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US Prepares for Riots, Buys 1.2 Billion Bullets
Israel National News ^ | 9/19/2012 | Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

Posted on 09/23/2012 11:45:30 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta

U.S. Homeland Security is preparing for an all-out “American Spring” rebellion and has bought 1.2 billion bullets for counterterrorist snipers.

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“It is the type of ammunition and not necessarily the quantity that is troubling,” James Smith Prepper Podcast was quoted as saying.

“All of the sniper grade ammunition is being used by trained, or in-the-process-of-being-trained snipers,” wrote Smith. Adding up the number of lethal bullets tallies a potential 135,384 kills for the snipers, based on U.S. Army and Marine figures from the Vietnam War, when soldiers used 1.3 rounds of ammunition for each verified kill.

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1 posted on 09/23/2012 11:45:34 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Or maybe they are just looking over their shoulders. As they should be.


2 posted on 09/23/2012 11:47:32 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Since when is .40 JHP considered 'sniper grade'?

/johnny

3 posted on 09/23/2012 11:52:10 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: unixfox

let’s see...we have local out of control cops, we have county sheriffs, we have Fema, we have TSA agents with untold power to stop and search you and your property at will apparently, and we have Homeland security....add in a miltary controlled by a narcissistic arrogant dictator.....


4 posted on 09/23/2012 11:54:03 AM PDT by cherry
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

A policeman in my neighborhood said the same thing. They are loading up on ammo in his department just in case. Let’s just say I am already ready for any thuggery that comes my way on November 7 or there after. I will not be out looking for problems or causing problems but will not shy away either to protect my family and property. I suggest to others on this forum be prepared. I know some of you are probably ahead of me on that front.


5 posted on 09/23/2012 11:56:15 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: JRandomFreeper
So is this ammo for their Ak 47's?

6 posted on 09/23/2012 11:59:10 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Must be. At least it's not for those 40mm automatic pistols that the press talks about.

/johnny

7 posted on 09/23/2012 12:00:21 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cherry

Don’t forget the IRS, FBI, CPS, and a litany of alphabet agencies hell bent on destroying every bit of freedom we have left.


8 posted on 09/23/2012 12:00:52 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Bullets? Not cartridges?


9 posted on 09/23/2012 12:02:24 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: JRandomFreeper

.308 JHP boattail is sniper Ammo.

Illegal for warfare due to the Geneva Convention, but when your a Marxist, and bent on killing your own people, the Geneva Convention does not apply, so I guess its ok?


10 posted on 09/23/2012 12:02:37 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

When the SNAP cards won’t swipe anymore, riots will follow. The questions is who will these snipers target? The rioters or the “Wealthy” trying to defend their property.

In this case, the “Wealthy” would be defined as people who have something worth defending against the Looters.


11 posted on 09/23/2012 12:02:44 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Whether Obama wins or loses in November, I expect violence to sweep the land after the election.


12 posted on 09/23/2012 12:02:48 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I do also. I believe we have crossed a tipping point.


13 posted on 09/23/2012 12:07:31 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Could be preparation for an imminent economic collapse.


14 posted on 09/23/2012 12:09:45 PM PDT by MNDude ( Victimhood is the Holy Grail of liberalism)
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To: American in Israel
I heard the ammo was .40JHP, not .308. You have any info that might correct my impression?

/johnny

15 posted on 09/23/2012 12:10:03 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: American in Israel

A) It’s not illegal because it doesn’t expand.
B) It’s not the Geneva Convention that makes expanding bullets illegal, it’s the Hague Convention of 1899.

That notwithstanding, it, and other tidbits of information that have escaped recently reveal disturbing thoughts in the minds of our would-be masters.


16 posted on 09/23/2012 12:10:25 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

It’s some of each, the bulk being .40 and 5.56x45.


17 posted on 09/23/2012 12:12:05 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Check the bang list for previous threads - there have been procurements of pistol and rifle ammo.


