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US State Dept. blasts CNN report on Stevens' diary
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | September 23, 2012 | LYNN ELBER

Posted on 09/23/2012 1:49:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

CNN reported on the personal journal of slain American ambassador Christopher Stevens over objections from his family, a State Department spokesman said Saturday.

The news channel, in a story posted online Saturday, said that it found a journal belonging to Stevens four days after he died in a Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya. Three other Americans also were killed.

CNN broke a pledge to the late ambassador's family that it wouldn't report on the diary, said State Department spokesman Philippe Reines, a senior adviser to U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

In a blistering statement, Reines called CNN's actions "indefensible."

The channel said in the story online that it took "newsworthy tips" from Stevens' diary and confirmed them with other sources. Citing an unidentified source "familiar with Stevens' thinking," CNN said that the ambassador was concerned about security threats in Benghazi and a "rise in Islamic extremism."

In a statement Saturday, CNN defended its use of the journal's contents and asked "why is the State Department now attacking the messenger."

...."Given the truth of how this was handled, CNN patting themselves on the back is disgusting," Reines said in his statement.

(Excerpt) Read more at ajc.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 911ii; alqaeda; benghazi; christopherstevens; cnn; embassymurders; embassysecurity; hillary; libya; middleeast; policyfailure; stevensdiary; usstatedept
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1 posted on 09/23/2012 1:50:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Obama and Hillary can’t handle the Truth.


2 posted on 09/23/2012 1:56:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

In other words, the Powers That Be wanted CNN to report the Pravda, not the truth. . .


3 posted on 09/23/2012 1:58:07 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What this tells us is that the Clinton State Dept.
made no effort to secure the site AFTER the fact,
makes you wonder what else was found scattered in
the wreckage.


4 posted on 09/23/2012 2:02:16 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It’s theater.

In collusion with Ubama’s people, CNN did NOT reveal parts of the diary that would be fatally embarrassing to the Ubama regime. It is likely CNN was contacted and instructed on how to play this for credibility. So now CNN and the State Department have to feign a scuffle as they wink and nod at each other.

Just look at who got the diary (CNN) and who didn’t (Fox News).


5 posted on 09/23/2012 2:05:47 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Evidence tampering is a major felony.


6 posted on 09/23/2012 2:06:53 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Evidence tampering is a major felony.

So is voter fraud, gun running, treason, and any number of things this regime does every day.

7 posted on 09/23/2012 2:11:53 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Evidence tampering is a major felony.

So is voter fraud, gun running, treason, and any number of things this regime does every day.

8 posted on 09/23/2012 2:11:53 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: Salgak

I was split on this. On one hand, you have the state department deliberately lying about the situation with Chris Stevens while his diary says the exact opposite. On the other hand, there is the family who didn’t want it made public...although I am not quite sure why that is. You would think the family would want the truth out there since the state department was lying about the circumstances.
IF CNN confirmed what was in the diary, I gotta go with them on this one. hillary was flat out lying. Do you let the lie stand when you know the truth? I think not.


9 posted on 09/23/2012 2:19:48 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: MestaMachine; All

September 23, 2012 - Bill and Hillary Clinton dine at trendy Brooklyn pizzeria Roberta’s at party for Democratic donor Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, former President Bill Clinton and Chelsea Clinton dined Friday at the graffiti-laden, uber-trendy Brooklyn pizzeria Roberta’s during a private birthday party for a top Democratic donor, according to a singer who performed at the gala.

“I don't think I could top this one, to be honest,” said Lia Ices, who sang for the 70-person group, which also included director Joel Coen and Gloria Steinem.

All three Clintons gave speeches....."

10 posted on 09/23/2012 2:29:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The quoted statements show a whole lot of rocket scientists at state department.

Apparently it never occurred to these people that the "Arab spring" could make things worse in the middle east.

Not sure if that is arrogance or ignorance.

11 posted on 09/23/2012 2:33:27 AM PDT by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
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12 posted on 09/23/2012 2:34:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ain’t enough makeup in the world to fix up Hillary enough to run in ‘16. She’s UUUUUUUGLEEEE!


