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How Big Was Obama’s Crowd in Wisconsin? MSM says 18,000, actual was 5,000 (photos and analysis)
http://battlegroundwatch.com/2012/09/23/how-big-was-obamas-crowd-in-wisconsin/ ^

Posted on 09/23/2012 7:50:32 AM PDT by profit_guy

So Barack Obama who did fill the 23,000 seat amphitheater in 2008 before achieving his Democrat advantage in the state of D +6 at the voting booth could not even fill the 5,000 seat theater next door for his first visit to the state in 220 days during peak election fervor yet the media are polling this state as if he will achieve an even bigger turnout advantage in November? They’re not journalists, they’re partisan advocates.

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1 posted on 09/23/2012 7:50:38 AM PDT by profit_guy
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To: profit_guy

The magic is gone—I don’t think a lot of his supporters will go to the Polls this time—many will sit this one out.


2 posted on 09/23/2012 7:59:05 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: profit_guy

the media are a bunch of freaking LIARS!
They will blatantly LIE about what one actually SEES in photos! I know that when a photo of a rally is closely cropped, it is to hide EMPTY SEATS.

They LIE!

I also believe Obama is seriously BEHIND in the polls.

Romney will win Florida, Ohio, Virginia and Wisconsin.


3 posted on 09/23/2012 8:03:14 AM PDT by a real Sheila (RYAN/romney 2012)
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To: profit_guy

I posted last night that I suspected the crowd was nowhere near the reported 18k or there would have been puctures everywhere.


4 posted on 09/23/2012 8:09:16 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (At 3 am on 9-11 as our embassy in Libya was under attack, the chair was empty but the bed was full)
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To: profit_guy

18,000 in a 5000-seat arena would draw the ire of the local fire marshall. I doubt that even the SS could get away with violating fire codes.


5 posted on 09/23/2012 8:10:49 AM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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To: profit_guy
Obama can fit 18,000 people into a 5,000-seat place.

Imagine what he could do with a few loaves of bread and baskets of fish?

I'd guess that somebody wrote the truth: "Obama drew 23,000 people in 2008, draws 18,000 fewer people this year", and it was (deliberately?) misinterpreted.

6 posted on 09/23/2012 8:18:30 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: profit_guy

ABC radio “news” top-of-the-hour led off with what sounded like a Super Bowl crowd cheering a touchdown.. and the ABC employee enthused something like “People in Wisconsin cheer PRESIDENT! Obama in Ryan’s home state.”


7 posted on 09/23/2012 8:27:06 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: profit_guy

Thats how they count votes too...5000 voters show up, Obama magically gets 18,000 votes


8 posted on 09/23/2012 8:31:01 AM PDT by wny
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To: profit_guy

Glenn Beck had a thing in D.C. a couple summers ago and about 9 or 10 people showed up according to the lamestream media.

I hope Romney refuses to hold any press conferences that include the lefty media. Whoever his spokesmouth is should scan the room and say “You, New York Times, hit the bricks. You, Chicag-hole Trib, outta here. You, L.A. Slimes, no Khalidi tape, no press pass.” and keep going through the room until every 0bama/Klinton knee-pad-wearer is ejected. Then speak to the few press people that are left.


9 posted on 09/23/2012 8:37:17 AM PDT by Two Kids' Dad
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The media flak chuckers protecting Obama pine for the old days..

With the money and the effort spent by the "jounalists", Madison Avenue and Hollywood a ham sandwich could have been elected president in 2008 -- and it would have had a majority of the Islamist vote!

This is supposed to be a real photo from Oregon in 2008.. maybe this was one of those times when rock bands were there and everything was free. There is something really sick about Election 2008 shenanigans and crowds like that.

10 posted on 09/23/2012 8:44:57 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: profit_guy

Does is surprise you the national media is saying it was 18K when the damn amphitheater only holds 5K? They’re all in the tank.


11 posted on 09/23/2012 8:47:48 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: profit_guy

Look like Obama and the media use the same math.


12 posted on 09/23/2012 8:51:06 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: snarkytart

The other part they don’t mention is how many of that crowd are union folks bussed in.

My cell phone number evidently used to belong to a union guy. So back about ten years ago, I’d always get these recorded phone messages telling me all the locations where I could show up to get a free meal and free bus to take me to Jim Doyle’s (former Lefty WI Gov) rally or appearance somewhere.

I don’t recall the messages telling me I’d get paid for going, but there were always plenty of freebies and they made it ridiculously easy to go to these things.


13 posted on 09/23/2012 8:53:54 AM PDT by SteveAustin
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To: profit_guy

The left wing media is Obama’s Ministry of Propaganda. They are all filthy lying scum, but they are also their own undoing, because the American people are wise to their dishonesty and are tuning out in droves.


