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Documentary Review: Dinesh D'Souza Unsuccessfully Reaches With 2016
Forbes ^ | 09/24/2012 | John Tamny

Posted on 09/24/2012 5:08:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

While in college one of my good friends had a basic, American sounding name something like (name is changed to avoid embarrassing the real person) Charlie Palmer. Charlie had a father who was born and raised in Memphis, and who had a southern accent, and then his mother was of Colombian descent. Charlie would talk about his Colombian heritage on occasion, but it in no obvious way defined him.

Fast forward roughly five years, Charlie has drifted from his friends as college friends often do after graduation, yet somehow I heard that he was a first year law student at a Midwestern university. The only difference was that formerly all American, fraternity party attending Charlie Palmer was now Charles Palmer-Gonzalez, a foreign law student in a strange land mingling solely with other students who’d matriculated from around the world. I knew this because a close friend of mine was in Charlie’s class.

I was reminded of Palmer’s evolution while watching Dinesh D’Souza’s documentary on President Obama, 2016. D’Souza arrived at Dartmouth in the late ‘70s, and soon joined a foreign students’ association that included not a few Americans utterly fascinated by and eager to spend time with their fellow classmates from foreign locales.

As the above applies to Obama, it’s impossible to know for certain, but my own guess is that having had a very American upbringing in 1970s Hawaii (parents who weren’t terribly interested in him a truism of the “Me Decade”), Obama by the college and law school years realized that it would be advantageous to play up his foreign background which included a Kenyan father who abandoned him not long after he was born, and a mother who took him to live with her in Indonesia until the 5th grade,

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2016; dineshdsouza; documentary

1 posted on 09/24/2012 5:08:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The film is a good vehicle for describing how BO got his worldview. I thought it was decent.


2 posted on 09/24/2012 5:18:19 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SeekAndFind

Please provide some commentary. The title is foggy at best.

If it means the author doesn’t think D’Souza did a good job, then the author is a rare liberal employed by Forbes and is an idiot.

If it means D’Souza isn’t reaching enough people, then it’s time to go to video NOW!!! As the purpose I hope is to save America, and I hope D’Souza realizes that.

Example: Saturday, it was uploaded to YouTube...before it was pulled, I was viewer #865. When I was done, 87 minutes later, it was up to 13,500 or so. Then it was pulled. It needs to go viral NOW.


3 posted on 09/24/2012 5:18:22 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Please provide some commentary. The title is foggy at best.

If it means the author doesn’t think D’Souza did a good job, then the author is a rare liberal employed by Forbes and is an idiot.

If it means D’Souza isn’t reaching enough people, then it’s time to go to video NOW!!! As the purpose I hope is to save America, and I hope D’Souza realizes that.

Example: Saturday, it was uploaded to YouTube...before it was pulled, I was viewer #865. When I was done, 87 minutes later, it was up to 13,500 or so. Then it was pulled. It needs to go viral NOW.


4 posted on 09/24/2012 5:18:32 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Some of these articles with the possibly-real, possibly-apocryphal intros are more blah than blog.

There’s no reason they can’t introduce their basic premise in the introductory paragraph.


5 posted on 09/24/2012 5:19:28 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Agreed. I overlooked the title, and gave the author three paragraphs to get going in some direction.

He failed. So I’ll go look for another article!


6 posted on 09/24/2012 5:21:45 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: CincyRichieRich
Sounds like the author is another lefty of sorts. He apparently wrote a previous article suggesting that Milton Friedman had changed his philosophy in later life and repudiated monetarism.

http://www.themoneyillusion.com/?p=14840

I saw 2016. I don't think D’Souza is reaching at all.

7 posted on 09/24/2012 5:27:02 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: SeekAndFind

bfl


8 posted on 09/24/2012 5:36:48 AM PDT by sauropod (Only two of God's creatures can employ the term "we": newspaper editors and men with tapeworms-Hayes)
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To: SeekAndFind
D’Souza did a very good job with the video. Did he answer all the questions about Obama, no that wasn't the vision behind the film. He did presented a theory as well as general factual information that was designed to make you think and to make you decide.
9 posted on 09/24/2012 5:40:27 AM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Any information as to why YouTube pulled the video? Did Vimeo illicitly make it available? I was curious why the film’s producers/studio would undercut their box office take by putting it up for free on YouTube.


10 posted on 09/24/2012 5:43:53 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: WellyP

Maybe most telling was the short segment on Obama’s brother George.


11 posted on 09/24/2012 5:45:25 AM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought D’Souza’s film was dead on.


12 posted on 09/24/2012 5:47:36 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama loved the poor so much, he created millions more.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who are you going to believe? Your own ears or something dashed off by a lefty writer. The premises in the movie are based on Obama’s own words, reading his autobiography (who wrote it is another story.)

If you want to catch a magician, watch the hands. With Obama, watch what he does, not what he says. He wants to destroy manufacturing in the US with regulation and taxation. We will still mine coal, but we will ship it to China where they will make electricity and steel. He will effectively “share the wealth” with the world and tear the US down to the level of an underdeveloped country.


13 posted on 09/24/2012 5:53:13 AM PDT by calico_thompson
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To: SeekAndFind

This guy is just another dipsh*t Libertarian. Another one of Obama’s useful idiots. We have some of them here at FR. They say Obama won’t be so bad in a second term, and Romney would be worse. They sound like a bunch of parrots.


14 posted on 09/24/2012 5:53:58 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: SeekAndFind
it’s very much the norm for left leaning students to emerge from the high schools of the elite... Obama strikes this writer as yet another utopian, adult-adolescent liberal of the American variety; his views commonplace within the Democratic party that he leads.

