Skip to comments.Lawsuit filed to remove Obama from Mississippi ballot
Posted on 09/24/2012 5:33:57 PM PDT by Elderberry
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If at first you don’t succeed, try again. Good luck Orly. I think the odds are against any state court giving a damn.
I like this lady,,,, go baby go,,,, and hit the rest of America while your at it!!!!
the judicial system is in the tank.
this is stupid beyond comprehension. a certificate of live birth would end it all.
i still have problems with the fact that obama sr. was not an American citizen, so i don’t think he should have been in office to begin with.
i have problems with the pubs not pursuing this. if you have nothing to hide, then don’t hide it. God, they were after romney’s tax returns. show an official birth certificate.
sorry, i was not a birther to begin with, thought it was nonsense.
i have had to show my birth certificate time and time again to do about anything.
the obamanation is an illegal alien, i want to see his college admission papers, i want to see his real birth certificate and i want the supreme court to define “natural citizen”.
i am tired of the hem and hawing around this. does anyone have balls?
Sheriff Joe will be standing next to the inauguration stand waiting to arrest the sob. Even if he signs a pardon for himself right before he steps down, it won't count because he will not be a constitutionally legal president.
Every executive order he has signed during his term including every law he approved will be null and void. The next president will have the right to overrule all EOs and laws, etc that the illegal kenyan touched during his 4 years.
This is my take on what should be done and what could happen.
The reason Obama’s BC had to be forged even though the information on it “matches” the original record using that name, birthdate, etc.... is because the record itself is not valid - as confirmed by HI registrar Alvin Onaka to AZ SOS Ken Bennett through his failure to verify any birth facts for Mr. Obama - and contains notations that show its non-validity.
That is why HI registrar Alvin Onaka confirmed to AZ SOS Ken Bennett that the WH image is NOT a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file.” And that’s why Onaka confirmed to KS SOS Kris Kobach that the information in the WH image is NOT “identical to” the information on the original record.
The forgery would not be necessary if the record was valid. And the real problem for Obama is that without a valid record, there is no way anybody can know when, where, and to whom he was born. Nobody can certify him as eligible - and the election documents submitted to put him on the ballot thus constitute election fraud (and perjury, if they claim he is eligible).
Obama should not be allowed on the ballot because he does not have the lawful filing papers to get on any ballot. All he has is fraudulent and/or perjurious filing documents, which must be rejected unless the SOS him/herself is also committing election fraud and misprision of perjury.
I’ve got tons of stuff to document what I’m saying, at my blog at http://www.butterdezillion.wordpress.com . Just start clicking links.
A letter from Attorney Larry Klayman explaining this legal situation was sent to SOS Hosemann (received Sept 4th), AG Hood (received Sept 11), and MS Dem Party Chair Jamie Franks (delivered Sept 17).
In addition, the Mississippi Democratic Executive Committee understood Onaka’s verification to AZ SOS Ken Bennett as confirming a non-valid record, as evidenced by the fact that their own verification request was fashioned specifically to work for a non-valid record. And even at that, they clarified in their legal filing in a court case with Taitz that “information” only refers to BIRTH FACTS (not filing or processing information such as those which would indicate the validity or non-validity of the record). IOW, they made sure not to say that the record was valid, since they had ample evidence from Bennett’s verification that the record is NOT legally valid.
It was the request by MDEC and their court filing which made me realize that even hostile lawyers recognized Onaka’s verification to Bennett as a confirmation that Obama’s HI birth record is non-valid. MDEC was too smart by half, and now they’ve got troubles on their hands.
Romney will have full authority to nullify every EO Obama ever wrote with a single or individual EOs of his own regardless of Obama’s legal status. If he does not do so, then we have a problem.
No if he does not Cancel Obama Executive Orders ROMNEY has a problem. We need to go to DC by the thousands and make damned sure he does as he is supposed to.
Not really. Obama had been at this for 4 years and Congress hasn’t done squat to him. Think they will hammer their own guy?
I hope MR does turn out to be a good Prez. I really do. And I do believe he will win, my MANY reservations about him aside. But it will be “us”, not him with the problem if he does not.
Just wonder if the PhonyCon Media....GOP Talk Radio and publications....will start covering Obama Eligibility....instead of attacking Birthers, like the Liberal Media does.
The lawsuits need to continue...one will eventually be heard. Eventually a judge will have to realize that indeed voters do have “standing”
But.....if he is arrested and convicted of the crime of obtaining the office of the president of the united states illegally under the constitution, it doesn’t matter if Romney doesn’t write an EO or EOs to overturn Obama’s 4 years. Those Obama EOs will automatically be null and void. President Romney will be automatically starting with a new slate. Obamacare, etc will be no more. Even both houses will have to begin start over with all new legislation. This could be HUGE.
