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Romney mocked for comment about jet windows
La Tmes ^ | 9/24/12

Posted on 09/24/2012 6:54:53 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton

During a Saturday fundraiser in Beverly Hills, Calif., which took in $6 million, Mitt Romney expressed his concerns over Ann Romney’s emergency landing on Friday. The candidate cast doubt on the mechanical design of airplane windows, in a general sense.

“When you have a fire in an aircraft, there’s no place to go, exactly, there’s no — and you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem. So it’s very dangerous....” he said.

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Look for Obama to order all US airlines to install windows that open on all their jet aircraft.
1 posted on 09/24/2012 6:54:55 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Uncle Slayton

Every time Obama says something stupid or insane you can bet the press will ignore it and then act as if Romney did one and its a big deal.

deflect, distract and then demagogue


2 posted on 09/24/2012 6:58:50 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Uncle Slayton

At least he didn’t say: “...as the plane is flying over 57 states.”


3 posted on 09/24/2012 7:01:54 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: GeronL
Sealed airline windows can really be a “bump in the road”
4 posted on 09/24/2012 7:02:42 PM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Well, if you roll down the windows at 20,000 feet, that’s certainly not going to let in fresh air and oxygen.


5 posted on 09/24/2012 7:04:37 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: FoxInSocks

“Well, if you roll down the windows at 20,000 feet, that’s certainly not going to let in fresh air and oxygen.”

And it may mess up your hair.


6 posted on 09/24/2012 7:13:03 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: GeronL

True enough but...Romney doesn’t know why the windows on jet aircraft do not open? That’s just plain old stupidity. Obama and the media aside, that’s stupid.


7 posted on 09/24/2012 7:13:27 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

true but this happens to Biden/Obama too and no peep from the press


8 posted on 09/24/2012 7:14:43 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Uncle Slayton
The pilot can open his window.


9 posted on 09/24/2012 7:15:12 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Dear Mr. Wang,

Since you decided to slam Mitt Romney over jet airliner windows that won’t open, maybe you can explain to me why that’s the case.

My guess is this a$$#at is aware of the fact that you can’t open the windows in a jet airliner, and that’s about it.

I don’t think that for a layman, it’s unusual for them not to know why things like this don’t work, just that they don’t. He knows that if your car’s passenger compartment fills up with smoke, you open the windows. He might know that in a private plane flying at low altitudes, you might be able to do so too. He knows you can’t do that in a jet airliner, and that for some reason the designers wouldn’t allow you to open a window.

As usual, this is the press going after nothing, doing their best to embarrass their enemy as a dunderhead, like they did with Bush. They know he’s not, but they never allow truth to get in the way of their meme.

Mark


10 posted on 09/24/2012 7:15:23 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Uncle Slayton
Almost as bad as saying the murder of a US Ambassador is just “a bump in the road”
11 posted on 09/24/2012 7:15:38 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Get in a plane filled with smoke and see how long it takes you to try to open a window with any method available.

He is fortunate he is not planning a funeral for his wife. This clip is more a relating of emotion than an educated engineer comment on a viable system. Although a method to introduce air safely into a cabin that is filled with a toxin could be a great invention...


12 posted on 09/24/2012 7:17:47 PM PDT by Shanty Shaker
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I imagine he was joking.
I would like to see the video before I comment.


13 posted on 09/24/2012 7:18:34 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: FoxInSocks

Lower the plane to under 10,000 feet while you are still 20 minutes from an airport and you have a completely different set of results.


14 posted on 09/24/2012 7:21:01 PM PDT by Shanty Shaker
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To: Shanty Shaker

Having been through fires on submarines, I can tell you the atmosphere goes away FAST.


15 posted on 09/24/2012 7:21:30 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Shanty Shaker

IIRC, the procedure in some airliners for a smoke filled cockpit is to get down to 10K feet and open the cockpit windows...


16 posted on 09/24/2012 7:21:43 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: mylife

Yes, it was a joke. Everyone in the crowd laughed.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/romney-commits-gaffe-wants-to-know-why-airplane-windows-dont-open-its-a-real-problem/


17 posted on 09/24/2012 7:22:12 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Uncle Slayton
Some of the windows do open.


18 posted on 09/24/2012 7:23:01 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: icwhatudo

Thanks for that.


