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‘Illegal’ dehumanizes
The Washington Times ^ | September 24, 2012 | REP. MIKE HONDA California Democrat Vice chairman, Democratic National Committee

Posted on 09/24/2012 5:29:16 PM PDT by mdittmar

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Darn illegal word,wish it would just go away,let's call them,breaking our laws visitors,or maybe,what border,I didn't see it vacationers.
1 posted on 09/24/2012 5:29:18 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

Illegal does not dehumanize it identifies.


2 posted on 09/24/2012 5:31:18 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

They would prefer ‘invaders’ instead?


3 posted on 09/24/2012 5:32:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: mdittmar

OK. Law breaking immigrant. Criminal immigrant.


4 posted on 09/24/2012 5:33:04 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: svcw

What else can you call someone who snuck into the country illegally.

These bleeding heart Journalists are so full of shiite.


5 posted on 09/24/2012 5:33:30 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: mdittmar

Dehumanize?? Words having to do with law and citizenship apply ONLY TO humans!


6 posted on 09/24/2012 5:33:30 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: mdittmar

Assuming there are 30 million illegals in America, that’s enough to create some 50 congressional districts and they don’t even need to vote to do it. If they do vote, you can pretty much count on those districts being almost exclusively democrat. As it is we don’t know how many districts exist almost wholly due to the presence of illegals.

The costs of administering a single district must run into the millions. How much pork can a district seek? How many earmarks? What will all those new democrat congressmen vote for?

If you think Obamacare is bad, you haven’t seen squat. Wait till the day all those democrats start dictating how many cars a family can have, what job you can have, or where you can live. Wait till they dictate that all paychecks come from government and you get a small cut of what is left over.

Illegals are nothing but government growth hormone and amnesty today is nothing short of treason.


7 posted on 09/24/2012 5:33:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: mdittmar

“Undocumented” sounds so much better. The term suggests that there’s just a paperwork problem. No biggie.


8 posted on 09/24/2012 5:34:01 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: mdittmar

How about criminals?


9 posted on 09/24/2012 5:34:23 PM PDT by cardinal4 (If Baraq Hussein Obama had a son he would look like Rageboy)
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To: mdittmar
ILLEGAL ALIEN!
10 posted on 09/24/2012 5:34:32 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

In like fashion a drug dealer can be an “undocumented pharmicist”.


11 posted on 09/24/2012 5:36:05 PM PDT by mkmensinger
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To: mdittmar

Mr. Honda, I suggest you quickly make an appointment with a proctologist to have your head examined.


12 posted on 09/24/2012 5:37:27 PM PDT by ransacked
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To: mdittmar

If you don’t like the word “illegal immigrant” we could substitute “intruder”.

Identifying them for what they are in no way detracts from them as human beings. They may be perfectly fine human beings but they are uninvited and hence the term “illegal”.

Illegal immigrants can be from anywhere.

They need to go back there.


13 posted on 09/24/2012 5:37:41 PM PDT by marron
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To: mdittmar

This is from the Washington TIMES?

Man, they’ve gone totally progressive too?

Ugg.... just ugg.


14 posted on 09/24/2012 5:38:02 PM PDT by Individual Rights in NJ (Want to join my new country in Greenland? Like the Danes will stop us; pft!)
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To: mdittmar

Then don’t become an illegal. Problem solved.


15 posted on 09/24/2012 5:40:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Imagine how bad these global protests would be, if Obama hadn't won us so many new friends.)
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To: Venturer

I got a ticket a while back for an “Illegal Lane Change”,now I’m pissed,I feel dehumanized,I’m thinking about suing!


16 posted on 09/24/2012 5:41:19 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

Lets play along and humanize them.
“Humans from another country in this country illegally, committing illegal acts by their very presence.”

There. All nice and human.

If they don’t like it, they we default to “Illegal Alien”. Same thing, less verbage.


17 posted on 09/24/2012 5:41:36 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: mdittmar

Is entering the country illegally a felony? If not, it should be. Then we could just call them felons. And it would be the truth.


18 posted on 09/24/2012 5:42:16 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: svcw

If “illegal” hurts their feelings, perhaps they will leave, and go someplace where they are legal.


19 posted on 09/24/2012 5:43:06 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: originalbuckeye

First time it is a misdemeanor. Returning after being deported is a felony.


20 posted on 09/24/2012 5:44:19 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: mdittmar
The New York Times still uses "illegal immigrant":

The New York Times explains why it still uses ‘illegal immigrant’
21 posted on 09/24/2012 5:48:01 PM PDT by yellowhammer
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To: mdittmar

Mike Honduuuuh BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. If you want the rest of the US to look like California then vote O


22 posted on 09/24/2012 5:49:56 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: mdittmar

This should have a bucket warning


23 posted on 09/24/2012 5:52:36 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: cripplecreek

Hear hear!


