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Does 1979 newspaper column shed light on 2008 campaign story? (Obama funding)
Daily Inter Lake ^ | Septwmber 22, 2012 | Frank Miele

Posted on 09/23/2012 3:07:39 PM PDT by CutePuppy

Searching old newspapers is one of my favorite pastimes, and I have tried to use them many times to shed light on current events - or to inform readers about how the past is prologue to our very interesting present-day quandaries.

Recently, I came across a syndicated column from November 1979 that seemed to point 30 years into the future toward an obscure campaign issue that arose briefly in the 2008 presidential campaign.

Though by no means definitive, it provides an interesting insight, at least, into how Chicago politics intersected with the black power movement and Middle Eastern money at a certain point in time. Whether it has any greater relevance to the 2012 presidential campaign, I will allow the reader to decide. In order to accomplish that, I will also take the unusual step of providing footnotes and the end of this column so that each of you can do the investigative work for yourself.

The column itself had appeared in the St. Petersburg (Fla.) Evening Independent of Nov. 6, but it was the work of a veteran newspaperman who at the time was working for the prestigious Chicago Tribune and whose work was syndicated nationally. (1)

So far as I know, this 1979 column has not previously been brought to light, but it certainly should be because it broke some very interesting news about the "rumored billions of dollars the oil-rich Arab nations are supposed to unload on American black leaders and minority institutions." The columnist quoted a black San Francisco lawyer who said, "It's not just a rumor. Aid will come from some of the Arab states."

Well, if anyone would know, it would have been this lawyer - Donald Warden, who had helped defend OPEC in an antitrust suit that year and had developed significant ties with the Saudi royal family since becoming a Muslim and taking the name Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour.

Al-Mansour told Jarrett that he had presented the "proposed special aid program to OPEC Secretary-General Rene Ortiz" in September 1979, and that "the first indications of Arab help to American blacks may be announced in December." Maybe so, but I looked high and wide in newspapers in 1979 and 1980 for any other stories about this aid package funded by OPEC and never found it verified.

You would think that a program to spend "$20 million per year for 10 years to aid 10,000 minority students each year, including blacks, Arabs, Hispanics, Asians and native Americans" would be referred to somewhere other than one obscure 1979 column, but I haven't found any other word of it.

Maybe the funding materialized, maybe it didn't, but what's particularly noteworthy is that this black Islamic lawyer who "for several years [had] urged the rich Arab kingdoms to cultivate stronger ties to America's blacks by supporting black businesses and black colleges and giving financial help to disadvantaged students" was also the same lawyer who allegedly helped arrange for the entrance of Barack Obama into Harvard Law School in 1988.

That tale had surfaced in 2008 when Barack Obama was a candidate for president and one of the leading black politicians in the country - Percy Sutton of New York - told an interviewer on a Manhattan TV news show that he had been introduced to Obama "by a friend who was raising money for him. The friend's name is Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, from Texas. He is the principal adviser to one of the world's richest men. He told me about Obama." (2)

This peculiar revelation engendered a small hubbub in 2008, but was quickly dismissed by the Obama campaign as the ditherings of a senile old man. I don't believe President Obama himself ever denied the story personally, and no one has explained how Sutton came up with this elaborate story about Khalid al-Mansour if it had no basis in fact, and in any case al-Mansour no longer denies it. (3)

Back in 2008, while actually supporting Hillary Clinton in the New York primary, Percy Sutton was interviewed on TV and said that he thought Barack Obama was nonetheless quite impressive. He also revealed that he had first heard about Obama 20 years previously in a letter where al-Mansour wrote, "there is a young man that has applied to Harvard. I know that you have a few friends up there because you used to go up there to speak. Would you please write a letter in support of him?"

Sutton concluded in the interview, "I wrote a letter of support of him to my friends at Harvard, saying to them I thought there was a genius that was going to be available and I certainly hoped they would treat him kindly."

Until now, there really has been no context within which to understand the Sutton story or to buttress it as a reliable account other than the reputation of Sutton himself as one of the top leaders of the black community in Manhattan - himself a noted attorney, businessman and politician. But the new discovery of the 1979 column that established Khalid al-Mansour's interest in creating a fund to give "financial help to disadvantaged students" does provide a clue that he might indeed - along with his patron, Arab Prince Alwaleed bin Talal - have taken an interest in the "genius" Barack Obama.