19 posted on 09/24/2012 7:26:01 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Uncle Slayton
Passengers who survive the crash landing of airliners commonly succumb to asphyxiation from smoke and toxic fumes while on the ground, unable to escape the confines of a wrecked fuselage. Some kind of emergency access to outside air would have saved many lives through the years.
20 posted on 09/24/2012 7:28:58 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Shanty Shaker

Why stop the hypothetical at 10,000 feet and 20 miles? Let’s place the plane on the ground and remove its passengers, crew, and cargo.


21 posted on 09/24/2012 7:29:35 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: Uncle Slayton
OTHER ISSUES TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT...taking a Romney campaign joke out of context, especially from the LA Times simply needs to be ignored...and not even commented on.

OBAMA....remember? Anybody but Obama...

When do the X-Factor and American Idol threads start???

22 posted on 09/24/2012 7:31:18 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: Uncle Slayton
HEY, LA TIMES! Let's focus on this, okay?

I mean, we don't need to talk about the fact that Obama called the death of four Americans, including the United States Ambassador to Libya, A FREAKIN' "BUMP IN THE ROAD".

Why, then, you'd actually be doing real reporting.

And we know you simply cannot have that, you Press Pravda bastards.

23 posted on 09/24/2012 7:35:16 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Gingers have no souls.)
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To: FoxInSocks

At 10-12K feet most people can breathe okay.

When an airliner has a depressurization, they do an emergency descent to this altitude.

When an airliner has one of it’s aircon packs fail, it is typically limited to 25K feet for any flights, so that it can get down to 10K feet in time if the second pack fails.

The altitude limit of some airliners is not set because the plane can’t fly any higher, it’s set because the plane can’t get back down to breathable air fast enough in the event of a pressurization failure.


24 posted on 09/24/2012 7:37:19 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: icwhatudo
Yes, it was a joke. Everyone in the crowd laughed.

Figures. The LA Times. The Pravda Press.

The American Media is completely, 100% Soviet-ized. This is exactly what it was like to live in Russia and have Pravda and Isvestia as your news sources.

Exactly.

25 posted on 09/24/2012 7:38:19 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Gingers have no souls.)
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To: FoxInSocks

That is what they did in this case. Getting down that fast is not always possible.


26 posted on 09/24/2012 7:39:26 PM PDT by Shanty Shaker
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To: Yo-Yo

There is also an escape hatch on the cockpit roof of some airliners, most notably the 747 series. Here it is being used to help clean the windshields.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/7/6/7/0968767.jpg


27 posted on 09/24/2012 7:39:49 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Shanty Shaker

The plane must meet the rules for descending to 10-12K feet in a short time, or it will not be certified to carry passengers.


28 posted on 09/24/2012 7:42:45 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Uncle Slayton

I would not have enjoyed being on that aircraft. Declaring an emergency, smoke in cabin... can you imagine the descent from 40k? I’m afraid they would have to pry my butt cheeks loose from the seat with the jaws of life when the thing rolled to a stop.


29 posted on 09/24/2012 7:42:56 PM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: Uncle Slayton

And they say Romney is just like the rest of us...


30 posted on 09/24/2012 7:46:36 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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To: Uncle Slayton

If Sarah Palin had ever said that she’d never live it down.


31 posted on 09/24/2012 7:47:02 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Lazamataz

And just as in the soviet union, political dissidents sometimes are killed by the regime. Just that the rot is global now, nowhere to run to.


32 posted on 09/24/2012 7:47:33 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: ltc8k6

The time it can take to get from 10,000 feet to safely landed at an airport is the luxury..


33 posted on 09/24/2012 7:49:51 PM PDT by Shanty Shaker
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To: Shanty Shaker

Oh yes, with a cockpit fire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swissair_Flight_111


34 posted on 09/24/2012 7:55:24 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Uncle Slayton; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

Do windows open in the bus that Romney now finds hisself under?


35 posted on 09/24/2012 7:55:46 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Uncle Slayton
OK I give in; that really IS a gaffe.

What is he going to say next? Opening windows in submarines?

We're going to need lots and lots of Science advisors for the next administration.

But not nearly as many as the current 60 IQ Bunch.

