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Poll: The presidential race is tight in Pennsylvania (Obama 47 Romney 45)
Pittsburgh Tribue-Review ^ | 09/22/2012 | Mike Wereschagin

Posted on 09/23/2012 3:57:41 PM PDT by nhwingut

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; 2012swingstates; 2012tossups; obama; pa2012; pennsylvania; poll; poll2012; romney
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Romney's bad week continues... LOL!
1 posted on 09/23/2012 3:57:48 PM PDT by nhwingut
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To: nhwingut

Are you sh**ing me? Unfreakin-believable. How is it that Romney can be doomed (allegedly)?


2 posted on 09/23/2012 3:59:29 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: nhwingut

How much did this poll over sample dems and under sample repubs and ind?


3 posted on 09/23/2012 4:00:47 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: nhwingut

The journOlists are coordinating their stories. I keep noticing the same phrases pop up.


4 posted on 09/23/2012 4:03:11 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: nhwingut

So when you take out the state-controlled “media’s” bump, Romney is leading. Cool!


5 posted on 09/23/2012 4:05:33 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Proud to be a 53 percenter American.)
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To: TigerClaws
The journOlists are coordinating their stories. I keep noticing the same phrases pop up.

I agree. There's a good chance that this story is a plant designed to put pressure (or, rather, have Conservatives/Republicans put pressure) on Romney to spend money there.

Everyone NEEDS to keep in mind that the best, most accurate polls are the ones done by the campaigns that never see the light of day. Those are the ones that drive their actions, not these things being put out by the MSM.
6 posted on 09/23/2012 4:07:11 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: TigerClaws

If Obama looses Pennsylvania, then election night will be over quickly.

Why any coal producing state would vote for coal hating Obozo is beyond my ability to reason.


7 posted on 09/23/2012 4:07:39 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (christian.bahits.com)
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To: nhwingut
Awesome! First Romney's internal polls show a 1 pt race, now this... Looks like Ras (O+12) was an outlier. Bad sample of 500 LV

We can do this!!!

8 posted on 09/23/2012 4:08:48 PM PDT by Adriatic Cons (Allen West... Will make a GREAT POTUS on day... For now, I'll settle for R&R)
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To: nhwingut
Awesome! First Romney's internal polls show a 1 pt race, now this... Looks like Ras (O+12) was an outlier. Bad sample of 500 LV

We can do this!!!

9 posted on 09/23/2012 4:08:48 PM PDT by Adriatic Cons (Allen West... Will make a GREAT POTUS on day... For now, I'll settle for R&R)
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To: nhwingut

How can this be. According to the 0bama media group he is ahead by 99% 0bama 1% Romney.


10 posted on 09/23/2012 4:08:48 PM PDT by A message
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To: TigerClaws

I think the best part of Limbaugh’s show is when he replays the clips of all the journ0lists reciting the same talking points.


11 posted on 09/23/2012 4:09:01 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: nhwingut

but but but......rasmussen’s latest poll had obama +12 in pa.


12 posted on 09/23/2012 4:09:08 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: nhwingut

And 6 percent of voters are undecided makes it closer. Obama looks to be in trouble in PA.


13 posted on 09/23/2012 4:09:08 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: nhwingut

Doesn’t the latest Rasmussen poll for PA have Obama up by about 12? I think that was yesterday.


14 posted on 09/23/2012 4:09:49 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Lysandru
Are you sh**ing me? Unfreakin-believable.

Yeah, that 0bama can get even 10% after 4 years of the economic plague!!

15 posted on 09/23/2012 4:10:57 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: TigerClaws
"Poll: The presidential race is tight in Pennsylvania (Obama 47 Romney 45)"

"The journOlists are coordinating their stories. I keep noticing the same phrases pop up."

Yeah, they keep using the word 'tight', because it describes their sphincters.

"Obama polled 47 percent to Romney's 45 percent among likely Pennsylvania voters, with 6 percent of voters undecided and 44 days until Election Day, according to the survey by Susquehanna Polling & Research. The survey of 800 voters, conducted Sept. 18-20, has a margin of error of 3.46 percentage points."

16 posted on 09/23/2012 4:14:04 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (2008 + IN, NE1, NC, FL, VA, OH, IA = 272EV)
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To: FreeAtlanta
Why any coal producing state would vote for coal hating Obozo is beyond my ability to reason.

JMO FA.

17 posted on 09/23/2012 4:14:25 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: nhwingut

Wasn’t there another poll from the drive bys that had Barry with a double digit lead in Penn?


18 posted on 09/23/2012 4:16:55 PM PDT by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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To: nhwingut

“All the evidence points to a much closer margin,” said Jim Lee, Susquehanna president. “Nothing suggests we’re looking at anything like 2008.”

Voters who peg foreign affairs and international events as their top concern prefer Romney, 53 percent to 46 percent, the poll found.