I'd have to agree.

15 posted on 09/24/2012 5:55:12 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: SeekAndFind
Hawaii, a hotbed of Honkeydom?

Ask the Howlies (Haole).

Obama's American upbringing is evidenced by the way he throws a baseball.

16 posted on 09/24/2012 6:00:12 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (All Y'all White Peoples is racist!)
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To: sam_paine
Oh my goodness, yes! This author's mealy-mouthed, self indulgent attempt at reviewing Dinesh D'souza's 2016 left me thinking "Wow. This blog is really making a boring and unsuccessful reach."
17 posted on 09/24/2012 6:01:29 AM PDT by Casie
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To: SeekAndFind

$32,000,0000 Gross take to date. Still raking in almost $1 million/week according to Box Office Mojo.


18 posted on 09/24/2012 6:04:16 AM PDT by calico_thompson
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To: SeekAndFind

I assumed Forbes would be on our side. I am sick of receiving friendly fire by those thought were allies. The peggy noonan types who feel they have to attack consevatives to gain credibility can GTH.


19 posted on 09/24/2012 6:18:17 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (We won't stand for biased umps fixing a ball game but we allow a biased media to fix elections.)
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To: sam_paine
Now that I think about it, if a blog post begins with, “Back when I was in college” or “One time at band camp” you can just stop reading right there. haha!
20 posted on 09/24/2012 6:19:40 AM PDT by Casie
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To: Casie

At least those make a point early! You know what you’re in for.

These other articles are like putting the produce aisle on the 3rd floor.

You have to hike up two flights of stairs just to find out everything is all wilted.


21 posted on 09/24/2012 6:22:40 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: SeekAndFind

How can the writer ignore all the links of young Barry Soetero back to members of the communist party and to anti-colonial activists and anarchists? How does the writer explain young Barry easily getting into privileged schools? How does the writer ignore all of obama’s own words about his younger days? He can’t, but instead tries to say obama is Bush’s fault. I guess Forbes will let anyone write for them.


22 posted on 09/24/2012 6:35:17 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Film was better than decent. Compare the “United States of Islam” to the recent riots (called demonstrations by the media) and tell me you don’t see the connection.


23 posted on 09/24/2012 6:39:33 AM PDT by Boomer One
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To: CincyRichieRich; sam_paine

The author, John Tamny, is not a liberal by any stretch of the imagination (his many articles in the past show that he is LIBERTARIAN and quite sympathetic to Milton Friedman’s ideas ).

After seeing the documentary, Tamny just believes that D’Souza is stretching things too much and force fitting the evidence to arrive at a predetermined conclusion.

According to Tamny, D’Souza’s biggest reach in a documentary full of them, is D’Souza’s attempt to draw a picture of sameness between himself and the president. Born the same year, graduated from an Ivy League school the same year, married the same year, similar skin color, and similar backgrounds in the sense that both had ancestors who grew up under colonialism. D’Souza, in drawing the similarities, seems to be asking why he and the president see the world so differently.

The problem is that Obama and D’Souza aren’t so similar. Yes, D’Souza’s Indian ancestors lived under British rule until the bloody partition in 1947, and then Obama’s father grew up in a Kenya that similarly emerged from British rule in the ‘50s. But that’s where the similarities seem to end. D’Souza grew up in Bombay until he left for Dartmouth in the late ‘70s, while Obama, notwithstanding efforts from his detractors meant to make him foreign, mostly grew up in Honolulu while attending Punahou, a nationally known and very elite school.

In short, Obama’s upbringing was mostly American. He only saw his father once after he was a year old, and then his mother as mentioned sent him back to live with his grandparents when he was in the 5th grade. In fact, Obama had a very middle class and very “white” upbringing by grandparents who seemingly cared for him in ways that his parents never did. As D’Souza doubtless knows from his days at Dartmouth, it’s very much the norm for left leaning students to emerge from the high schools of the elite, so it’s odd that he would feign surprise about the views of our president.

Of course eager to promote a thesis about what shaped Obama, D’Souza argues throughout 2016 that Obama’s African lineage explains him. He presumes that the worldview of a father whom he barely knew informs Obama’s today, and while it’s possible that he took his mother’s laudatory comments about his father to heart, and while genes are certainly powerful, Obama strikes Tamny as yet another utopian, adult-adolescent liberal of the American variety; his views commonplace within the Democratic party that he leads.

THAT’s ALL.

I don’t see in Tamny’s comments, anything that is sympathetic to liberals at all.


24 posted on 09/24/2012 7:09:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind
What a waste of time. I couldn't get past the first page.

Is this just an attempt at being "fair and balanced" or has Forbes always been such a liberal rag?

25 posted on 09/24/2012 7:36:06 AM PDT by GBA
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To: SeekAndFind

If Tamny thinks Obama is just another garden-variety liberal, he’s got rocks in his head. Tamny proffered that he believes Obama isn’t much diffent than Bush II as far as actions and ideology. If he truly thinks that, he’s an ignoramus. Dubya made mistakes, but they weren’t anything of the magnitude of Obama’s. I’m 62, and I’ve never seen a president with such radical sympathies and background as Obama and who has tried to act on those sympathies in such a destructive way. Tamny is a clown.


26 posted on 09/24/2012 7:49:46 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: SoFloFreeper

2016 may not be reaching enough people but it does a good job of describing Obama and his psyche.


27 posted on 09/24/2012 8:08:40 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: WellyP

"I wish my brother George was here"

28 posted on 09/25/2012 2:38:02 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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