"There was a team of Obama people speaking to Mr. C. (engineer, automotive experience of 40+ years, and Chairman of CAR). They were explaining to Mr. C. that the auto companies needed to make a car that was electric and liquid natural gas (LNG) with enough combined fuel to go 500 miles so we wouldn't "need" so many gas stations (a whole other topic). They were quoting BTUs of LNG and battery life that they had looked up on some website.
Mr. C. explained that to do this you would need a TRUNK FULL of batteries and a LNG tank as big as the car to make that happen, and that there were certain laws of physics that prevented them from...
The Obama person interrupted and said (and I am quoting here):
"These laws of physics? Whose rules are those? We need to change that."
(Some of the others wrote down the law so they could look it up later.)
"We have the congress and administration. We can repeal that law, amend it, or use an executive order to get rid of that problem. That's why we are here, to fix these sort of issues."

.......And these are the people who are going to fix healthcare. And stop the rising oceans; and have all koranimals worldwide singing Kum-ba-ya, if only the 'Great Uniter had one more term... or three or four!

36 posted on 09/24/2012 8:08:54 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: icwhatudo

Stupid Daily Kos commenter says Mitt wants to open the window at 35,000 feet and get a taste of that 500 mph wind. That’s the groundspeed, Bozo. The “wind” would be the least of the problems. Who’s the idiot here?


37 posted on 09/24/2012 8:10:01 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Shanty Shaker

Bet he was thinking of the forced landing his wife’s plane made and his comment came from wondering why the windows don’t open in case of emergency (on the ground) like bus windows.


38 posted on 09/24/2012 8:57:32 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Uncle Slayton

I have.felt the same way when encountering turbulence in private jet or commercial.

I just think “Wish the window coukd be opened if we crash. Sure would save me the trouble of fighting over the top of everyone else and trying to push the confused person out of the way, who can’t seem to fighre out how to open the door and toss on a seat....”


39 posted on 09/24/2012 8:59:52 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Yo-Yo

Yep. Escape over a wing. My fear is the engines will still be turning...


40 posted on 09/24/2012 9:03:31 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

I was right. Read the story and he was talking about his wife’s situation. AND it was a joke.


41 posted on 09/24/2012 9:05:28 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: mylife

The PAC’s on an airplane bring in outside air on a constant basis.

We are not electing Paul Ryan...and the other guy, to an engineering position.

Emotions can addle ones thoughts though.


42 posted on 09/24/2012 9:10:52 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Lazamataz

Agreed! Let’s talk about the POLITICAL aspects of aviation, about airlines being flown into bankruptcy by insane Obama fuel costs and greedy unions, and don’t even GET me started on the TSA.....


43 posted on 09/24/2012 9:17:21 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: FoxInSocks
Well, if you roll down the windows at 20,000 feet, that’s certainly not going to let in fresh air and oxygen.

But it will put the fire out. Probably.

44 posted on 09/24/2012 9:24:28 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: Puckster

I would say Obama handled his last crisis worst that Romney.

At least Mitt didn’t run off to party with Beyonce after folks died, and allow the consulate to be sacked of sensitive Information.


45 posted on 09/24/2012 9:24:53 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: FoxInSocks
Well, if you roll down the windows at 20,000 feet, that’s certainly not going to let in fresh air and oxygen.

I see nowhere that 20,000 feet was mentioned.

46 posted on 09/24/2012 9:31:22 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Uncle Slayton

Per snopes:
A review of the video footage of Mitt Romney’s remarks show he did speak the words but clearly indicated that he intended the line to be taken tongue-in-cheek aside rather than as a serious statement.

Video at link. http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp


47 posted on 09/24/2012 9:38:22 PM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: Uncle Slayton

I bet the windows on his spaceship to KOLOB open just fine.


48 posted on 09/24/2012 9:39:20 PM PDT by Rome2000 (WILLARD ROMNEY -- MORMON MELCHIDEZEK BISHOP -HIS FAMILY HAS AVOIDED MILITARY SERVICE FOR GENERATIONS)
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To: Irish Eyes
I see nowhere that 20,000 feet was mentioned.

Jeez, can't a guy have a bit of fun around here anymore? Windows on airplanes don't "roll down" either.

49 posted on 09/24/2012 9:51:19 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: FoxInSocks
Jeez, can't a guy have a bit of fun around here anymore? Windows on airplanes don't "roll down" either.

LOL...sorry about that. This election season has really put me into a snit.

50 posted on 09/24/2012 9:55:56 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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