13 posted on 09/23/2012 2:40:25 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: exnavy; All

President Obama is briefed in the Oval Office before a March 2011 meeting with congressional leaders on the conflict in Libya. (Pete Souza, White House / March 17, 2011)

Obama's foreign policy approach: Act cautiously, and not alone - The president fashions a use-of-force doctrine that supporters say is prudent but critics deem too timid - ".....Supporters of the administration point to the military intervention in Libya as an example of success for the Obama doctrine, despite the storming of the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi last week. While agreeing that the deaths there of the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans show that Libya is still threatened by Islamist radicals and other armed groups, they say the radicals remain weak and that Libya has made a promising start after decades of dictatorship.....

14 posted on 09/23/2012 2:44:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Lancey Howard
If it's in his diary, you can be ABSOLUTELY certain that Hillary was informed.

And remember, even Khaddafi (before we assassinated him) told us that the rebels were being led by former gitmo detainees.

Now the Dems would LIKE to blame the noted detainee of the Libyan attack on Bush, but it was the Dems that were saying that we were holding these detainees illegally.

15 posted on 09/23/2012 2:45:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/21/us/21guantanamo.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0


16 posted on 09/23/2012 2:51:06 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: exnavy
Sir, they want the Middle East destabilized in order to destroy Israel. Flat out that simple.
17 posted on 09/23/2012 2:51:13 AM PDT by poobear (Socialism, in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Let's take a walk back in time. This image is of a very young hillary with a very young suha arafat. Their relationship with the arafats only grew during the ensuing years.


18 posted on 09/23/2012 2:55:14 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: MestaMachine
Bill and Hillary and Huma and Anthony ".....If you've scratched your head trying to puzzle out the complex inter-relationships between these glamorous grifters, stop scratching. I'm about to unveil a Grand Unified Theory that explains why Huma Abedin, the alleged Muslim Brotherhood asset who's the top aide of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, chose to marry disgraced ex-Congressman Anthony Weiner in an interfaith ceremony performed by matrimonial expert Bill Clinton......"
19 posted on 09/23/2012 3:01:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; mickie
Hillary's hair always looks like it was combed out by a mixmaster.

Leni

20 posted on 09/23/2012 3:06:02 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I thought girls kept diarys and men kept journals.


21 posted on 09/23/2012 3:07:15 AM PDT by chemicalman (The more support I see,the harder I want to work,and the more determined I am not to let folks down.)
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To: MinuteGal

I wonder who’s telling her that she looks good with long hair.


22 posted on 09/23/2012 3:07:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It is regrettable that the State Department and the Obama Administration never got a chance to sequester the journal never to see the light of day again. This just upsets their long line of lies about Egypt, Libya et al even more. CNN has broken their promise to pass everything through OBAMA first. /s


23 posted on 09/23/2012 3:12:37 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: poobear
I am beginning to think the destruction of that nation by the left of the west is a myth. I think it's the, “can't we all just get along” diplomacy they have in mind.
24 posted on 09/23/2012 3:14:24 AM PDT by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Before barack, there were the clintons and rezko

Yet people still wonder who the guiding hand behind obama is.

25 posted on 09/23/2012 3:25:55 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perhaps the state department should get a clue what is goiing on in their own offices with their own staff.

No security. Unbelivable.


26 posted on 09/23/2012 3:39:17 AM PDT by rod1 (CTLY)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
They say the family asked for the State Department's help to secure the diary...

I say baloney....the State Department found out about it first....and went after the family to silence them.

The media found plenty of written documents in Iraq. They weren't turned over to the government.

Who does the diary belong to?? Whomever has it.

I do NOT believe it belonged to the family. It was however returned in good faith.

27 posted on 09/23/2012 3:51:25 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

See the pic on Drudge of Hilda crying? Those are the tears of “ it’s all over “ and She knows it. She left her guy to die without protection and now we it.

Her coverup and lies got out, She can’t use I don’t remember this time.