I have no doubt that Orly’ will have Obama dropped from the ballot in Mississippi.
And once Mississippi shows the nation that Obama was born in Kenya and not qualified for the office, they will also have to drop Obama from the ballot.
When should we,expect this ruling?
`I don’t wanna sound like the guy with the Sammich board screaming “The end id nigh!” but there have been a humber of articles on FR by constitutional types saying that Starre Deicisis and other issues do not automaticly null his BS.
I like to think they are full of it, but no way will it all just go poof. The lawsuits by dems would take years to GET to court, much less be ruled on.
Not to mention that Sotomayor and Kagan will be removed from the SCOTUS as will every other judge that Obama appointed.
Obama could also be prosecuted for the murder of every US service member who died following under his false command and he could also be prosecuted for the murder of every non American who died and the hands of US forces.
I read that the next hearing will be in about a month.
Time is running out.
Thanks for the ping!
Good luck with that.
Waste of time. 0bama is not going to win Mississippi anyway. Take him off the ballot in a blue state (if you can).
You might not want to waste your time responding to sarcasm.
If it does not happen as you state, then We the People need to push until it does happen.
...hauling in the new catch.
Very happy my state is getting in on the action.
I am as avid an anti Obama person as there is. However, talk of sheriff Joe being able to anything at an inaugural is no way a reality. First of all he is out of his bailiwick in Arizona and secondly there would be a host of SS men guarding the imposter. It is the gutless congressmen and judges that need to show a recognition of 50% of the people.
Not to nit pick, but since when does an Arizona county sheriff’s jurisdiction stretch all the way across the country to Washington D.C.
Now don’t get me wrong, there was plenty wrong with what you said, I just picked the most egregious error.
I’ve been saying it for weeks, but I’ll say it again. More and more posts are sounding like Jr. High fantasies than anything resembling solid legal or political thought.
Thanks for the Ping. FRmail on its way to you.
Stamp on upper left says Feb 19 2009.
Wonder when the guy that got hold of it originally got it (can’t remember his name)
On the fourth document, the one with the footprint.
It looks like Orly has discovery. All that is needed is effective discovery.
Lets see the 2 paper copies that Obama got last year, and the microfiche and bound copy in HI.
Icing on the cake: deposition of Pelosi about what she used to certify Obama, and why she signed 2 papers for certification of Obama for the ballot in HI (one with and one without an eligibility clause).
And few years from now, somebody from Hawaii will spill the beans. They will get a check for 10 or 20 grand to tell the story.
We know, through your efforts and others, much of the details. He was not born at that hospital. No father was listed. Frank Davis is his father. Only the Obamas know where he was born.
We have the most powerful government in the world being run by a man who could not legally acquire a passport or drivers license, who dodged the selective service and defrauded Social Security and every citizen with his forged documents
And right now he have a picture developing in slow motion before us. Every state SOS at this point knows that they have been given a fraudulent and perjurious Certificate of Nomination. The HDOH itself has told us this. And each SOS has to decide whether they are going to align their actions with the legal truth and the law, or with a media-created alternate reality.
What’s that show where they stage and record situations in order to see how people will respond? If this wasn’t so deadly serious it would be hilarious to watch. Every state SOS has been set up in a live-on-camera scenario where the audience knows that the SOS knows they are being given perjurious documents. And we’re all watching to see what they will do. Will they smooth things over like the actors in the scenario - who act like everything is fine or that they don’t know what’s going on - or will they do the right thing?
Large portions of the voting public are stupid and/or misinformed. But these are supposedly the cream of the crop, and they have specifically been notified of the truth by an attorney in a certified-mail letter. If we have this level of lawlessness within our own government, on open, proud display for all the world to see... then turn out the lights, the party’s over. No nation can survive that level of corruption and lawlessness.
-——they have been given a fraudulent and perjurious Certificate of Nomination-——
Please show us how this statement is true?
Please provide the certification of nomination document and show precisely how it is fraudulent and perjurious.
Having seen the certificates of nomination issued in ‘08 I know they were neither.
Hawaii doesn’t have to honor the subpoenas issued through court action in another state.
And they won’t.
That’s why Obama won’t submit any document. Once a document is submitted, the original HAS to be made available for inspection to the opposing party; the submission into court records is permission for that to happen.
Unless that happens, Hawaii can reject any subpoena from another state.
And we’ve all seen how even CONGRESS is able to get federal government workers to submit to subpoenas. (Eric Holder...) cough.
This issue is not going to be settled by civil courts. They have all been corrupted. This issue is going to be settled by SOS’s who know they will be hauled off to CRIMINAL court if they themselves commit election fraud by accepting a known-perjurious Certification of Nomination and allowing it to be used to get Obama’s name on the ballot.