14 posted on 09/23/2012 8:55:24 AM PDT by Astronaut
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To: profit_guy

Nice work and documentation.
One of the worst “NEWS” outlet is FOX RADIO “news”. Actually they are one of Obama’s Premiere press release outlets. They have been running the AOBAMAS voice excerpts for years whether the comments are newsworthy or simply the regular Obama hip-hop-rap platitudes. This morning I heard the FOX RADIO report on the 18,000 crowd in Milwaukee.
As the FR posting indicates the critical point is :
BMO Harris Pavilion where the man-with-out a father performed last night.

Thanks,for the enlightenment.


15 posted on 09/23/2012 8:59:16 AM PDT by BilLies (The Progressive Liberal American Press will be the death of freedom in this country.)
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To: profit_guy

If Romney and Ryan do not start harping more and more about how their first order of business will be to REPEAL OBAMACARE (remember that?) THEY MAY LOSE


16 posted on 09/23/2012 9:13:37 AM PDT by Mr. K (Washington is where good ideas go to die- Ronald Reagan)
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To: SteveAustin

Oh of course they always bus in union members to fill up crowds when dems speak.


17 posted on 09/23/2012 9:23:37 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

“Does is surprise you the national media is saying it was 18K when the damn amphitheater only holds 5K? They’re all in the tank.”

Is the national media is using Code?

What is a blivet?
18,000 DemoRats in a 5,000 seat stadium, piled three and four layers thick.


18 posted on 09/23/2012 9:55:08 AM PDT by BilLies (The Progressive Liberal American Press will be the death of freedom in this country.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

This is supposed to be a real photo from Oregon in 2008.. maybe this was one of those times when rock bands were there and everything was free. There is something really sick about Election 2008 shenanigans and crowds like that.

Another BS Obama crowd photo that I believe is from the same Oregon event. A doctored media photo from 2008. I circled (in 3 different colors) back in 2008 the copy/pasting done over and over again.

Check out the duplication:


Obama Crowd inflation, Doctored photo?

19 posted on 09/23/2012 10:04:14 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

While I bet there was doctoring, your photo observations are definitively not proof. There’s not the duplication there.


20 posted on 09/23/2012 10:06:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Gingers have no souls.)
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To: Lazamataz

I disagree. Looks too dang similar.


21 posted on 09/23/2012 10:10:28 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
I disagree with your disagreement.

On this, we can agree.

22 posted on 09/23/2012 10:14:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Gingers have no souls.)
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To: profit_guy
What Barack Obama’s crowd actually looked like What 18,000 people looks like


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23 posted on 09/23/2012 10:15:33 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
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To: Lazamataz

It looks to my eye as if they have copied and pasted sections of the crowd in the rear..

After looking at the circles closely, look away from the photo, then loot at the back for the repeating pattern of white shirts. About three or four similar patterns of color repeated across.


24 posted on 09/23/2012 10:18:40 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: Lazamataz

I didn’t circle everything that is weird with that photo. There’s more there. They likely used the photo editor tools like smudge, et al to fool.


25 posted on 09/23/2012 10:22:22 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

I’m quite familiar with Photoshop, and it does not appear that the Cloning Tool (nor Healing Tool) was used in your examples.


26 posted on 09/23/2012 10:30:37 AM PDT by profit_guy
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To: Red Steel

i.e. I don’t see any duplication.


27 posted on 09/23/2012 10:32:10 AM PDT by profit_guy
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To: profit_guy

So the photo looks totally legit to you?


28 posted on 09/23/2012 10:34:07 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

I hate to say it, but yes.

However, I don’t see the same result for Obama as in 2008.


29 posted on 09/23/2012 10:47:31 AM PDT by profit_guy
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To: profit_guy

Is the depth of field consistent in the photo to what is expected from front to back throughout the picture? I’m not so sure about that.


30 posted on 09/23/2012 10:56:22 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

The depth of field is fine too. I checked it by cloning a ‘typical head’ in the middle of the crowd, and compared it to a ‘typical head’ at the back of the crowd.

I’m not saying I trust Dems whatsoever, but this pic appears legit - and it was 2008 afterall.


31 posted on 09/23/2012 11:25:38 AM PDT by profit_guy
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To: profit_guy
Obama definitely had a big crowd there in 08, but many people were still convinced of photo manipulation by the press to deceive.

Obama in a sea of people - creative editing from the folks at AP.NY Times, Salem News, KPIC ^ | 5/18/2008 | Larry Rohter
Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2008 9:28:27 PM by xDGx

32 posted on 09/23/2012 12:07:51 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Yes I see what you mean. You know I see every now and then that a newspaper fires a photographer for doctoring a photo.. but you never see where the newspaper’s “reporters” are fired for doctoring a news story or doctoring the news by spiking a story that the newspaper does not like.


33 posted on 09/23/2012 4:54:05 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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