28 posted on 09/23/2012 3:51:47 AM PDT by reefdiver (zer0 One and Done)
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To: reefdiver; All
".......[Chelsea Clinton's] parents took her out of school just once, she says, “for the signing of the peace agreement between Rabin and Yasser Arafat.” She also always had summer jobs and internships, traveling with them only when school was out. “Again, I think my parents succeeded, thankfully, in bringing me along this journey in ways that were appropriate—and critical to ensuring that I still saw them as working parents.” Of course, most working parents don’t face professional crises of near-biblical proportions. And yet, despite everything we know about the roller-coaster scandals of the Clinton years, Chelsea refuses to dwell on the downside. “There were constant reminders of how blessed I really was, and the blessings always far outweighed the burdens.” (Chelsea speaks of “blessings” frequently; like her mother, she is an observant social-justice Methodist who gets to church on most Sundays.)...." Waiting in the Wings: An Exclusive Interview with Chelsea Clinton [Mrs. Marc Mezvinsky]
29 posted on 09/23/2012 3:57:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: exnavy

I think that is the narrative they want us to believe. I believe with all my heart half the people in this administration are blazing Anti-Semites. I mean, a closet Muslim, Hilary Clinton and Leon Panetta to name a few!


30 posted on 09/23/2012 4:05:57 AM PDT by poobear (Socialism, in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: Sacajaweau

They’re angry because it’s their lack of engagement and follow-up in the country they helped turn over to AQ. How do they sleep nights knowing what the ambassador went through. His blood is on their hands and all they care about is saving their own asses. They disgust me.


31 posted on 09/23/2012 4:33:06 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: poobear
You may be very well correct, the American left has a strange fascination, and alignment with the dark side of this planet.
32 posted on 09/23/2012 4:36:36 AM PDT by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
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To: Sacajaweau

CNN getting so desperate for ratings that they’re actually criticizing Obama and Hillary?

That’s Breaking News right there.


33 posted on 09/23/2012 4:59:15 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Sacajaweau; All

Sept 22, 2012:Mona Charen: Just came across this piece I wrote last year for former Congressman Bob Beauprez’s website. It’s a summary of this administration’s treatment of Israel. I cannot discuss the Jewish vote without getting an ulcer, but I’d simply ask that you forward to anyone you know who is sympathetic to Israel.


http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/328278/sorry-bad-link-mona-charen

Mona Charen: Sorry, couldn’t get the link to work.

Here’s the piece:

No Friend of Israel’s
20-Dec-2011 | By Mona Charen

The Obama Administration has tirelessly — one might even say tiresomely — proclaimed its rock solid commitment to Israel. The message has been delivered by the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the National Security Advisor, and most flamboyantly, by the president himself. At a recent fundraiser attended by Jewish donors, President Obama boasted, “I try not to pat myself too much on the back, but this administration has done more for the security of the state of Israel than any previous administration.” Both clauses of that sentence are risible.

In fact, the Obama administration’s approach to Israel has been decidedly cool when it has not been openly irate. It began in the early weeks of the new administration. Traveling to the region, the president visited American allies Egypt and Saudi Arabia. He skipped Israel.

Rather than consult with Israel about the delicate state of relations with the Palestinians, President Obama jumped directly into the process with a peremptory demand: Israel should cease all settlement activity. Mahmoud Abbas, the leader of the Palestinian Authority, had made no such demand regarding renewing negotiations. But once the president of the United States had essentially declared the opening position of the Palestinian Authority, he could hardly demand less. Accordingly, while Netanyahu had agreed to a settlement freeze and no preconditions for resuming negotiations, talks stalled as Abbas refused to participate.

That the administration blamed Israel, and not the Palestinians or itself for the impasse became clear when Vice President Biden was visiting the Jewish state in 2010. During the Vice President’s trip, a municipal authority in Jerusalem announced a building permit for a block of apartments in Jerusalem. The usually phlegmatic President Obama went ballistic. Though Netanyahu apologized to Biden, and Biden accepted the apology on the spot, President Obama insisted that Secretary of State Clinton call Netanyahu and chew him out for 40 minutes. Details of the dressing down were immediately released to the press.

Not satisfied with this, a few days later presidential advisor David Axelrod appeared on a Sunday chat show to reiterate that the White House regarded building apartments for Jews in the capital of the Jewish state as “an affront.” Later, when Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu visited the White House, President Obama delivered the final slaps – declining to pose for pictures or take press questions with the prime minister; delivering a list of steps Israel would have to take to restore trust; and then pointedly walking out on the prime minister with the parting words “Let me know if there is anything new.”

