Skip to comments.Poll: The presidential race is tight in Pennsylvania (Obama 47 Romney 45)
Posted on 09/23/2012 3:57:41 PM PDT by nhwingut
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This is very confusing. I saw a Rasmussen poll a few days ago which shows Obama up 51 to 39 in Pennsylvania. These polls are driving me nuts. Just everyone go out and vote, that is the most important thing we can all do
Unskewedpolls.com says differently. Romney up 7.8%
Man, I would really like to see a string of ads featuring the people Romney has helped over the years. The oness at the convention and the ones on Beck had me in tears at times and they could just be compressed into an ad. If you can make someone cry with a political ad you’ve got them, especially given the narrative that Mitt doesn’t care about the poor.
Does anyone know if any of the outside groups are planning something like this ? I know Romney won’t do it himself as he does this stuff in secret for a reason. If one of the outside groups comes up with ads like that they’ve got my money.
And in 2010 the press was saying the GOP was in trouble and might not survive. But then the press is largely made up of ignorant jackass suck-ups.
I think they would do just fine working Ohio and taking the market spillover into Western PA. I would do a hard, heavy, energy independence, pro coal ad.
The MC for the Emmys just asked the audience if any of them were voting for Romney. About half the audience started clapping. I almost fell out of my chair. We were just channel serving and stopped to hear the answer. It was amazing to hear!
I don’t know this poll, the Trib definitely is the right leaning paper in the pittsburgh area, but this poll certainly reflects what I am empirically seeing in my daily conversations with people.
The very idea that Obama has support in PA anywhere near his 2008 level is LAUGHABLE. Any poll showing Obama up 10 or anything like it in PA is fundamentally flawed.
PA is within striking distance if it is fought for, not saying the Romney/Ryan camp will fight for it, but it is winnable if they do. The idea that OHIO is in play or IA is just as laughable.
Obama will not carry a single state he didn’t get at least 55% of the popular vote in 2008 period.
I work this campaign twice a week and it seems that we are indeed poll takers for the most part. The phone system here in FL is impressive. The dialing is automatic, responses are keyed into the phone and two pushed buttons leave a message and free you up the instant you hear the first words from an answering machine. If you put your head down and just work, you can easily make 200 calls an hour.
Every call that is registered as a wrong number or a disconnect along with other unknown phone number addresses is fed into a different system that generates “door knocking” lists. We are sent out with scripts and bubble result pages that are scanned once we return to the office. Of course we go out with a bunch of literature for unanswered doors andhand outs and we say a few kind words to try to convince and undecideds we meet. But by and large I have been a poll taker giving Gov Romney his “internal poll”.
Given that the Romney office is 15 miles away the nearest obot office is 5 minutes, mischief has most certainly been on my mind. But I am not sure I could stand the smell in such close confines.
I live in PA and I can tell you ANY POLL and I don’ care who is giving it that shows OBAMA with a lead in PA ANYWHERE near what he had in 2008 is flat out wrong.. why its wrong, I couldn’t say but his support is GONE evaporated...
If Romney doesn’t fight for PA Obama will likely win with a 2-5% margin at best. ANY Poll showing him up 10 points or anything close to 2008 here is laughably off base.
Obama will not win any state he did not carry 55% of the popular vote in, in 2008.
PA is very much a battleground IF they republicans decide to fight for it, so far it doesn’t seem like by media buys that Romney/Ryan are buying here, and that could be nothing more than strategic decisions, but believe me, Obama up 10 in PA is not remotely accurate.
When you’re done puking don’t forget to vote and FIRE Obama.
I don’t know what Ras is doing but I can tell you anyone who’s polling is showing Obama support in PA anywhere near 2008 levels if off by a long long way.
I think if Romney/Ryan don’t fight for PA, Obama wins PA by 2-5 points at best.
If Romney/Ryan decide to fight for it, its certainly something they could win, but for whatever reasons they are not fighting for it. I assume its a strategic decision.
