA Vet

Tru dat. There’s a neolithic site in what is now Egypt that was a village, but pretty large — and it was burned to the ground, never rebuilt, and the site was littered with many hundreds or thousands of stone arrowheads.


23 posted on 09/22/2012 9:04:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: GBA
Thirty to date:
The Battles of Armageddon: Megiddo and the Jezreel Valley from the Bronze Age to the Nuclear Age
The Battles of Armageddon:
Megiddo and the Jezreel Valley
from the Bronze Age
to the Nuclear Age

by Eric H. Cline

Eric H. Cline:
The Battles of Armageddon
University of Michigan Press


24 posted on 09/22/2012 9:13:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Thanks. That might be helpful.

So far, I'm more of fan of Joel Rosenberg's writing on Ezekiel 38 and find the Biblical timeline and events he writes about that must happen first to be intriguing.

Apparently, Armageddon comes after Ezekiel's war? I am fairly late to the party when it comes to learning/studying what I probably would have been better off growing up with.

Better late than never, I suppose.

25 posted on 09/22/2012 9:36:17 PM PDT by GBA
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To: GBA

My only interest in prophecy is sociological.


26 posted on 09/22/2012 10:01:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: what's up

I agree on the issue of our security. Obamas values are not my values.

When it comes to Syria I’m not sure we have the foggiest idea what the turmoil after Assad will mean to the USA.


27 posted on 09/23/2012 5:31:17 AM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: SunkenCiv

I share that interest, but haven’t narrowed things down that far yet. I’m still just a seeker of information and clues for the jigsaw puzzle that my understanding of this world seems to be. Too many missing pieces to see it clearly, that or I’m making it too complicated.


28 posted on 09/23/2012 5:39:39 AM PDT by GBA
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To: GeronL
Why are the rebels trying to prod Turkey into this war?

The rebels are Sunni , Turkey is Sunni.
This isn't about freedom in Syria
It's about forming a caliphate and you can't form one when you have people who are entrenched in their power .None of the old leaders were going to step down and hand their power off to another , so they all need to be over thrown and replaced with people who are not entrenched and have nothing to lose by handing that power over to one central leader .
Why Turkey ? Because they are the only country who was able to handle it before (no Arab country could handle it) This is all about forming a caliphate where Sharia law is the constitution .

29 posted on 09/23/2012 8:53:03 AM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: GeronL; Lera

Turkey has hosted refugees since the trickle became a flood, iow, after Assad started leveling whole towns formerly filled with Syrian citizens. The Free Syrian Army originated something like a year ago, and Turkey let the leadership HQ on Turkish soil. Turkey’s population is (like Syria) a bit of this, and a bit of that, but of the Muzzie population, the Sunni-Alawite split is roughly the same. Also, there are Kurds living in Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and a few other countries, basically a contiguous area crossing multiple borders. Back when, the Shah of Iran supported a Kurdish faction operating in northern Iraq, and the other Kurdish factions began life the same way, but with different benefactors. A faction that is supported by one regime attacks other regimes, but I don’t think they typically fight much amongst themselves.


30 posted on 09/24/2012 6:35:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: GBA

That’s another thing that hasn’t changed much — dang, the world is complicated!


31 posted on 09/24/2012 6:36:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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