And they’re not even going to consider criminal charges a possibility unless somebody in the major media (e.g. Associated Press) gets real and reports the true legal facts to a duped public. And until we let them know that we are informed and watching.
That’s a tall order. Please pray and work with me to see this done.
Better yet. Larry Klayman will show you how it is true. You can see the letter that he sent to DNC Counsel Bob Bauer, the DNC Executive Committee, the Commission on Presidential Debates, every state democratic party chair, every state Secretary of State, and every state Attorney General, at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/complete-klayman-letter-to-bauer.pdf
To understand why both the Mississippi Democratic Executive Committee’s verification and KS SOS Kris Kobach’s verification are legally worthless, read http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/wheel-of-fortune-v-family-feud-final.pdf
And realize that even the lawyers for the Mississippi Democratic Executive Committee understood Onaka’s verification to AZ SOS Bennett as being a confirmation of a non-valid BC for Obama - because their request was designed to work perfectly fine for a NON-VALID BC. And they were sure to say in their legal filing when they presented their verification that they only meant BIRTH FACTS when they said “information” (not processing facts such as the validity of the record).
Also bear in mind that Onaka sees a distinction between saying information is “identical to” and saying that information “matches”. We know this because KS SOS Kris Kobach asked Onaka to verify that the information contained in the WH image “is identical to” the information contained in the original record, and Onaka WOULD NOT verify that. Instead he illegally verified something he was not asked to verify: that the information MATCHED.
The difference? If something “matches”, it means that where there is an entry in the WH image, there is the same entry on the original. If the records are “identical to”, then even the LACK OF AN ENTRY has to be the same for both documents. They have to be identical even when the field is left blank.
The White House image leaves item 23 blank (Evidence for Delayed Filing or Alteration). There’s nothing on the WH BC to try to “match” so that field doesn’t get compared to the original. But in order for the WH information for item 23 to be IDENTICAL, it has to be blank on the original if it’s blank on the WH image.
And that’s where Onaka balked. He would not verify that the information is IDENTICAL. He will only say that it “matches” (that is, that where something is actually listed on the WH image, the same thing is listed on the original).
“Hawaii doesnt have to honor the subpoenas issued through court action in another state.” - BD
I thought they (HI) did have to comply. (if there was a valid legal interest - or some such)
In the ballot case in GA was HI subpoenaed for original/full records?
If so, by whom?
What was the reply?
I believe so, and the response was that HI doesn’t have to honor subpoenas from other states.
I know I did some looking to try to find out if they have to, and they don’t. That’s why Arpaio really wants a federal investigation; federal subpoenas have to be honored. That’s also why Eric Holder is the critical piece in this whole coup.
I vaguely recall that HI claimed that the subpoena from GA was not valid - because of some technicality (like service), not because they claimed immunity from *all* civil subpoenas from other states.
If that .pdf file that Obama claims is his BC is accepted by the courts, then I should be able to use xerox copies of $100 bills to buy stuff at WalMart.
Just as Bill Clinton is on center stage, Lewinsky is writing her tell all book about the accused rapist.
I don't care what people call me, I proudly tell everyone I know that the BC is fraudulent. I have 30 years in electrical engineering and computer science, and stake my reputation on it in every conversation I have.
Liberals may not care that he is not qualified, but they can't bury the fact that they have no morals or scruples.
The MSM don’t cover any of these filings.
Posts like yours make me want a “like” button on FR, a la Facebook.
(Instead, I have to type this long reply.)
“If we have this level of lawlessness within our own government, on open, proud display for all the world to see... then turn out the lights, the partys over.”
We all want to be optimistic, but all evidence shows we have reached exactly that level. The reluctance of judges, congressmen, et al., to pay the high price of throwing out an ineligible but sitting president is understandable (even if craven). We can take for granted that the media and the courts are partisan, and that Hawaii’s government is a corrupt cesspit with much to hide. But what dismays me is that since 2009, in the face of a manifest deficiency in the electoral system, wherein candidates never have to prove their constitutional qualifications to ANYONE, the US Congress has not held a single hearing to investigate how this could be, or how it must be corrected. Not a a single state government has acted to pass effective laws to require all candidates for office to submit documentary proof of eligibility to their Secretary of State prior to approval for ballot access. The burden of positive proof must be placed on the candidate, not on the public to prove a negative. I guess the best we can hope for is correction AFTER Obama is defeated and no longer a factor.
Second Tuesday next week.
This hearing was not about a name on a ballot. This was a federal court hearing on Dr. Taitz’s motion to return the case to state court. That motion was denied. And the case will stay in the federal court. She has 3 weeks to serve the additional defendants, who then have IIRC 30 days to respond. The upshot is that the next hearing will not be until December at the earliest. Don’t expect a ruling until early January.