It also might be considered more than coincidence that the author of that 1979 newspaper column was from Chicago, where Barack Obama settled in 1986 a few years after his stint at Columbia University. It is certainly surprising that the author of that column was none other than Vernon Jarrett, the future (and later former) father-in-law of Valerie Jarrett, who ultimately became the consigliatore of the Obama White House.

It is also noteworthy that Vernon Jarrett was one of the best friends and a colleague of Frank Marshall Davis, the former Chicago journalist and lifelong communist who moved to Hawaii in the late 1940s and years later befriended Stanley and Madelyn Dunham and their daughter Stanley Ann, the mother of Barack Obama. (4)

And to anyone who has the modicum of a spark of curiosity, it is surely intriguing that Frank Davis took an active role in the rearing of young Barack from the age of 10 until he turned 18 and left Hawaii for his first year of college at Occidental College in Los Angeles. (5)

It is also at least suggestive that Obama began that college education as a member of the highly international student body of Occidental College in 1979, the same year when Vernon Jarrett was touting the college aid program being funded by OPEC and possibly Prince Alwaleed. The fact that President Obama has studiously avoided releasing records of his college years is suggestive also, but has no evidentiary value in the present discussion. (6)

The nature of Vernon Jarrett's relationship to Khalid al-Mansour is likewise uncertain, but it is very likely they had known each other as leaders of the black civil-rights movement for many years. Under his previous name of Donald Warden, al-Mansour had founded the African American Association in the Bay Area in the early 1960s. He had also helped inspire the Black Panther Party through his association with black-power leaders such as Huey Newton and Bobby Seale. Seale, of course, had a famous association with Chicago later, when he was part of the Chicago Eight charged with conspiracy and inciting to riot at the Democratic National Convention in 1968. (7)

In any case, it doesn't matter if Vernon Jarrett and Khalid al-Mansour had a personal relationship or not. For some reason, al-Mansour had used Jarrett as the messenger to get out the word about his efforts to funnel Arab oil money to black students and minority colleges at about the same time that Barack Obama began his college career. That doesn't mean either Jarrett or al-Mansour knew Obama at that time, but eight years later when Obama was a rising star in Chicago, a friend of Bill Ayers and Valerie Jarrett, it is much more likely that he did indeed have the assistance of very important people in his meteoric rise. The words of Percy Sutton about what al-Mansour told him regarding Obama certainly have the ring of truth:

"His introduction was there is a young man that has applied to Harvard. I know that you have a few friends back there... Would you please write a letter in support of him? (That's before Obama decided to run.) ... and he interjected the advice that Obama had passed the requirements, had taken and passed the requirements necessary to get into Harvard and become president of the Law Review. That's before he ever ran for anything. And I wrote a letter in support of him to my friends at Harvard, saying to them that I thought there was a genius that was going to be available and I certainly hoped they would treat him kindly..." (2)

What possible significance could all this have? We may never know, but Vernon Jarrett, back in 1979, thought that OPEC's intention to fund black and minority education would have huge political ramifications. As Jarrett wrote:

"The question of financial aid from the Arabs could raise a few extremely interesting questions both inside and outside the black community. If such contributions are large and sustained, the money angle may become secondary to the sociology and politics of such an occurrence." (1)

He was, of course, right.

As Jarrett suggests, any black institutions and presumably individuals who became beholden to Arab money might be expected to continue the trend of American "new black advocacy for a homeland for the Palestinians" and presumably for other Islamic and Arabic interests in the Middle East. For that reason, if for no other, the question of how President Obama's college education was funded is of considerably more than academic interest.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1979; almansour; alwaleed; arabmoney; arabs; bigoil; donaldwarden; environmentalism; environmentalists; frankdavis; frankmarshalldavis; frankmiele; hillary; jarrett; khalidalmansour; miele; obama; obamabio; obamaconnections; oilindustry; palestinians; sleeper; sleepernetwork; sleepers; valeriejarrett; vernonjarrett
Frank Miele is managing editor of the Daily Inter Lake

This is interesting on several levels, and may explain the sources and the secrecy behind funding and education of Barack Obama and other "sleepers" in Democratic political networks (and possibly in Republican politics as well.)

And so much about the lies about the Republicans and "oil money" and oil industry, where conservative / libertarian Republicans are generally looking to have a free market for energy and lower oil prices to the benefit of other industries and consumers, while actions of Democrats usually lead to much higher oil (and other energy) prices, which for the most part benefits Arabs and Russia at the expense of American businesses and consumers - Carter, Clinton and Obama hiding behind the "environmental" agenda is case in point.

