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Why Airplane Windows Donít Roll Down
ScientificAmerican ^

Posted on 09/25/2012 8:46:43 AM PDT by chessplayer

In his latest gaffe, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney lamented the fact that airplane windows don't roll down.

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Great. Now the media will focus like a laser on this and obsess over it for two weeks.
1 posted on 09/25/2012 8:46:47 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Maybe that was his plan


2 posted on 09/25/2012 8:48:59 AM PDT by al baby (¬ďIf Barack Obama has a Harvard law degree, he didn¬ít earn that. Somebody else made that happen.¬Ē)
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To: chessplayer

He probably said this just to prove how stupid and biased liberals are.


3 posted on 09/25/2012 8:49:05 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: chessplayer

“His latest gaffe.”

Yeah, no bias there.


4 posted on 09/25/2012 8:49:40 AM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: chessplayer

In some airplanes the windows most certainly DO roll down.


5 posted on 09/25/2012 8:49:51 AM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
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To: chessplayer

Someone help me remember—What did National Geographic have to say about Obama’s 57 states comment?


6 posted on 09/25/2012 8:49:59 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Re-distribute my work ethic, not my wealth.)
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To: chessplayer

Would it help if Romney called the MSM out? It’s obvious that he said this as a joke, yet the sheep all fall in line that Romney’s stupid.

I think he should call a press conference and call these lame bastards out. Tell them to start focusing on the issues and not on stupid shiite like this.


7 posted on 09/25/2012 8:51:01 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: chessplayer

Don’t worry. This “gaffe” is just another “speed bump” in the road.


8 posted on 09/25/2012 8:51:16 AM PDT by henkster (With Carter, the embassy staff was still alive.)
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To: wastedyears

He has been on plenty of airplanes, he knows about the windows. Can’t he tell a bad joke occasionally?

Think of what a huge gaffe it would be if he said “I’ve been told I’m just eye candy” or called a terror attack “a bump in the road”


9 posted on 09/25/2012 8:51:45 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: chessplayer

In an Airplane!, when time for paying the fuel bill, the window most CERTAINLY rolls down. How else is a pilot to give the attendant his credit card?


10 posted on 09/25/2012 8:51:49 AM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: chessplayer
This one does and so does this one. The Brainfart Media is as ignorant about aircraft as they are about everything else.
11 posted on 09/25/2012 8:52:37 AM PDT by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: chessplayer

Condescending pricks. I think anyone without a severe partisan ax to grind would give Romney the benefit of the doubt that he knows there’s not much air at 35,000 feet.


12 posted on 09/25/2012 8:52:57 AM PDT by DManA
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To: chessplayer

Read the comments and you’ll quickly get a sense of the leanings of this rag’s readership.


13 posted on 09/25/2012 8:52:57 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: chessplayer

Reading the comments only confirms that the knowitall oh so smart scientific weiners posting on that site have not a shred of common sense.


14 posted on 09/25/2012 8:53:27 AM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: chessplayer
Were you to open a plane window, the compressed air inside would rapidly rush out, atmospheric conditions inside and outside the plane would equalize, and everybody would die.

Maybe. But there has been several accidents where rapid depressurization occurred and there were no fatalities. Injuries were caused by flying unsecured objects.

Wishing you could open the window is actually less idiotic then the absolute claim that "everybody would die".

Maybe Mitt has flown in plenty of smaller, single or multi engine prop planes that you can in fact open the window. Heck some don't even have doors or windows.

Anyways mid-east still on fire, Obama still incompetent, and the press is worried about Mitt wanting to open a window.

15 posted on 09/25/2012 8:54:31 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: chessplayer

The problem I have with the whole thing is noone seems to give thought to the fact that Romney was probably replaying (in his mind) the emotional distress he was feeling at the time.

Many people say things they might not otherwise say, if they are thinking clearly and not emotionally distracted.

Hours, days, or years later a person will relive those emotions when discussing stressful events. I give him a pass.


16 posted on 09/25/2012 8:54:58 AM PDT by RangerM
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To: chessplayer
So, it wouldn't be reasonable to allow the windows to roll down when the plane may already be on the ground and taxiing to a stop?

I would think that might be helpful when the plane is full of smoke, as Ann Romney's was(?)

17 posted on 09/25/2012 8:55:38 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: chessplayer

People who were there are saying it was an obvious joke.