19 posted on 09/23/2012 4:17:11 PM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: nhwingut

And yet...Rasmussen says it’s O-Hole 51% to Romney 39%
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2934968/posts

They’re all crap until Election Day.

Keep the faith.


20 posted on 09/23/2012 4:18:36 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: nhwingut

lets hope as a Rasmussen poll posted on Freep last night had obozo up 13 in the state...


21 posted on 09/23/2012 4:19:22 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: nhwingut

The Tribune-Revie is the conservative paper in Pittsburgh, and neither Romney nor Obama seem to be spending any time there.

Still, this is a real eye opener. I think Obama is currently winning, but his support runs a mile wide but only a fraction of an inch deep.

Romney, if he ever truly gets on message and stays there, can definitely win this.


22 posted on 09/23/2012 4:20:08 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: tanknetter

I agree with you. If I were Romney, I wouldn’t spend one dime in PA. It would be marvelous if they voted for Romney. Same for California. Doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.


23 posted on 09/23/2012 4:20:12 PM PDT by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: Lysandru

The last poll out of Pennsy had Obama at, like 55 and Romney at like 39, or something.

There are at least 3 threads on it here. I think it was Rasmussen, but I could be wrong.

In all reality right now this race is up for grabs, but that makes me think advantage Romney.


24 posted on 09/23/2012 4:24:15 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: tanknetter

“Everyone NEEDS to keep in mind that the best, most accurate polls are the ones done by the campaigns that never see the light of day. Those are the ones that drive their actions, not these things being put out by the MSM.”

This is true.


25 posted on 09/23/2012 4:25:47 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: nhwingut
Sounds like a margin of error figure.Romney could actually be ahead there.Force Osama Obama to spend serious $$$ to win what should be a walk in the park for him!
26 posted on 09/23/2012 4:26:18 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive!)
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To: FreeAtlanta

How many coal fired electricity generation plants are scheduled to close before year end? and didn’t o dumbo say rates will necessarily skyrocket and if you build it I will bankrupt it??????


27 posted on 09/23/2012 4:30:55 PM PDT by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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LET’S GO PITTSBURGH

WE CAN DO THIS...ROMNEY~~RYAN 2012


28 posted on 09/23/2012 4:32:01 PM PDT by haircutter (.)
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To: nhwingut

Earlier in the day, PA was for Obama 85 to 15.


29 posted on 09/23/2012 4:32:35 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Gene Eric

With a 15% MOE.


30 posted on 09/23/2012 4:35:10 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: nhwingut

I guess the strategy of pulling the ads for Romney is working.

Makes the election look more like Obama or no Obama and that’s one of Romney’s best selling points- he’s not Obama.


31 posted on 09/23/2012 4:36:29 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: FreeAtlanta

“Why any coal producing state would vote for coal hating Obozo is beyond my ability to reason.”

He didn’t hide his dislike of coal in the last election, going so far as to promise to shut down coal fired power plants and Pennsylvania still went blue.


32 posted on 09/23/2012 4:37:54 PM PDT by Holly_P
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To: nhwingut

Rasmussen has Romney down around 8 points, I believe.


33 posted on 09/23/2012 4:38:48 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: nhwingut

West Virginia votes for libs who close down coal...if Penn votes for Obama they’re stupid idiots...coal, oil...


34 posted on 09/23/2012 4:39:10 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: Holly_P

Yes but rhetoric and actually doing is two different things. The people in PA now see what he’s doing/done. I think coal country will go Romney. It’s the cities that over take the state. Just like MOST blue states.


35 posted on 09/23/2012 4:42:14 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: EGPWS

“Yeah, that 0bama can get even 10% after 4 years of the economic plague!!”

Kind of shows the weakness of the republican candidate, doesn’t it?

I may be wrong but I believe had Palin run, it wouldn’t even be close now. A strong conservative is what we need and haven’t had since Reagan. It makes me want to puke when I see anyone comparing Romney favorably with Reagan.

Romney out Kerrys Kerry


36 posted on 09/23/2012 4:42:34 PM PDT by Holly_P
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To: nhwingut

If they don’t stop the Voter ID bill he might have a slim chance.


37 posted on 09/23/2012 4:43:49 PM PDT by linn37 (Newt supporter here.)
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To: nhwingut

A poll just yesterday had Obozo up by 12.


38 posted on 09/23/2012 4:43:50 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Yes, Rasmussen had it at O 51, R 39. That was VERY depressing. But this poll sounds more realistic — and, of course, more encouraging.


39 posted on 09/23/2012 4:55:16 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Holly_P
I may be wrong but I believe had Palin run, it wouldn’t even be close now.

You can't win the prize when you're not in the ring.

You go with the candidate you have. The next President will likely choose three Supreme Court justices; I'd rather deny Obama that power.