Contrast that treatment with the administration’s passivity in the face of Palestinian conduct. In March of 2010, Palestinian terrorists entered the home of Udi and Ruth Fogel in the town of Itamar on the West Bank. The terrorists first slit the throats of Udi and his 3-month old daughter Hadas. Ruth was in the bathroom but was attacked and killed as she emerged. Two more sons, Yoav, 11, and Elad, 4, were also killed by knives to the heart. Their throats were slit as well. There were three more Fogel children. Two other boys, ages 8 and 2, asleep on the sofa, were apparently missed by the murderers. Twelve-year-old Tamar, who had been spending Shabbat with friends, returned home to discover 2-year-old Yishai standing over the bodies of his parents and begging them to wake up.

In Rafah, Palestinians celebrated the news of the massacre by dancing, singing, and handing around sweets.

The Obama Administration issued a pro-forma condemnation. “There is no possible justification for the killing of parents and children in their home” it read. Secretary Clinton called the murders “inhuman” and reportedly coaxed a more robust denunciation of the atrocity from Palestinian Authority chairman Mahmoud Abbas than he had at first offered.

But there has been little else – no ongoing campaign to shame or humiliate the Palestinians; no list of actions they must undertake to show their good faith – not even a particularly strong expression of revulsion.

The administration has let it be known, again and again, that it regards Israel as the obstacle to peace. This, at a time when Israel’s neighbors have given the world abundant reasons for worry. The Palestinian Authority has formally allied with the terrorist organization Hamas. Mahmoud Abbas announced just last week that “there are now no differences between us.” Does that include Hamas’s implacable determination to destroy the Jewish state and to exterminate Jews all over the world “no matter how long that should take”?

Meanwhile, in Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood won 40 percent of the vote in parliamentary elections, while another 25 percent went to Salafi forces. The Salafis regard the Muslim Brotherhood as squishes. Sheik Abdel Moneim el-Shahat, leader of the Salafis, is scornful of the Muslim Brotherhood for talking about citizenship and freedom outside the strictures of Islamic law. El-Shahat is not so broad-minded. “I want to say: citizenship restricted by Islamic sharia, freedom restricted by Islamic Sharia, equality restricted by Islamic Sharia.” So two-thirds the Egyptian electorate supports candidates who will find Hamas utterly congenial.

The regime of Bashar al-Assad in Syria is engaged in a bloody repression of his restive people that has claimed the lives of more than 5000 brave protesters.

But the Obama Administration is dismayed by Israel.

Every previous US administration has tacitly accepted that Israel has nuclear weapons and has chosen not to make an issue of it. And for good reasons. Every fair-minded analyst understands that Israel is a tiny nation surrounded by enemies dedicated to her destruction. Israel’s possession of nuclear weapons is understood to be a purely defensive measure. But the Obama Administration, in the person of Rose Gottemoeller, Assistant Secretary of State and America’s chief nuclear arms negotiator, has called on Israel (along with Pakistan, India, and North Korea) to sign the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty. It is hard to interpret this as anything less than a hostile act by the United States.

When Turkey and a consortium of Islamist and leftist groups (including Obama friends Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn) organized the so-called “Freedom Flotilla” to run the legal blockade of Hamas-controlled Gaza, President Obama failed to condemn the Turks. Yet when Israel was forced to confront the ships at sea, the U.S. declared that the blockade (also imposed, incidentally, by Egypt) was “unsustainable and unacceptable”. Rather than defend Israel at the United Nations when the inevitable resolution condemning Israel was presented to the Security Council, the U.S. voted with Israel’s enemies. It was a move that Elliott Abrams called “joining the jackals.”

The president telegraphed his intention to distance the United States from Israel in his first address to the United Nations. “The United States does Israel no favors,” he said, “when we fail to couple an unwavering commitment to its security with an insistence that Israel respect the legitimate claims and rights of the Palestinians.” The clear implication is that Israel is not, in fact, respecting the legitimate claims and rights of the Palestinians.

In his second address to the UN, the president went further — demanding that Israel withdraw to the 1967 borders (with land swaps). After enduring bitter criticism from Republicans and even some Democrats in Congress, the administration attempted to justify its recommendation of what Abba Eban called “Auschwitz borders” by suggesting that “everyone knows” that a future Palestinian state will be on the West Bank and Gaza. But once again, rather than insist that the Palestinians accept Israel as a Jewish state, or that the Palestinians purge the terrorists from their midst, the president placed all of the onus on Israel. Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, repairing to the language of those with nothing on the line, encouraged Israel to “take risks for peace.” In his less serene moments, he has barked that Israel should “get back to the damn table” — an extraordinary example of anti-Israel bias by the Obama administration since it is the Palestinians, not the Israelis, who have refused to talk.

