Chicago official asks Chick-fil-A to clarify gay marriage stance (Or else...)

CNN ^ | 09/24/2012 | By Melissa Gray

[SeekAndFind]

A Chicago alderman says Chick-fil-A's president is publicly contradicting what company executives personally assured him for months -- that the fast-food chain is changing its stance on gay marriage -- and he asked the company Sunday to clarify.

Alderman Joe Moreno made news last week when he announced Chick-fil-A has ceased making donations to anti-gay groups and has enacted workplace protections for its employees against discrimination.

Moreno said the two concessions were the result of 10 months of negotiations he had with Chick-fil-A executives as he weighed whether to support a new Chick-fil-A restaurant in his Chicago ward. He said the executives gave him documents backing up the new positions.

Chick-fil-A, in a statement Thursday, affirmed the workplace protections. Friday, however, company President Dan Cathy denied the company has ceased making donations to groups that oppose gay marriage and said Chick-fil-A "made no such concessions."

"There continues to be erroneous implications in the media that Chick-fil-A changed our practices and priorities in order to obtain permission for a new restaurant in Chicago," Cathy said in a statement to Mike Huckabee, the former Republican presidential candidate who now runs a conservative website. "That is incorrect." Moreno said Sunday that Cathy's statement "at the least, muddied the progress we had made with Chick-fil-A and, at the worst, contradicted the documents and promises Chick-fil-A made to me and the community earlier this month." Moreno said Chick-fil-A executives gave him a letter earlier this year saying the company's non-profit arm, the WinShape Foundation, will not support organizations with political agendas. "We were told that these organizations included groups that politically work against the rights of gay and lesbian people," Moreno said.

Cathy's conflicting statement, Moreno said Sunday, is "disturbing."

[SeekAndFind]

"I am simply asking Mr. Cathy to confirm statements and documents that HIS company executives provided to me," Moreno said in a written statement, capitalizing "his" for emphasis.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

ESAD, dipwad.

[Hodar]

Looks like it’s going to be a banner year for those Chick-a-filet franchise owners. There is no way they could possibly buy this kind of advertising.

[PetroniusMaximus]

“A Chicago alderman says Chick-fil-A’s president is publicly contradicting what company executives personally assured him for months — that the fast-food chain is changing its stance on gay marriage

This is ABSOLUTELY a lie. CFA has not changed their stance one iota.

“Company executives personally assured” him of NOTHING that is out of step with the president’s stated position.

[Mr. K]

Chik-fil-A had better call out this lying a$$hole or he wont stop...

[GeronL]

Chick-fil-A has never practiced any discrimination as far as I can tell, or the MSM would have been highlighting it. The donation in question was only $1K to Focus on the Family, hardly an extremist group and it was in 2010.

The left is insane. Large corporations donating tens of thousands to radical left causes and its not newsworthy.

[lesko]

Hey Chick-fil-A,

I am a supporter of your fine restaurant. Tell anyone that has a problem with you to (fill in the blank).

Signed,

A Chick-Fil-A FAN

[MrDem]

Cathy should tell Moreno to go to hell, it is none of his business.

[SeekAndFind]

They should prospect a place in Long Island, NY. We don’t have a Chick-Fil-A anywhere here.

I know of many business folks looking for a profitable franchise to invest in...

[manc]

none of his business where and what they do with their money so long as they pay taxes and go by the laws.

Oh do piss off you left wing fanatics and the homostapo, people have had enough of your crap no pun intended.

How about dealing with crimes and killing and shottings in Chicago.
The left have been fighting this social war for decades but then say it is our side

[AAABEST]

So this alderman has the arbitrary power put a restaurant out of businesses because he doesn't like the owner's political/social views?

Soemone stomp the little nazi.

[Alex Murphy]

A Chicago alderman says Chick-fil-A's president is publicly contradicting what company executives personally assured him for months -- that the fast-food chain is changing its stance on gay marriage -- and he asked the company Sunday to clarify.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

[MrB]

Leftists hate God and especially Christians.
This behavior is to be expected.