40 posted on 09/23/2012 4:57:30 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (No representation without respiration!)
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To: tanknetter
I keep hearing time and time again about these mysterious "private" or "internal" polls that campaigns rely on, which are supposedly more accurate than any of the published polls. I am willing to believe they may exist, but have yet to see any evidence or credible source describing them. If someone has that knowledge, or a believable link, I would be appreciative to see it.
41 posted on 09/23/2012 4:58:12 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

Romney shouldn’t spend in PA - yet - but the Super Pacs should. Saturate both Philly and Pittsburgh markets, move the needle, and force Obama to react on the air.

Obama cannot keep up if we spread the map and saturate Blue markets.

DRAIN OBAMA DRY NOW. They cannot admit to the MSM there will be movement against them in blue states, so they cannot overtly raise a lot of money.

The only problem is that the pro-Romney PACS may not have enough money to throw around. They should, and any wealthy conservatives that haven’t written 7-figure checks should be ashamed. They are consigning their children and grandchildren to debt, despair, and darkness for the remainder of their lives.


42 posted on 09/23/2012 5:03:36 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: nhwingut

Wow. I wonder how accurate this is. Rasmussen just released a poll with Obama up 51-39 in Pennsylvania.


43 posted on 09/23/2012 5:04:07 PM PDT by Laura722
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To: nhwingut

Remember the 2010 elections? Rats are trying to make us forget they were destroyed last time out. And things are worse now.


44 posted on 09/23/2012 5:04:27 PM PDT by 9422WMR (Life is not fair, just deal with it.)
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To: Holly_P
I think most freepers are smart enough to realize that the coal counties in a given state will go against the Usurper but the heavily populated cities will go for the socialist swine. Parasitic cityslickers don't care about the energy problem, they just assume the lights will always be there.
45 posted on 09/23/2012 5:05:14 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: nhwingut

Yesterday Rasmussen said Pennsylvania was Obama by 14 points.

Somebody is not working sober.


46 posted on 09/23/2012 5:15:38 PM PDT by cookcounty (Kagan and Sotomayor side with Joe Wilson: -------Obama DID lie!)
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To: nhwingut

See, this is what is so frustrating about these polls. We just had a PA poll from RASMUSSEN-—who should be reliable-—showing a big Obama lead in PA. Now this. WTF?


47 posted on 09/23/2012 5:17:46 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: nhwingut

Don’t waste time or money in Pennsylvania.

Oldplayer


48 posted on 09/23/2012 5:24:24 PM PDT by oldplayer
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To: LS
Did you read the really pathetic column by Scotty Ras trashing Romney this week.
It sounded like Peggy Noonan bs.

Ras has been battered by Axelrod and Nate " Daily Koz " Silver and I think he has buckled to their pressure .

He changed his national poll from +1 Rep to +2 Dem for no reason and did it quietly.
I suspect his state polling has been pressured to use the 2008 exit polling data too.

49 posted on 09/23/2012 5:24:33 PM PDT by ncalburt (QUIETLY CHANG)
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To: hinckley buzzard
I keep hearing time and time again about these mysterious "private" or "internal" polls that campaigns rely on, which are supposedly more accurate than any of the published polls. I am willing to believe they may exist, but have yet to see any evidence or credible source describing them. If someone has that knowledge, or a believable link, I would be appreciative to see it.

You should, as a starting point, reference this thread where GOP pollster John McLaughlin went into some details about the MSM polls being BS.

I've worked campaigns, albiet a while ago, and I have lots of friends still working them. There are always internal polls, and those polls are designed by intent to tell campaigns where they need to send their candidates/surrogates and where to spend their money. They are also, as I know from both experience and knowledge from friends, often quite different from the MSM ones.

The devil here is in the details. Or specifically the internals. Polling is very much an art, not a science, and pollsters take the results they receive and plug them into fairly complex models that encompass things like demographics, partisan/ideological affiliation and expected turnout.

The three most critical items to look at in any MSM poll right now are Partisan identification, where the independents are trending and voter enthusiasm.

The current MSM polls are showing, by and large, an unreasonable partisan advantage to the Dems. 2008 was a D+7 election. Some polls out there are showing D+9 to D+13 advantages (although the trend in the last couple days seems to be contracting on that). So ask yourself, is it reasonable to assume that the Dems are going to have a turnout of 2 to 6 points GREATER than the historic/unprecedented turnout of 2008?

The MSM polls are also showing greater enthusiasm by GOP/Romney supporters (enthusiasm was in the Dems favor in 2008) and Indies generally (there have been a couple polls not showing this) trending to Romney. One by 10 points. So now ask yourself, why are polls showing greater GOP enthusiasm and Indies breaking for Romney also showing him getting his a** kicked?

While I don't have any insider knowledge of current Romney polls, it's well within reason to believe that his campaign has projected turnout models for each state (and nationally) based on better and more realistic assumptions and projections (so NOT a Dem turnout higher than the historic 2008 election).
50 posted on 09/23/2012 5:41:16 PM PDT by tanknetter
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