18 posted on 09/23/2012 12:13:34 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Ummm. Never considered my SIG 229 in 40 cal a sniper weapon. But then again, what do I know after spending my entire adult life in the military.
19 posted on 09/23/2012 12:15:07 PM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: unixfox

Exactly. I’ve never understood the hysteria over all the “government buying bullets” stories - and I’m as untrusting of government as they come. I hope they buy them and leave them in storage indefinitely just to watch the heads of panicmongers everywhere explode.


20 posted on 09/23/2012 12:19:15 PM PDT by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, Forever in Rebellion.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta; mickie
If the government plants and fertilizes the thought of revolution and street riots in the minds of the lumpen proletariat, there WILL be revolution and riots in the streets.

If this happens, talk about a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Like the mother who goes next door for a minute and tells her son, "Now, sweetie, don't put M & M's up your nose while I'm gone."

Leni

21 posted on 09/23/2012 12:19:53 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: DuncanWaring
5.56x45 ain't .308.

Most of what I've heard of in bulk has been .40JHP.

/johnny

22 posted on 09/23/2012 12:21:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

What I recall hearing is hundreds-of-millions of rounds of .40 and 5.56x45, 140,000 rounds of 7.62x51.

Thought I’d seen you on some of the threads discussing those orders/purchases.


23 posted on 09/23/2012 12:23:47 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ladyjane

I’ve pointed out before that bullets by themselves are pretty worthless. I still haven’t seen a story say they are ordering cartridges.


24 posted on 09/23/2012 12:23:51 PM PDT by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, Forever in Rebellion.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Thought I’d seen you on some of the threads discussing those orders/purchases.

Well, yeah... ;)

I like to know what my government is up to. It's like a spoiled child you have to keep an eye on.

/johnny

25 posted on 09/23/2012 12:26:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: arderkrag

Remember the newspaper headline:

“Bullets are flying off the shelves”

LOL


26 posted on 09/23/2012 12:29:51 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Hmmm! I wonder whether President You Didn’t Build That might be considering having the EPA declare lead illegal to use in bullets.


27 posted on 09/23/2012 12:32:09 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

HSD and various government agencies buy bullets.

However, many military, border guards, and overseas security only get rubber bullets or beanbags.

It would seem that this administration is more fearful of the citizenry than they are of Mexican drug cartels, al Qaeda and militant Islamic factions.


28 posted on 09/23/2012 12:34:14 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: American in Israel

“308 JHP boattail is sniper Ammo.”

That is also a target round. I personally like the Nosler ballistic tips in my .308 for long range work, but prefer my 30-338 loaded with Hornady BTSPs at 2994 fps for work over 800 meters.

I question the 1.3 rounds per kill in Vietnam, and I seriously doubt that many of our LEOs can equal range stats once they take return fire.


29 posted on 09/23/2012 12:41:49 PM PDT by Big_Harry (Ecc10:2 "A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left")
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To: TomGuy
It would seem that this administration is more fearful of the citizenry than they are of Mexican drug cartels, al Qaeda and militant Islamic factions.

We are, after all, more dangerous. ;)

/johnny

30 posted on 09/23/2012 12:45:54 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: MNDude

0bama said on Letterman that the debt was not a problem short term,so we absolutely know that zero will continue his unrestrained spending via no budgets and EOs if re-elected. To avoid default, we will have even more debt monetization and rampant inflation of staple items will ensue despite economic contraction. The EBT cards won’t pay for squat when food prices skyrocket.


31 posted on 09/23/2012 12:47:07 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Assuming for just a moment that their may still remain a single honest America loving journalist in the USA, why have I not heard a questions posed to that obama puppet during the daily news briefings as to the reason for these ammunition purchases?

Seems like a simply logical question and I would love to hear their answer.


32 posted on 09/23/2012 12:54:52 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
All of the sniper grade ammunition is being used by trained, or in-the-process-of-being-trained snipers,” wrote Smith.

Since the subject has been broached – which ‘Civilian’ versions of the various bolt action rifles on the market are considered to be good for that particular task as well as for hunting?

Just in case someone wanted to round out their collection with a sniper/hunting type weapon while we still can buy them…

33 posted on 09/23/2012 12:55:42 PM PDT by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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To: ladyjane

Lol, somebody has a lot of loading to do!