[Navy Patriot]

Alderman Joe Morono and the Gay Nazis are attempting to flank Chick-Fil-A after a humiliating publicity defeat at the hands of the large majority of American people who sprang to the support of Chick-Fil-A with the BUYcott.

[pogo101]

Soemone stomp the little nazi.

I hate Illinois Nazis.

[THE_RAIDER]

Chick-Fil-A should take action against the city of Chicago. You have a person who is responsible for giving permits out demanding a business owner to give up his civil right or else he can't open a store.

[Pollster1]

Time for another Spicy Chicken and Waffle Fries for me. Government has absolutely no place blackmailing private individuals or judging their religious values. This Chicago thug disgusts me (although not nearly as much as the Chicago thug in our White House disgusts me).

[New Jersey Realist]

I tell the guy to go eat .... (and I don’t mean chicken)!

[molson209]

Chicago official asks Chick-fil-A to clarify gay marriage stance (Or else...)

and global warming also why is the sky blue ?

It’s none of their business .

[KarlInOhio]

Cathy's conflicting statement, Moreno said Sunday, is "disturbing."

[JudyinCanada]

“None of your business” is the exact answer.

[BlatherNaut]

Alderman Joe Morono and the Gay Nazis are attempting to flank Chick-Fil-A after a humiliating publicity defeat at the hands of the large majority of American people

The "new normal" for the Chik-Fil-A business model will henceforth require cost allocation for Gaystapo lawsuit and propaganda countermeasures, because the Christian owners refused to deny their faith.

[Maringa]

I can see two things happening here...The alderman needs some time to fight off the demands his constituents are placing on him...This could also be a way for them to try and make Chick-Fil-A appear to be back tracking again, without Chick-Fil-A ever committing to anything in the first place. This will make the alderman look like he has tried to do something...Bring this back out again as another distraction during the political season.

If Chick-Fil-A did committ or agree to something, then internally the right hand doesn’t know what the left is doing, and they need to fix that pronto...otherwise this could get ugly.

[madprof98]

Moreno said Chick-fil-A executives gave him a letter earlier this year saying the company's non-profit arm, the WinShape Foundation, will not support organizations with political agendas. "We were told that these organizations included groups that politically work against the rights of gay and lesbian people," Moreno said.

Wow! Now supporting marriage as it has been understood since Adam and Eve is a "political agenda" that harms "the rights of gay and lesbian people." And MOST AMERICANS seem to be buying this, or at least their support for Obama suggests they buy it.

As for me, I went out of my way to get breakfast at Chik-fil-A this morning.

[FLAMING DEATH]

“Moreno said Chick-fil-A executives gave him a letter earlier this year saying the company’s non-profit arm, the WinShape Foundation, will not support organizations with political agendas.”

Easy enough, Moreno. Show us the letter, or it didn’t happen.

[DesertRhino]

To be permitted to operate, this company must clarify to a politician, what they choose to do with their profits?

This politician is a pure totalitarian. He deserves the common fate often inflicted on his types throughout the world.

[texas booster]

Moreno said the two concessions were the result of 10 months of negotiations he had with Chick-fil-A executives as he weighed whether to support a new Chick-fil-A restaurant in his Chicago ward. He said the executives gave him documents backing up the new positions.

10 months of negotiations for TWO concessions?

Considering that these franchisees are local residents anyway, why should any corporate decisions make a difference?

And who really believes that he started caring 10 months ago, rather than in July when the gay hubbub started?

[DoughtyOne]

What we are witnessing here is political correctness run amuk.

This type of thing took place in Germany in the early to mid 1930s.

What we have to come to terms with, is that it take a very sick atmosphere for this sort of thing to be able to work.

Chick-Fil-A one day, soft drinks another, calling someone anti-women the next...

This type of stuff is very chilling if it can work, because what comes next is unthinkable.

[Getsmart64]

I'm still a bit confused about the Chicago deal. Was Chick-Fil-A trying to open a new franchise within the city limits and the knuckleheads went on their fake rampage about homos or did Rahm and this Moreno dude just open their mouths spouting crap when Chick-Fil-A had no plans on opening another franchise? Looking at their locator, they have one at Loyola and one in Lombard, IL. And this statement sounds somewhat fishy. No way he gave a crap 10 months ago about any homo stance from chick-fil-a....