24 posted on 09/24/2012 5:52:57 PM PDT by Calliecat
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To: mdittmar

Perhaps illegals could go home and apply to enter our country legally if they find being criminals dehumanizing. Problem solved.


25 posted on 09/24/2012 5:53:40 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Venturer
These bleeding heart Journalists are so full of shiite.

The problem is that this garbage was written by a sitting Congressman (one who represents the district just south of the one where I live), who is supposed to represent the citizens of the United States and has sworn to uphold the Constitution.
Therein lies the problem. We not only have a subversive Media, we also have subversive 'leaders' in Washington D.C. ...
I believe Mr. Honda crawled out of the public teacher's union swamp, and was able to garner sympathy, and win his first election, by pitching the 'woe is me - my U.S. citizen parents were absconded into internment camps' (complain to FDR ya commie - sez I)...

26 posted on 09/24/2012 5:56:12 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: mdittmar

So Mr Honda, What would you call an illegal immigrant, carrying an illegal weapon, smuggling illegal drugs, with an illegal driver’s license?


27 posted on 09/24/2012 6:00:12 PM PDT by ImNotLying (Politicians and diapers should be changed often and for the same reason!)
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To: mdittmar

Yeah, and “rapist” dehumanizes men who rape, just as “thief” dehumanizes those who have steal things. Words mean things, and if you are illegally invading my country to steal our wealth and jobs, then it is stupid to invent a nice euphemism to avoid hurting your feelings.

But, it would be easier to call them what they are: invader, and take appropriate action.


28 posted on 09/24/2012 6:01:40 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: svcw
OMG, that is EXACTLY what I was going to say, to the letter.

Whatever word we chose to replace it with, even if that word were a completely made-up word that has no meaning whatsoever today, would soon be recognized by everyone and would necessarily also identify the group of people we are talking about. Then I suppose they would want to outlaw that word, too. And so on, ad infinitum.

So what's their game plan?

Simple: to prevent anyone from ever even talking about the problem.

29 posted on 09/24/2012 6:02:38 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: svcw
The only thing "broken" about our immigration system is the Marxists currently in charge let it allow invaders in, feeds them, pays them, and doesn't deport them.

"Illegal" would not be my preferred term. "Invaders in the open, x hundered meters, load WP, fire for effect" would make me much happier.....

30 posted on 09/24/2012 6:12:17 PM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: mdittmar

If they wanted human dignity, they should have knocked on the front door, rather than sneaking in through the back door. “Illegal” aliens ARE “less than”, and the politicians and Church officials are doing them no favors when they pat them on the head and say that the backdoor is ok. They are reinforcing their neediness and short-term, survival mode thinking, instead of their dignity.

1, Close the back door!

2. Open the front door to the correct size to accommodate a reasonably generous number of future good citizens.

3. Invite people who care about downtrodden people in other countries to consider helping them over there, with long term improvements in their own country, rather than encouraging them to do the desperate and demeaning act of trying to sneak into our back door.


31 posted on 09/24/2012 6:14:20 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Feckless
The only thing "broken" about our immigration system is the Marxists currently in charge let it allow invaders in, feeds them, pays them, and doesn't deport them.

So basically the same things the republicans did.
32 posted on 09/24/2012 6:14:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: mdittmar

“The I-word, short for “illegal alien,” “illegal immigrant” and like harmful terms, is a racially charged slur used to strip immigrants of their humanity.”

Nonsense - accepting, excusing and forgiving ILLEGAL immigration is a moral insult to LEGAL immigrants coming from anywhere in the world, and it “dehumaizes” and trivializes the moral, legal effort they made in legally coming to this country and legally obtaining its benefits for their children.

To put illegal immigrants in the same pride of place as legal immigrants is an insult; it says to the legal immigrant “screw you”, your efforts were a waste of time; all you needed to do was to get into Mexico and walk across the border and then declare, with the rest, your ‘right’ to be here.”


33 posted on 09/24/2012 6:20:12 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: LibWhacker
Whatever word we chose to replace it with, even if that word were a completely made-up word that has no meaning whatsoever today,

You should read The Language of the 3rd Reich. It talks about how the nazis changed the language to manipulate German society.

Look at the success the left has been in changing the language in America. The word "militia" used to conjure up images of patriotism and honor among the American people but now even among many on the right it conjures of images of racism, conspiracy theorists, or islamic savages.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Language-Third-Reich-Imprerii/dp/0826457770
34 posted on 09/24/2012 6:25:21 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: LibWhacker

Great minds think alike. ;-)


35 posted on 09/24/2012 6:26:53 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: mdittmar; All

Better yet....they are CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS since everyone, by their presence illegally in the US, is breakign the law

I am so tired of these Hispano-Racists calling me “Racist” because I do not want to give Criminal Illegal Aliens “Amnesty”. Illegals need to be rounded up and sent home

Illegal Alien Amnesty is Anti-American Bigotry. There is the real racism


36 posted on 09/24/2012 6:27:30 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: mdittmar
Nothing new here. Just some Demoncrat statists hard at work on the 2012 revision of the 1984 Newspeak dictionary.