Incredibly, even Iran’s march toward a nuclear bomb — arguably the greatest foreign policy challenge of this decade — has been blamed on Israel by the Obama administration. Former National Security Advisor James Jones offered that “We understand Israel’s preoccupation with Iran as an existential threat. We agree with that. . . . By the same token, there are a lot of things that you can do to diminish that existential threat by working hard towards achieving a two-state solution.”

This was no stray remark. A few weeks later, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, made the same point: “For Israel to get the kind of strong support it’s looking for vis-à-vis Iran it can’t stay on the sideline with respect to the Palestinian and the peace efforts . . . they go hand-in-hand.” In other words, any effort to prevent Iran from gaining nuclear weapons is perceived by this administration not as a national security priority for the United States, but as a favor to Israel.

Even assuming that the U.S. were going to “reward” Israel with, say, tough sanctions on Iran in exchange for “progress” on a Palestinian state, what world are living in when you imagine that a two-state solution would have any bearing whatsoever on Iran’s nuclear ambitions? Does President Obama believe that Iran is seeking nuclear weapons in order to achieve a Palestinian state?

President Obama brought to relations with Israel the leftist views he’d imbibed from academia, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Prof. Rashid Khalidi, and from the left wing of the Democratic Party (Jimmy Carter supported the Palestinian’s bid for statehood at the UN). Yes, he’s sold the Israelis bunker buster bombs, and engaged in military to military cooperation. But the most important support America provides to Israel is public. The most damaging attacks on Israel in the 21st century (so far) have not been military but moral and psychological. Israel’s enemies have sought to delegitimize and defame the Jewish state — with some success. So-called “Israel Apartheid” protests have proliferated on university campuses. UN conferences at Durban have trafficked in anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic slanders. It is becoming acceptable in Europe to say that Israel’s birth was a mistake. Even a liberal columnist for the Washington Post, Richard Cohen, has expressed this view.

The nations of the world, never a sentimental lot, have the capacity to descend to a lynch mob where Israel is concerned. Only the military, political, diplomatic, and moral support of the United States prevents that. President Obama, whatever behind-the-scenes aid he has provided to the Jewish state, has failed in the far more important public support for one of America’s closest allies. [end text]


34 posted on 09/23/2012 5:01:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Look at the body language in that photo! Hillary is relaxed; Obama is tense; military? ? is sitting like a shy little girl.


35 posted on 09/23/2012 5:01:42 AM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

I cannot believe I will say this: “CNN is right on something”

The info had to be released. It was not about his personal life....it was direct info about what was going on leading up to the terrorist act

Obama and Clinton have been discredited, and they are upset


36 posted on 09/23/2012 5:02:26 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Egypt wants to execute me.)
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To: All

if they were truthful maybe CNN wouldn’t need to publish this stuff..


37 posted on 09/23/2012 5:15:54 AM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

She sure looks like she has managed to recover from the ordeal of dead ambassador, embassies around the world under siege, etc over the past week.

Like nothing ever happened....


38 posted on 09/23/2012 5:21:28 AM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: arasina

39 posted on 09/23/2012 5:21:53 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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David Horowitz - Sept 7, 2012: Reflections of a Diaspora Jew on Zionism, America and the Fate of the Jews "............Far from creating a refuge, Israel has become the focal point of all the genocidal intentions against the Jews, which have never been more overt or more global. Today Israel is the site of a Holocaust for which the Islamic world openly yearns, and which the rest of the world – with the possible exceptions of America and Canada — will not lift a finger to prevent. This sobering reality has changed the meaning of Zionism, and has made it a more comfortable fit for me. Call it the Zionism of Survival.

In the household I grew up in, I was not brought up to be a Zionist because my parents were Marxist progressives who looked to a socialist future to provide an earthly salvation, and an end to the persecution of the Jews. My parents and their comrades believed that mankind’s conflicts would be resolved by a universal class whose revolution would abolish all nations and unite all peoples, and thus remove the distinctions that made them Jews.

