Skip to comments.Houston police shoot double amputee
Posted on 09/23/2012 10:04:45 AM PDT by JohnKinAK
A Houston police officer shot and killed a schizophrenic, wheelchair-bound double amputee threatening people with a pen at a group home for the mentally ill after authorities said the man advanced on the officer's partner.
The shooting occurred early Saturday morning after police responded to a call that resident Brian Claunch was acting aggressively after his caretaker refused to give him a cigarette and a soda, the owner of the home and police said.
"The officers made verbal commands for the suspect to drop whatever he had in his hand, to stay still and to speak with the officers, but the suspect continued to make threats," Jodi Silva, a police spokeswoman, said.
Claunch, who lost an arm and a leg in a train accident, trapped one of the officers with his wheelchair in the corner of a room and attempted to stab the officer with an object that turned out to be a pen.
Officer Matt Marin, "in fear of the safety of his partner and the safety of himself, discharges his duty weapon, striking the suspect," Silva said.
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Given that they name the officer who shot the double-amputee but not the one who was ‘trapped’ by the double-amputee, I’m betting that the unnamed officer was a woman.
This should help the staff of the group home, keep the patients in line.
Shut your mouth or we will call the police, remember what happened to Brian.
Did they kill his dog as well?
Christ! it is a good thing these ‘Houston Deputies’ were in possession of fire arms. They would not be able to survive out on their own otherwise.They would be at the mercy of every elementary school aged girls that wanted to pick on them. They would have to be kept in their respective homes and carefully protected by anyone else with a little cojones and backbone.
The officer could not get away from a guy in a wheelchair, armed only with a pen? cornered? feared for his life? What?was he screaming like a little girl.
take foot, place on wheelchair and push. Chair fall over or rolls away. Situation resolved without loss of life.
This sounds to me to be an extreme case of cowardise or he really wanted to kill someone, anyone.
The cop knew that a pen is mightier than a sword. Or he feared to be run over by the wheelchair.
It’s a dangerous world.
Another account here:
Unclear, but seems to suggest the cornered “officer” was a “he”.
Just give him the damned cigarette and a soda for God's sake. This is just pure meanness by the caretaker.
He trapped one of the officers in the corner???? WHAT?
Now he's dead, just because he only wanted a damned cigarette and a soda? How hard is it to satisfy that wee little desire?
WE HAVE A WIN-N-N-A-A-H-H-H-H-H-HH!!!!
The cop will be defended by the chief and his union. Unbelievable how far this country’s police forces have fallen over the last couple of decades.
As I said on another forum:
The ideal of the Texas Ranger is dead. Todays badge carrying pansies keep sayng “The most important thing is to go home at the end of your shift”; right before they tase an eighty year old bedridden granny.
These stories don’t attract as many cop groupie apologists as they used to. Occasionally one will pop up, but not like a few years ago.
What next? shooting someone who is unconscious because they snore aggressively?
I’d like to hear the other side of the story. How out of control was the mentally ill schizophrenic? Was the officer pinned against the wall by the wheelchair? I don’t know - there is more story here, yet, and I am waiting to see.
Was Joe Pesci involved ala “Casino”?
What a brave, brave man who blew away a dangerous homicidal maniac who was wielding a .45 caliber ball point pen. Give that man a medal for valor, a raise, and a lifetime pension. He’s a credit to his union.
Any police officer sent on a call is empowered to shoot one or more living mammals. it is in their training and rules. If there is a dog present then the dog must be shot and shooting a person besides might invite a raised eyebrow at headquarters. This keeps the officers in practice for when the orders come down to confiscate all civilian owned weaponry and arrest all enemies of the state by name or by category.
The officer will be punished by several weeks of involuntary paid vacation after which there will be a ceremony and a Heroism citation.
Beat me to it...was gonna ask if he had a service dog.
Yeah, like having another officer grab the handles of the wheelchair and back him out.
But it’s so much easier to squeeze a trigger.
Who’s really gonna miss a worthless, crazy cripple, anyway?
Remember Clinton’s push to put 100,000 more cops on the street and standards were lowered to achieve it. This is the result.
It was a wheelchair, not a Hummer.
There weren’t any dogs that’s why they killed him.
It's easy to criticize when you have the benefit of hindsight.
What effing other side to the story? This was a double amputee in a wheelchair with a pen.