The word "murderer" is hateful as well. Maybe we should call murderers "population control engineers" instead.

Same for a "thief," which should probably be changed to "capital redistributionist" or something similarly inane.

Liberal is progressive. Abortionist is pro-choice. Negro is Black is African-American. Homosexual is gay. Taxes are investments. Global warming is now climate change. The list goes on forever.

37 posted on 09/24/2012 6:29:45 PM PDT by MCH
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To: svcw

All they gotta’ do is go home and away goes the shame.


38 posted on 09/24/2012 6:34:23 PM PDT by muawiyah
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'Illegal’ dehumanizes

Illegals dehumanize themselves, and go to great pains and hardship to do so.

Who are we to argue with or oppose their sincere intent?

39 posted on 09/24/2012 6:39:32 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: mdittmar

I sent this to the Times:

Words mean things! “Illegal defines the process by which the person immigrated to this country.

“Illegal” defines the extent to which those individuals contribute to the slave wages of those who have LEGALLY immigrated to America.

There is an established process for LEGALLY IMMIGRATING to this country. Those who evade that process and SNEAK into this country anyway, are here ILLEGALLY!!

Those who are here ILLEGALLY exacerbate this country’s UNEMPLOYMENT PROBLEM.
In fact, they have driven a high volume of LEGAL IMMIGRANTS to flee America and return to their country, due to lack of work here.


40 posted on 09/24/2012 6:40:37 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: mdittmar

Show some compassion.

Drop the “illegal alien” and go back to “wetback”.

If it was good enough for politicians in the President Reagan era it should be good enough for us.


41 posted on 09/24/2012 6:41:20 PM PDT by Iron Munro (US Embassies Come and Go But An Obama Apology Lasts Forever)
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To: mdittmar

OK, how about “crimials?”

Or “invaders?”

Or good old-fashioned “law breakers?”

Or “thieves?”

Do any of those “dehumanize?”


42 posted on 09/24/2012 6:41:28 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
This is from the Washington TIMES? Man, they’ve gone totally progressive too?

It is just a letter to the editor, not a Times editorial. Most newspapers print opposing opinions.

Since the letter reveals the idiocy of the Vice Chairman of the DNC, I'm glad the WT printed it.

43 posted on 09/24/2012 6:42:17 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Iron Munro
If it was good enough for politicians in the President Reagan [Eisenhower] era it should be good enough for us.

Then on June 17, 1954, what was called "Operation Wetback" began. Because political resistance was lower in California and Arizona, the roundup of aliens began there. Some 750 agents swept northward through agricultural areas with a goal of 1,000 apprehensions a day.
By the end of July, over 50,000 aliens were caught in the two states. Another 488,000, fearing arrest, had fled the country.

By mid-July, the crackdown extended northward into Utah, Nevada, and Idaho, and eastward to Texas.

By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and an estimated 500,000 to 700,000 illegals had left the Lone Star State voluntarily.

44 posted on 09/24/2012 6:57:52 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: TChad

Thanks for the clarification.


45 posted on 09/24/2012 6:59:17 PM PDT by Individual Rights in NJ (Want to join my new country in Greenland? Like the Danes will stop us; pft!)
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To: Irenic
Criminal immigrant.

I prefer Crimigants. Or Crimaliens.

46 posted on 09/24/2012 7:02:50 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.)
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To: mdittmar

If they don’t like it, then they shouldn’t become one. It’s really not that difficult to grasp folks.


47 posted on 09/24/2012 7:05:57 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: mdittmar

I dont think Willard has ever callled them ILLEGAL ALIENS

her just goes along with the other enablers and calls them undocumented, immigrants, future Americans etc...

and he has been known to call them “employees”


48 posted on 09/24/2012 7:07:15 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Crimigants...I like that one!


49 posted on 09/24/2012 7:07:32 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Right Wing Assault

I don’t care if we call them any of your choices as long as they are kicked out and get in line. Too many people fill out the paperwork and wait their turn to allow this to continue. Some say you can’t hunt them down, but thats not necessary they show up, at the ER, Schools, Malls, Job sites. Our laws should be the exact immigration laws Mexico uses. Voting too. You can’t vote in Mexico without a voter ID. Why is this so difficult to understand. We are a Nation not a mall. The 14th admendment was never intended to allow ILLEGALS the right to slide into the US while in labor and drop a kid. Its intent was to guarantee citizenship for blacks after the civil war. Anchors belong on a boat not a person. I spent 20 years in he military and my youngest was born in Korea. She was not offered Korean citizenship. The only ay to dehumananize someone is to abort them. The motto should be Your Human and you ass is headed beck to you own Country.


50 posted on 09/24/2012 7:13:04 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Mitt better grow a pair or this thing will be over soon.)
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