Moreno said the two concessions were the result of 10 months of negotiations he had with Chick-fil-A executives as he weighed whether to support a new Chick-fil-A restaurant in his Chicago ward. He said the executives gave him documents backing up the new positions.

[nickcarraway]

From the filngs, it looks like they stopped giving to objectionable groups in 2010, well before this happened.

[Yosemitest]

Those who support homosexuals are against our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ.
These anti Christ people only bring destruction on us ALL.
I have NO sympathy for homosexuals!

Homosexuality is a "Mark" of disobedience.

It was given by our Heavenly Father to test us
to see ... if we will OBEY our Heavenly Father,
and abide by His commandments, statues, and ordinances.

Someone once asked

"Why are they [homosexuals] all so angry?"

The answer is in the definition of "REPROBATE".

rep·ro·bate \ˈre-prə-ˌbāt\ a. [L. reprobatus, reprobo, to disallow; re and probo, to prove.]

1. Not enduring proof or trial; not of standard purity or fineness; disallowed; rejected.

Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the Lord hath rejected them. Jer. 6.

2. Abandoned in sin; lost to virtue or grace.

They profess that they know God, but in works deny him, being abominable and disobedient, and to every good work reprobate. Titus 1.

3. Abandoned to error, or in apostasy. 2Tim. 3.

And the reason"why" is given in the Bible.

God has a cure for homosexuals.

But will we OBEY our Heavenly Father?

[Mr. K]

Any Freepers in Western New York want to pool together and open a Chik-fil-A franchise?

It looks like they want to expand and I guarantee they would be welcome here

[Holly_P]

Who’s a liar, Dan Cathy or a Chicago alderman? You decide, I already did.

[eyedigress]

People having dirty butt sex isn’t progressive, it’s disgusting. Chick-fil-A should tell Chicago to shove it up their dirty sex ass.

[AppyPappy]

“God has a cure for homosexuals. “

So you advocate killing homosexuals?

[Yosemitest]

I advocate OBEYING God !

[AppyPappy]

Here’s what you quoted:
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death ; their blood shall be upon them.

Do you believe it or not? If you believe it, who is going to put them to death?

[Yosemitest]

I believe God.
OBEY GOD, or suffer the consequences.

[AppyPappy]

You are a wise man for avoiding answering my question . It’s good that you know better than to stand up for that verse.

[aruanan]

I believe God. OBEY GOD, or suffer the consequences.

And God said quite clearly throughout the Bible, but especially in the New Testament, that Christians shouldn't buy anything at all from non-Christians lest they be guilty, by their exchange of money for product, of facilitating the works of unrighteousness. /sarc

[Yosemitest]

And you have a lot to learn.
Let your studies begin, 'les God reward you .... according to your works.

[BobL]

One of the groups they give money to is called the Family Research Council. They put out DETAILED report about the gay lifestyle and it was not pretty. It was sourced with 79 footnotes, almost all dealing with published books or peer-reviewed papers.

The Southern Poverty Law Center then refuted it with 10 points of their own - not a single one sourced in any way other than some vague reference to hearsay. A typical reply: “Well Joe Schmoe, professor at UC Davis, says gay parents are just as good as straights.” They used stuff like that to refute books and studies done on THOUSANDS of people.

...and they went on to call FRC a “Hate Group”, which then led to a shooting in DC. This is who we’re up against. Think about it.

[Holly_P]

If you build a new house will you also build a battlement on the roof, to keep people from falling off? That was an old testament law also.

Jesus fulfilled the law and we have a new covenant. The first death has no power over Christians. What homosexuals and other sinners should fear, including myself, is the second death.

[Yosemitest]

OBEY GOD !

[Yosemitest]

Think you,

that Jesus came to do away with the Law ?

God forbid !

A wise man one said in a meeting I attended in person:

Sin is the breaking of God's law.
Repenting of sin means being sorry you have broken God's law. I
f you are sorry, it means you do not intend breaking His law any further!
Let's illustrate it this way:
You live in a society which must be regulated according to various laws.
There are federal, state, county and local laws which regulate practically every act and deed.
Whether we are speaking here of federal laws, civil codes or simply traffic laws, the same principle applies.