1 posted on 09/23/2012 3:07:46 PM PDT by CutePuppy
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To: mkjessup; Lakeshark; onyx; sf4dubya; exit82; stephenjohnbanker
Interesting find here:

Until now, there really has been no context within which to understand the Sutton story or to buttress it as a reliable account other than the reputation of Sutton himself as one of the top leaders of the black community in Manhattan - himself a noted attorney, businessman and politician. But the new discovery of the 1979 column that established Khalid al-Mansour's interest in creating a fund to give "financial help to disadvantaged students" does provide a clue that he might indeed - along with his patron, Arab Prince Alwaleed bin Talal - have taken an interest in the "genius" Barack Obama.

It also might be considered more than coincidence that the author of that 1979 newspaper column was from Chicago, where Barack Obama settled in 1986 a few years after his stint at Columbia University. It is certainly surprising that the author of that column was none other than Vernon Jarrett, the future (and later former) father-in-law of Valerie Jarrett, who ultimately became the consigliatore of the Obama White House.


2 posted on 09/23/2012 3:14:02 PM PDT by nicmarlo (I'll Take the Mormon Over the MORON)
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To: Nachum

Possible article to add to your list?


3 posted on 09/23/2012 3:14:47 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: CutePuppy

A lot of circumstantial evidence of political maneuverings to get the Manchurian ( Muslim) candidate into office.


4 posted on 09/23/2012 3:19:46 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: LucyT; null and void; Brown Deer

Interesting.

Ping worthy?


5 posted on 09/23/2012 3:23:05 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: CutePuppy
Carter, Clinton and Obama The entire democratice party hiding behind the "environmental" agenda is case in point. There I fixed it for you.
6 posted on 09/23/2012 3:23:29 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: CutePuppy
Already posted.
7 posted on 09/23/2012 3:23:58 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

Thanks ConjunctionJunction, good find.

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


8 posted on 09/23/2012 3:24:37 PM PDT by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: CutePuppy

After the oil embargo by the Saudis the crown prince was interviewed (by 60 Minutes, I think) about the effect of the strategy—which had failed. When asked why, the Saudi prince stated that the Israelis had “control” of the US government. The correspondent asked what the Arabs could do and he stated the objective should be to gain control of the US government, not just hire a few lobbyists and have some friendly Congressmen.

We’ve known the Saudis have been funding foreign students in the US for a very long time. The only reason Obama hides his college records is that they are likely to show he enrolled and received aid as a foreign student. So either he is a “foreign student “ and, therefore, not a “natural born citizen” or he has defrauded the universities and lenders to obtain funds. Yet the MSM is not the least bit curious.


9 posted on 09/23/2012 3:31:52 PM PDT by Surfscoter (Surfscoter)
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To: CutePuppy

Are those who know blackmailing Barry?


10 posted on 09/23/2012 3:36:32 PM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: CutePuppy

Good one. Thanks. Worth repeating.


11 posted on 09/23/2012 3:37:54 PM PDT by FARS (Be Healthy, Happy and Thrive)
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To: Nachum

I have attempted a summary here, including link to extraordinary YouTube video:

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/jdaks0

And, yes, article under discussion already here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2935104/posts

While it is not necessarily true that one only takes actions which favor one’s benefactors, it certainly isn’t unheard of!


12 posted on 09/23/2012 3:37:54 PM PDT by Museum Twenty (If every truth & hidden motivation were to tumble out, not one supporter would turn against him.)
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To: CutePuppy

This explains a ton
I well remember the percy sutton interview but it made no sense that a rich arab would help 0dumbo

Now it all fits
and the close ties they all have( jarrett, Mansour, Davis 0dumbo ) is scary

SHAME on the media for not doing their job in 08


13 posted on 09/23/2012 3:41:24 PM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

bump


14 posted on 09/23/2012 3:44:10 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: Museum Twenty

Thanks for the links


15 posted on 09/23/2012 3:47:09 PM PDT by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: rabidralph

Thanks. Somehow missed it in the search (title:newspaper) the first time.


16 posted on 09/23/2012 3:51:27 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

Very interesting material. There are other linkages the author could have added in his research. Paul Kengor’s book “The Communist” explains how the communist party made a concerted effort in the 1930s to recruit black Americans to communism. It was during the “Scottsboro Boys” case that began in 1931 that Frank Marshall Davis began to become active in communism. Seventeen years later (1948), Davis served on the publicity committee of the Citizens’ Committee to Aid Packing-House Workers with communist Vernon Jarrett.