My realization that this was not going to happen occurred through my relationship with a Marxist mentor named Isaac Deutscher. Deutscher had written a book called The Non-Jewish Jew, by which he meant Marxists like us – Jews who were of Judaism but not in it. By the time I came under his influence in the 1960s, he had become a defender of Israel and had been one since the Second World War. Deutscher viewed Israel as a “raft” state – a refuge that Jews could cling to after they had been shipwrecked in the storms that periodically engulfed them. The particular storm he was referring to was Hitler’s “Final Solution.”

During the interwar years, a debate had raged in Europe’s leftwing circles, which carried momentous consequences for those who participated in it. The debate was about how Jews should respond to the looming fascist threat. The Zionists were urging Jews to flee the continent and take refuge in the Palestine Mandate. Marxists like Deutscher argued that the Jews should stay in Europe and fight for the socialist revolution. But as Deutscher ruefully acknowledged later, the Jews who listened to the Zionists were still alive, while those who listened to Marxists like him were dead........."

40 posted on 09/23/2012 5:25:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: kevslisababy

Yes. It’s party time for Hillary and Bill.


41 posted on 09/23/2012 5:26:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Sacajaweau

The Dems also had their law firms SUE, IIRC, to have detainees released.


42 posted on 09/23/2012 5:28:05 AM PDT by PghBaldy (I am sick of Obama's and Hillary's apologies to muslims, especially after 11 September 2012.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why was the diary there in the first place. It makes no sense to me.

CNN finding it days later and not the State Department.

Makes no sense to me.

Are there parts of the diary that State Department wants revealed but knowing they couldn’t do it let it fall into the hands of CNN.

OR was Stevens CIA and CIA wants parts of the diary revealed to expose State Department.

Obama has had a war with the CIA.

Perhaps the CIA wants him out.


43 posted on 09/23/2012 5:40:55 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick; rodguy911

Pinging rodguy911 to your post speculating that Stevens was CIA.


44 posted on 09/23/2012 5:52:28 AM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: RummyChick
Why was the diary there in the first place. It makes no sense to me.

CNN finding it days later and not the State Department.

Makes no sense to me.

Are there parts of the diary that State Department wants revealed but knowing they couldn’t do it let it fall into the hands of CNN.

OR was Stevens CIA and CIA wants parts of the diary revealed to expose State Department.

Obama has had a war with the CIA.

Perhaps the CIA wants him out.

DING DING DING

I am curious if it details our Ambassador's work with the GITMO detainees during the overthrow and the supply of heavy weapons to them. This would make them want to discredit CNN prior to the release of that info. ISOLATE THE TARGET THEN RIDICULE?

45 posted on 09/23/2012 5:57:40 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: MestaMachine
From lead article at Drudge

...In May, one year after arriving aboard a cargo ship to work with those involved in the upstart rebellion, Stevens was appointed U.S. ambassador to Libya.

Glenn Beck was discussing this...believes there is a cover up going on. His theory ... the ambassador helped arm the rebels. Now they are trying to recover weapons before they end up in an incident killing Americans or Israel. Which would be an embarrassment to administration. (Paraphrase), Why was he there on September 11th with basically no security.

46 posted on 09/23/2012 6:03:41 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: MestaMachine

“...there is the family who didn’t want it to be made public...” IF I were a part of the family and found a journal/diary existed, I would want to know what was in it before it was publicized. IF I knew there were things about my loved one that he didn’t want to be made public, I would especially want to read that material before it was publicized. To me it is extremely logical that they would not want it in anyone’s hands and control except their own.


47 posted on 09/23/2012 6:05:28 AM PDT by Ray'sBeth
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I see Hillary is fresh off the set of her new movie, “What Ever Happened to Baby Jane” the sequel.

What the hell is that, a curtain? The hair is a disaster as usual.


48 posted on 09/23/2012 6:06:44 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: arasina

military? ?...hope he doesn’t tap in the mens room.
Odd leg position for a military man...JMO.


49 posted on 09/23/2012 6:11:32 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Admin is upset because the contents of the diary — lack of security and potential threats from muzzies — doesn’t fit the narrative Obama and HClinton and Rice have been trying to sell.

Obama/HClinton are still trying to sell ‘the video’ as the culprit and match that has lighted the ME fiasco. O/HC need that because, otherwise, the culprit and match seems to be incompetence and indecisiveness in Obama ME policy.


50 posted on 09/23/2012 6:20:42 AM PDT by TomGuy
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