34 posted on 09/23/2012 1:06:28 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I was wondering the same thing about the calibers, but I guess if you look at the possible kill number and the multiplier of 1.3, then they’re talking about a small subset of the 1.2 billion rounds of ammo.


35 posted on 09/23/2012 1:09:00 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: rbg81

Why would SNAP cards stop working? EMP attack?


36 posted on 09/23/2012 1:16:16 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

It’s the 400 million rounds of 168 gr HPBT .308 that is sniper grade.


37 posted on 09/23/2012 1:22:44 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Voice of Reason88

which ‘Civilian’ versions of the various bolt action rifles on the market are considered to be good for that particular task as well as for hunting?
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Basically anything bolt action .30 cal or higher with a decent scope will do nicely ... The un-pc answer is to acquire one from someone that is assuming room temp.

http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?ic=16_0&search_query=rifle+308

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=13384928


38 posted on 09/23/2012 1:26:40 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: JRandomFreeper
from the article...

An additional 200 million bullets are to be purchased, according to Infowars.com writer and author Paul Joseph Watson.

The new purchase is for .223 rifle ammunition, plus another 176,000 rounds of .308 caliber 168 grain hollow point boat tail (HPBT) rounds in addition to 25,000 rounds of blank .308 caliber bullets.

39 posted on 09/23/2012 1:27:01 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

fl


40 posted on 09/23/2012 1:27:53 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does....)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

We’re still maintaining little hardened buildings all over rural America built during WWI, known as “magazines”. The thought was to scatter the ammo and high explosives so it wouldn’t all go up at once. I’ve oftened wondered why they are still there, being constantly maintained and upgraded.

I know where several are within an hour’s drive of my house. Little, square, unmanned buildings whose missions have changed.


41 posted on 09/23/2012 1:31:50 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: JRandomFreeper

It’s the 176,000 rounds of 168 gr HPBT .308 that is sniper grade. Wrong quantity. Correct cartridge.


42 posted on 09/23/2012 1:34:46 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Voice of Reason88

Remington 700 series.

Almost as good are the Savage bolt actions.

I’ve been wanting a .308 for a long time now. Maybe I’ll pick one up off the battlefield.

In the meantime, I’ve got my old $90 M91/30 Mosin Nagant in 7.62 x 54R that is quite proficient out to 200 yards with bare sights.


43 posted on 09/23/2012 1:44:16 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: Chode
in addition to 25,000 rounds of blank .308 caliber bullets.

Wonder what that's for?

/johnny

44 posted on 09/23/2012 1:54:02 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
FREEDOM CANCELLED

EVERYTHING'S FREE BUT US


45 posted on 09/23/2012 1:56:26 PM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

You can bet the Rules Of Engagement will be a lot looser here than they are in Muzzie Land.


46 posted on 09/23/2012 1:57:02 PM PDT by Iron Munro (US Embassies Come and Go But An Obama Apology Lasts Forever)
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To: JRandomFreeper
damn good question, once upon a time rifle grenades needed a blank for launching but not anymore so...
47 posted on 09/23/2012 2:09:06 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Jack Black

If the Government ever really went bankrupt.


48 posted on 09/23/2012 2:10:03 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Voice of Reason88
“All of the sniper grade ammunition is being used by trained, or in-the-process-of-being-trained snipers,”

Exactly who is it inside the US borders that the snipers are being trained to kill with the millions of rounds of ammo the government has purchased?

Weren't the Ruby Ridge and Waco lessons in government overreaction enough?

We already have far too many Gestapo style, Police State invasions of homes, shooting innocent people and their pets, and carrying on like terrorists and storm troopers right in their own communities.


49 posted on 09/23/2012 2:12:15 PM PDT by Iron Munro (US Embassies Come and Go But An Obama Apology Lasts Forever)
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To: American in Israel

Not illegal, for many reasons.
We didn’t sign the Geneva Convention, though do adhere as a matter of convention and deviate where appropriate.
JHP isn’t banned by the Convention, though is oft confused with “dum-dum” bullets which are.
BTHP (which these are) resemble JHP but differ in that the HP is a consequence of manufacture, not a deliberate design feature; this is excused.


50 posted on 09/23/2012 2:12:42 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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