There are just too many coincidences here and intersections of communism with Obama’s entire life.


17 posted on 09/23/2012 3:57:21 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: CutePuppy
I did a search and came up with this...

Who picked up Obama’s tab at Harvard Law?

“Why Obama is mum about Harvard” (Very Curious!)(video)

Obama’s link to Saudi Prince Alwaleed? (video)

18 posted on 09/23/2012 3:58:41 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: Venturer
A lot of circumstantial evidence of political maneuverings to get the Manchurian ( Muslim) candidate into office.

This "game" is never straight and simple - that's exactly why the author is so careful to introduce the facts and the quotes from the "players" themselves.

"... [He] is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known ..." - from Manchurian Candidate (1962)

"Our worst enemies here are not the ignorant and simple... our worst enemies are the intelligent and corrupt" - Henry Graham Greene

19 posted on 09/23/2012 4:02:58 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
He did reference Paul Kengor's article in the Spectator:
4) "All in the (Political) Family," by Paul Kengor - http://spectator.org/archives/2012/08/03/all-in-the-political-family

I think the author was mostly interested in this short essay to let them (Vernon Jarrett, al-Mansour, Percy Sutton et al) speak for themselves re political ascention of otherwise obscure Obama and unveil the links to Arab money funding the "education" of "underclass" in the U.S.

20 posted on 09/23/2012 4:17:14 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

It happens. Besides, you’re a cute puppy so you get a pass.


21 posted on 09/23/2012 4:23:54 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: CutePuppy

bump


22 posted on 09/23/2012 4:38:03 PM PDT by VTenigma
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To: CutePuppy

“Our worst enemies here are not the ignorant and simple... our worst enemies are the intelligent and corrupt”.

When you have intelligent and corrupt Democrats leading the ignorant and simple Democrats you have the Obama 47%.


23 posted on 09/23/2012 4:44:39 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: CutePuppy

The info makes THE BOW before the Saudi King much clearer.


24 posted on 09/23/2012 5:04:27 PM PDT by what's up
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To: RoosterRedux
@"Dark Skies Blog" But Barry ... come on. Do you think Americans are that stupid (again, apparently you do)?

It seems the skies were dark indeed in September of 2008, when even well informed people paid little attention or were afraid to raise the full spectrum of this "racist" issue. And the answer to the [rhetorical] question above is, of course:

"Yes, a large proportion of population - and the one that's getting ever larger - is indeed either stupid or uninformed or acting in what they mistakenly think is their self-interest... or all of the above. Add to that that people aren't always presented with the best choices or candidates and you have the anatomy of societal collapse, as in Idiocracy?"

We've seen enough elections proving the veracity of this point.

25 posted on 09/23/2012 5:05:23 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: RWGinger
SHAME on the media for not doing their job in 08

Maybe the Saudis purchased influence in the media too?


26 posted on 09/23/2012 5:08:41 PM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: Venturer
When you have intelligent and corrupt Democrats leading the ignorant and simple Democrats you have the Obama 47%.

Exactly. In some countries, like Greece that had a three-decade socialist party rule, or Spain which had only seven years, it's a lot more than half the population.

27 posted on 09/23/2012 5:11:54 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

I remember Vernon Jarret from my days in Chicago. While pleasant and polite, he held truly extreme leftist views.


28 posted on 09/23/2012 5:12:42 PM PDT by cookcounty (Kagan and Sotomayor side with Joe Wilson: -------Obama DID lie!)
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To: zot; Interesting Times; SeraphimApprentice

note the main characters in this 1979 article:

It also might be considered more than coincidence that the author of that 1979 newspaper column was from Chicago, where Barack Obama settled in 1986 a few years after his stint at Columbia University. It is certainly surprising that the author of that column was none other than Vernon Jarrett, the future (and later former) father-in-law of Valerie Jarrett, who ultimately became the consigliatore of the Obama White House.

It is also noteworthy that Vernon Jarrett was one of the best friends and a colleague of Frank Marshall Davis, the former Chicago journalist and lifelong communist who moved to Hawaii in the late 1940s and years later befriended Stanley and Madelyn Dunham and their daughter Stanley Ann, the mother of Barack Obama. (4)


29 posted on 09/23/2012 5:43:40 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

Tie obizmal’s mommy working with tax cheat Gheitner’s daddy overseas...it seems etche3d in stone from waaaaay back.