You are required in order to retain your freedom and your citizenship to obey the laws of our country.
If you break some of them, it may only require a fine or a very small penalty, or even a warning, and you will be allowed to remain free.

Breaking others can be far more serious.
Grand theft, larceny, arson, robbery, burglary, auto theft or murder could get you thrown behind bars (not withstanding the terrible laxity of the courts today).

Let's suppose you have done precisely this.

Maybe, caught up in an emotional state with wrong companions, you perpetrate some act which is clearly against the law.
Let's assume you are arrested and in due time brought to trial.
But, during the trial, just as the judge has imposed upon you a terrific fine which you would never be able to pay— say, a million dollars—
a completely unknown stranger, your benefactor, stands and says,
"Your honor, I believe this man is seriously contrite.
I believe he got caught up in the emotion of the moment and was under the influence of some evil companions.
I feel he is a man of integrity and wishes truly to mend his ways and live a better life.

"Therefore, I am willing to pay his fine myself so he can go free, and he doesn't need to pay this penalty!"

Although it probably wouldn't happen in our society, it does illustrate the point.
The judge (as a type of God the Father) would say to the benefactor (who is a type of Jesus Christ and His sacrifice for our own sins),
"That will be fine!
You may step up and pay the court $1 million and we will write on the court records
that the man who has been accused is free to go."

Then the judge may look at you, the person who has been arrested, tried and sentenced, and say,
"You are free to go.
But don't ever get caught up in that kind of a situation again!"

Do you see?

You are required, as a citizen of a free country, to obey its laws, or else

In the case of God's divine laws, you are required, whether you know about them or not (ignorance of the law is no excuse), whether you are a Christian, a professing Christian or whatever, to obey God's Ten Commandments.

Though people by the millions freely break the Ten Commandments every single day, they are unknowingly coming under the penalty of the law, which is death! (Romans 6:23).

When you repent, you are saying to God you are deeply sorry you have broken His laws.

Jesus Christ of Nazareth as the counsel for the defense says to God, the Righteous Judge, that He believes in your profession of repentance
and is willing to allow His own sacrifice to be applied in your case!

Then, just as Jesus said to the woman taken in the very act of adultery, God will say the same thing to you,
"Neither do I condemn thee; go and sin no more!"


True repentance, then, means
being deeply sorry you have broken God's Ten Commandments,
resolving through the power of God's Holy Spirit and the help of Jesus Christ as your daily High Priest and Intercessor,
not to break the Ten Commandments henceforth.

Don't fall into Satan's deception of believing that God's Laws , The Ten Commandments are done away with.

[Holly_P]

I obey God, I just don’t obey Yosemitest’s version of Him. Please don’t kill any homosexuals, it’s a crime and a sin.

[Holly_P]

“Think you,

that Jesus came to do away with the Law ?”

Think you that I said that anywhere at any time? To state it as you did is to imply that I did and that’s deception on a grand scale.

I said in a very clear way that Jesus fulfilled the law and we are living under the new covenant, which by the way, includes the 10 commandments, which Jesus reconfirmed. We no longer have to sacrifice goats and rams, men no longer must be circumcised in their fore skins and homosexuals are no longer to be killed for their homosexuality.

Your statement that:

“Don’t fall into Satan’s deception of believing that God’s Laws , The Ten Commandments are done away with.”

You are lying again by implication, I never said that nor did I imply it, a total fabrication on your part.

You didn’t answer my question yet. Do you or do you not have a battlement on your roof? Would you or would you not build one if you were building a new house?

[Yosemitest]

It's NOT a sin.
It's required of us by our Heavenly Father.

[Yosemitest]

Your answer is here.

[Holly_P]

“It’s NOT a sin.
It’s required of us by our Heavenly Father.”

Tell everyone else what you are talking about. What is required by our heavenly Father? Spit it out. Ought we kill homosexuals? You are wrong and one very misguided individual.

I will pray for you and yours.