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Federal judge says no constitutional right to secret ballot in Boulder case
The Denver Post ^ | 11:29:23 PM, Sep 21, 2012 | Tim Hoover

Posted on 09/22/2012 10:41:52 PM PDT by newzjunkey

Saying there is no fundamental right to a secret ballot, a federal judge Friday dismissed a lawsuit filed by elections integrity activists that challenged whether counties can print ballots with identifying numbers that critics say can be traced back to individual voters easily. ...

[Judge] Arguello said activists had not shown the plaintiffs had suffered or would suffer any specific injury that could be remedied by a federal court. She said that even if a ballot could be traced back to a specific voter, it doesn't show that a person's voting rights were violated, saying there was no "fundamental right" to a secret vote in the U.S. Constitution. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at vivacolorado.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: arguello; boulder; bush43appointee; bushappointee; christinearugello; colorado; secretballot; voting
The news here is U.S. District Judge Christine Arguello, a George W Bush appointee, has ruled there is NO constitutional right to a secret ballot. Colorado is now free to make ballots traceable to individual voters.

The judge ruled there is not issue since no voter has yet demonstrated harm from their votes being known.

In addition to gov't knowledge of who voted how, the Open Records Act ensures the public can inspect ballots too.

1 posted on 09/22/2012 10:41:59 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: newzjunkey

Yep, no good will come from this.


2 posted on 09/22/2012 10:46:49 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: newzjunkey

“We know where you live, so you better vote the correct way”

The judge is a moron


3 posted on 09/22/2012 10:55:38 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks newzjunkey.
dismissed a lawsuit filed by elections integrity activists that challenged whether counties can print ballots with identifying numbers
Yeah, well, it would be better if it were even easier to stuff the ballot box. Bad judge, bad, bad!


4 posted on 09/22/2012 11:00:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: newzjunkey

Hmm.. Researching this a little makes me scratch my chin. In a way, it looks like those opposed to this ruling are concerned that Democrat vote fraud might be easier to ascertain (and therefore, prosecute). Note that this article is from the Hispanic, illegal alien version of the Denver Post.


5 posted on 09/22/2012 11:18:28 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: newzjunkey
The headline is inflammatory. I want ID numbers on the ballots.

When I get a receipt after I vote, I want to know that my ballot didn't get thrown into San Francisco Bay. I want to be able to have my ballot produced if the need should arise.

-PJ

6 posted on 09/22/2012 11:26:10 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't I naturally when you're not natural born.)
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To: GeronL
“We know where you live, so you better vote the correct way”

"We know you live in Mexico, so you better vote there instead of here."

7 posted on 09/22/2012 11:29:30 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: newzjunkey

Off of the top of my head I can’t think of any reference in the Constitution to secret ballots.


8 posted on 09/22/2012 11:29:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: newzjunkey
No secret ballot? What could possibly go wrong?


10 posted on 09/23/2012 12:02:55 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in America's panties, 0bama is the yellow stain in front!)
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To: TigersEye
Off of the top of my head I can’t think of any reference in the Constitution to secret ballots.

It's probably hiding under one of the penumbras or emanations or something.

11 posted on 09/23/2012 1:05:40 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Zeppo

Seriously, though...

if there is a secret balance reference, it must be chosen (or not) by the legislatures of each state.


12 posted on 09/23/2012 1:34:25 AM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: C210N

... and NOT any judge, for sure.


13 posted on 09/23/2012 1:35:41 AM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: newzjunkey

Biographical Directory of Federal Judges
Arguello, Christine M.

Born 1955 in Thatcher, CO

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U.S. District Court, District of Colorado
Nominated by George W. Bush on July 10, 2008, to a seat vacated by Walker D. Miller. Confirmed by the Senate on September 26, 2008, and received commission on October 21, 2008.

Associate & full professor, University of Kansas School of Law, 1991-1999

Visiting & adjunct professor, University of Colorado School of Law, 1999-2002

Visiting professor, University of Denver College of Law, 2003


14 posted on 09/23/2012 3:11:12 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (million)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
Senora Arguello de Thatcher:

Just another Left Wing Mexican Affirmative Action hire

15 posted on 09/23/2012 3:22:44 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: newzjunkey
"On May 18, 2009, Arguello confirmed to a Denver television station that she had been approached by White House intermediaries one week earlier about being considered to fill a seat on the Supreme Court of the United States. "I said 'yes,'" she told the station. "I wouldn't have gone this far if I didn't think I could serve my country in this way."
16 posted on 09/23/2012 3:23:19 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (million)
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To: Zeppo
So it would be interesting how she got around Griswold.

If there is a "right to privacy" which even includes dismembering a child within you, how could it be that voting is something which the armed gangbangers known as The State can force you to reveal?

Maybe this little Wise Latina made a big Ooopsie which could be exploited to kill the Roe monster.

17 posted on 09/23/2012 3:32:13 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Political Junkie Too
The headline is inflammatory. I want ID numbers on the ballots. When I get a receipt after I vote, I want to know that my ballot didn't get thrown into San Francisco Bay. I want to be able to have my ballot produced if the need should arise.

Yep - it doesn't avoid privacy at the booths, it makes a traceable record in case anyone ever really wanted to investgate fraud...

18 posted on 09/23/2012 5:27:31 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Tzar

Voting was public and in person in early Virginia too. On that day every free man with minimal property was equal to the wealthiest Planter.


19 posted on 09/23/2012 5:32:07 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Exterminate rats.)
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To: newzjunkey

In Texas and most (but not quite all) states, people that vote in Primaries are identified by which party’s primary they voted in. So, at least in my case, being that I vote in Republican primaries, it’s a pretty safe bet who I’ll vote for in November. And if Obama wants to sick the IRS or some other government agency on me, he’s already had plenty of chances and hasn’t yet done it.

I’m tending to like the idea of a paper trail, and the Republicans could (but won’t) use it as a campaign weapon - with advertising pointing out that each vote is traceable. It would SCARE THE HECK out of the Illegals.


20 posted on 09/23/2012 6:14:37 AM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: TigersEye
"Off of the top of my head I can’t think of any reference in the Constitution to secret ballots."

It would be in the constitution of individual states. Here in Georgia, the state constitution, Article II. Section I. Paragraph I., states: "Method of voting. Elections by the people shall be by secret ballot and shall be conducted in accordance with procedures provided by law."

21 posted on 09/23/2012 6:29:06 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: newzjunkey
It seems I've woken up in an alternate universe again. I fail to see the rational.

Why are the voting booths private? Why not just sit around a big table wearing name badges and vote with cameras over our shoulders recording our every move?

Would that disenfranchise voters? Would minorities who don't want to show a picture ID be more willing to vote thanks to her ruling?

Bush's fault?

22 posted on 09/23/2012 8:35:39 AM PDT by GBA
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

A Federal judge wouldn’t have jurisdiction in that case.


23 posted on 09/23/2012 10:14:33 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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