30 posted on 09/23/2012 5:47:51 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: Robert DeLong
“Carter, Clinton and Obama The entire democratice party hiding behind the “environmental” agenda is case in point. There I fixed it for you.”

Let's see.

The Saudis support a child fathered by a Muslim, who has been steeped in Communist dogma.

As early as 1979 Communist in Russia are stating that a young man fitting the above child's upbringing and family history will be elected president and change America. (see Tom Fife's article, “The First Time I Heard of Barak”.

The young radicals of the late 60’s infiltrate the MSM, They now call themselves Progressives and Environmentalists.

The man is supported by the MSM, which hides his background from the American public, and insured election despite running against a military hero.

The Arab world gets to dictate the limitation of American petroleum production, ensuring that OPEC controls the supply, and price.

As a bonus they get a president that supports the Arab agenda, plays havoc with American foreign policy, and ensures that Muslims’ actions and atrocities are viewed by the MSM as America's fault.

Look at the 1963 Goals:

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture—education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

It looks like the Progressives and Socialist are right on schedule. Remember these were the 1963 goals of the Communist Party, and still are the goals of the current “Progressives”.

31 posted on 09/23/2012 5:50:11 PM PDT by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping.
Collaboration between Communists and Muslims to sponsor a “genius” who is both.


32 posted on 09/23/2012 6:10:28 PM PDT by zot
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To: magooey; RWGinger
SHAME on the media for not doing their job in 08

May 16, 2012: Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. (NWSA) has raised its stake in Rotana to 19 percent from 14.5 percent. Rotana, the Arab World's largest media company which runs several TV and radio stations, is controlled by Saudi billionaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal.

Alwaleed, in turn, owns 7% of News Corp. Prince is particularly good friends with James Murdoch who recently became deputy COO and Chief of American operations of News Corp. Rupert Murdoch and family control approximately 40% of voting shares of News Corp.

In December 2011, Alwaleed invested $300 Million in Twitter by buying private shares from the company insiders on the secondary market, which gave him approximately 3.5% stake in the company.

33 posted on 09/23/2012 6:19:57 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

So I’m asking myself, who paid for Sotomeyer’s education? Kagan’s education? Holder’s education? Hell, you can ask yourself if they were spending money on 10,000 people a year for 10 years, how far and deep does this corruption go?


34 posted on 09/23/2012 6:23:53 PM PDT by marygam (#Hurry November 2012, we might not make it#)
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To: CutePuppy

You are right about the author’s intent.

You will go insane if you attempt to unravel all the interlocking relationships between commies, fellow-travelers, useful idiots, and all their shell/front organizations. “Discover the Networks” does a good job trying to do this, but it is thoroughly mind-numbing. If the author had tried to extend his thesis to commie relationships, the article would have been even more difficult to follow.


35 posted on 09/23/2012 6:51:50 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Nachum; CutePuppy; FARS

Thanks, folks. Very interesting story ................................... FRegards


36 posted on 09/23/2012 10:33:42 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: CutePuppy

And yet Fox was one of the only media outlets to ask questions about 0dumbo and his ties

whhile all other MSM just kissed his ass


37 posted on 09/24/2012 7:43:04 AM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: RWGinger
And yet Fox was one of the only media outlets to ask questions about 0dumbo and his ties whhile all other MSM just kissed his ass

Some / certain reporters on Fox asked some / certain questions about Obama and/or other Democrats, as counter-programming to the rest of the media, but that was driven by the "culture" of some / certain rank-and-file reporters rather than investments or the possible edicts of the owner of parent company. Case in point - WSJ's mostly conservative/libertarian editorial board vs WSJ's generally very liberal news division reporting, owned by the same publication within News Corp.

FNC and Murdoch have a reputation of a "conservative" media outlet, by comparison to an out-and-out "progressive" media. That allows Fox maintain a disproportionate share of the viewers and listeners who don't care for "progressive" point-view fed to them from the numerous other media outlets, whose only differentiation comes down to the "personality" delivering the same "old news" the consumers can hear or have heard everywhere else.

Successful content differentiation is good for business, especially when differentiation is addressing the larger and captive "intellectually hungry" segment of the "market" (population) for political and/or business news.

38 posted on 09/24/2012 9:22:39 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

well the reporters who asked the questions about odumbo’s ties and ideologyare atill employed by Fox
so clearly there was no pressure by Fox or any Saudi investor to STOP asking questions


39 posted on 09/24/2012 1:53:00 PM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
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