It’s quite possible Rasmussen has national polling down pat, but doesn’t do states too well. But, if Romney isn’t there campaigning then his internals are the reason. In other words, don’t get your hopes up about PA.
Just yesterday I saw a poll that had him down double digits. It was remarked that an R hasn’t won Pennsy in some 25 years or so and were writing it off.
What is psy ops and what is news these days?
Correct. Maybe his internals show him up 8 points so that might be why he's in Colorado instead.
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You can wake up now. If Romney is up 8 in PA, then he’s up 15 in Colorado, and he can go back to his summer house in NH (where’d he’d be up 18) for the next 7 weeks.
Wgy is Manchin up in WV now?
All polls between now and the end of Oct are as useful as the NFL ‘power rankings’.
Obama campaign ad that claims Romney raises taxes on the middle class by $2000. That number is based on the assumption IF Obama can extend the Bush Tax Cuts for the middle class.
Romney wouldnt be President until January 20, 2013. Even if Romney wins, he couldnt extend the lower rates, the Bush Tax Cuts expire in December, 2012.
Also, Obamas plan only offers the tax cut for 1 year for the middle class. After that, the middle class do get an increase they claim is being done only by Romney.
IIRC, something approaching 50% of PA’s electricity is ultimately derived from coal (an industry Obama explicitly said he would “put out of business).
What fool outside of Philadelphia (which is beyond all hope) would vote for Obama? Would he to win a second term, the coal plants should collectively Go Galt and extend a middle finger to the state. May their power go out.
Agreed 100%. Romney is our Kerry. If we support him we’re rewarding the GOP-e.
I didn’t catch that change-— yet he came out yesterday with a poll showing that nationally thevGOP has its highest ID level in YEARS-—37.5.
Where did you hear about Romney’s “internal polls.” I’m deeply skeptical, even though I don’t trust any of the national polls.
I heard about that. Refreshing.
Ridiculous. This is not about Romney or a “GOPe” but about saving our country from Obama anyone who doesn’t help is no better than an Obama voter. ALL choices come done to one of two choices. Yes, or no, 1 or Zero.
No kidding! To believe that Rasmussen poll, you also have to believe that Obama is running stronger than he did in 2008.
Rasmussen Obama 51 Romney 39
Obama was 54.6% vs. McCain 44.3% in 2008, that's Obama by 10.3%. If Rasmussen's poll is accurate, then Obama is doing better in 2012 than 2008. That's just doesn't pass the smell test.
Forgot to mention, those are 2008 Pennsylvania numbers.
Interesting, but amateur night...look at the dates; '2112' instead of '2012'...news stories several months old. Fun numbers, but can't take them seriously...
Ditto. The men behind the curtain with Ivy League degrees and pompous self-images really are zombies mouthing the party line. There is little thinking in liberalism.
I have a feeling we'll see Romney/Ryan in PA sometime in the next few weeks to firm the state up.
It is amazing. I know some that live in the middle of coal country and the left have convinced them that coal dust along the roads is killing them. Not enough deep thinking going on. They want to drive toys that burn tons of energy, but they dont want dirty hydrocarbons coming out of the ground.
There’s that 47% again.
So true which is why I think this poll is an overstretch having just recently read that Romney pulled out of PA. I doubt he pulled out because it's in the bag, but it's a nice dream.
It is isn’t it?
Getting Obama out of the White House is almost certainly a matter of national survival. Vote accordingly.
Amazing...Obama is going going to hit road on Nov 6.
Philadelphia and Pittsburgh drown out the rest of the stake. Two blue dots in an otherwise red state.
The miners are too uninformed to know of Obama’s position on coal.
Hmmmm ..?? I remember seeing info somewhere about Romney meeting with the Coal Union people and they were supporting Romney.
The main thing that keeps me - barely - on the Romney side is the SCOTUS.
The main argument against a Romney victory lies in the cycle enunciated by one Alexander Tytler:
From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage.
The more quickly we can pass through the apathy/dependence/bondage phase, the sooner real rebuilding can begin.