No excuses; no justifications. This was murder by doughnut-eating dog-killers wearing government costumes.
This would be as funny as Monty Python’s Black Knight skit if it weren’t so tragic.
Id like to hear the other side of the story. How out of control was the mentally ill schizophrenic? Was the officer pinned against the wall by the wheelchair? I dont know - there is more story here, yet, and I am waiting to see.
Something tells me that this may not be the first time LEOs had to deal with this person
A schizophrenic. Wow... Talk about your “death panels,” this one’s was led by Judge Dredd!
You beat me to it.
When I read extreme stories like this, I can’t help but reflect that I worked as a guard in a state penitentiary in medium security for a year and a half, and as a bouncer in a club in Tampa for two years, I was never armed, and I only had one incident where I ever had to pop anybody, one shot to the adam’s apple was enough to stop an aggressive bar patron’s advance long enough to grab him by collar and belt and take him out the door...and I was hauling them out every night.
These incidents with dogs and people sound like a vast number of LEO’s are untrained, unsure of themselves, unable to think under pressure, and are relying on aggressive bluster, numbers, steroids, and finally bullets to overcome their inadequacies.
IMO the dog holocaust is easy to explain. Dogs smell fear. A fearful, insecure officer who’s using loud bluster to cover it, is going to set off an alarm bell with any house dog worth his salt. The fearful officer thinks stepping back, stepping aside, asking the owner to control the dog, or even waiting for one minute, is the act of a pussy. So let’s let Officer Berretta do the thinking.
There are other officers, many with military backgrounds, and they are is easy to spot because their brain is fully engaged. The next time you see a group of officers on a scene, look for yourself and see which one is the anchor to steady the college students...you’ll be able to tell pretty easily. Sometimes these “anchors” already have their hands full with one problem officer, who they can’t get rid of, or won’t get rid of. I had a neighbor and hunting buddy who was in the highway patrol, and one of his coworkers was nicknamed “Psycho”. Save that story for another day, but needless to say, they spent a considerable fraction of their time trying to keep him from making the papers.
I’m an expert on nothing, just giving my view from the cheap seats.
"trapped one of the officers with his wheelchair...attempted to stab the officer with an object..."
It wasn't the trapped officer who shot, it was their partner, who had apparently just entered the room to find their partner trapped in a corner by the guy in the wheelchair, who had something in his hand, and was acting as though he intended to stab the other officer with it. He acted to prevent his partner from getting stabbed (or so he thought). Yes the outcome sucks, but the options for preventing a stabbing when the assailant has closed to within reach of their intended victim are limited, to say the least.
How many of you have heard of the 21 ft rule?
Gimme a break.
The guy had ONE arm and ONE leg.
You put your foot on the chair and give it a good shove.
You sure are sounding rather agitated over this in defense of a bad shooting.
How many of you have heard of the 21 ft rule?
I have heard of it. Does that apply to one-armed guys in wheel chairs? Did he have a Tim Allen supercharged chair? ROTFLMAO
In fact it was a little bit frightening.
You're kidding right?
I'm not agitated at all. In fact I see more agitation from those of you who are rushing to condemn this shooting based solely on sketchy reports put out by the news media. Me, I can see both sides.
If I'm within "inches to a foot" of you (as per reports), I bet I can connect with whatever is in my hand faster than you can push me away, wheelchair or no.
Speaking of seeing both sides that brings up a question I have. Cop 1 is in a corner. Guy in wheelchair has him backed into it. Cop 2 must have been behind wheelchair. Can someone help me with the geometry of the line of fire here? LOL
Now you’re saying that the ‘21 ft. rule’ was a non-sequitur with no relevance to this situation!?! I take it you only threw that in as a deflection from any sober analysis of the situation then.
Post 29 and post 39 are both in defense of an obviously bad shooting.
If the cop couldn’t defend themself from a guy in a wheelchair who had only ONE arm and ONE leg (That’s 1 as in singular you know, right?) then why are they a cop anyway?
And you are trying to justify it with “Oh, they were trapped.”
Seriously, give me a break.
All the cop had to do was grab the (single, one, 1) leg and pull it upwards, tip the guy over, and his (single, one, 1) arm waving would have been done.
One legged man at an arse kicking contest anyone?
And they have batons still, right?
A huge Maglite?
This could have been over in so many other ways, quickly and without death.
But hey, those assault wheelchairs are just so dangerous and need to be banned.