18 posted on 09/25/2012 8:55:45 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: chessplayer

How many people who have been left sitting in an airplane on the tarmac for hours with no A/C running have ever wished they could open a window? I use to fly out of Philadelphia and planes were always delayed for hours. A little fresh air would have been nice. I doubt if he was thinking about opening a window at 30,000 feet. Most people in airplane fires are usually on the ground where more avenues of escape would be a positive.


19 posted on 09/25/2012 8:56:56 AM PDT by heylady (¬ďSometimes I wish I could be a Democrat and then I remember I have a soul.¬Ē( Deb))
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To: pabianice
And then on this one

SMOKE REMOVAL requires both over-wing hatches to be OPENED and stowed, the aircraft slowed, and the smoke-removal hatch above the pilots' station to be OPENED.

Dumbass press wouldn't know an airplane from a lawn chair.

20 posted on 09/25/2012 8:57:29 AM PDT by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: RangerM

Make that, “they are emotionally distracted and not thinking clearly”.


21 posted on 09/25/2012 8:57:51 AM PDT by RangerM
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To: chessplayer

More partisan childishness from the media - this time the “Scientific American”.


22 posted on 09/25/2012 8:58:23 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: chessplayer

Ahhh...what is that old scientific movement/measurement? The one where the hand flies over the head whilst saying WHOOOSH!

That might help Scientific American catch a clue.


23 posted on 09/25/2012 8:59:29 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: pabianice
In its latest brain fart, "Scientific American" reports that airplane windows do not open in flight...
24 posted on 09/25/2012 8:59:43 AM PDT by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: chessplayer

Romney could say “The sky is clear blue today” or “According to the weather forecasters, there is a 30% chance of rain” or
“I have hair growing out of my scalp”.

All of the above statements would be considered a “Gaffe” and the LMS would fall over themselves trying to be first in exposing Romney.


25 posted on 09/25/2012 9:00:32 AM PDT by Fully Awake DAV (Navy Vet when homosexuality was not tolerated)
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To: MeganC

P-39 fighter had roll down windows.


26 posted on 09/25/2012 9:01:02 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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Boeing 777 does, too.

http://static.stomp.com.sg/site/servlet/linkableblob/stomp/551148/thumbnail/pilot_risks_life_to_clean_aircrafts_cockpit_window-thumbnail.jpg


27 posted on 09/25/2012 9:04:13 AM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
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To: chessplayer

Years ago, I had a constant subscription to Scientific American. Sometime in the 1980s it became so political I cancelled my subscription. Still have a few boxes of the old issues.


28 posted on 09/25/2012 9:04:18 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: chessplayer

Well, it’s not like the geniuses who wrote this article even bothered to find out what type of aircraft she was on. All of their calculations on why the windows can’t open and what a dummy Romney is are based on “commercial” aircraft. They didn’t even bother to notice that she was on a corporate jet (Canadair Challenger 601 aircraft)which only seats 10 passengers. I’m not saying that their findings are wrong but wouldn’t scientific method mandate (sorry, I used that word) they base their findings on the right type of aircraft? My Eight grader would have done very poorly on his science fair if HE used facts that may or may not apply.


29 posted on 09/25/2012 9:05:36 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: GeronL

Can’t he tell a bad joke occasionally?


With the American media? No. Doesn’t matter if it was a joke because that is not how the media will report it.


30 posted on 09/25/2012 9:06:06 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

I don’t know about the feasibility being able to roll down airplane windows, but isn’t asking “what if “ a good place to start with innovation? What if we could roll down windows on airplanes? What if roads wouldn’t require repaving every few years? Just imagine what the unions and pork barrel politicians would think of maintenance free roads. Asking the obvious sometimes leads to breakthroughs. It isn’t always easy to get the message through thick skulls and those who are stuck in old ways.


31 posted on 09/25/2012 9:08:00 AM PDT by virgil
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To: chessplayer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_5390

...The plane had climbed to 17300 feet over Didcot, Oxfordshire. Suddenly, there was a loud bang, and the fuselage quickly filled with condensation. The left windscreen, on the captain's side of the cockpit, had separated from the forward fuselage. Lancaster was jerked out of his seat by the rushing air and forced head first out of the cockpit, his knees snagging onto the flight controls. This left him with his whole upper torso out of the aircraft, and only his legs inside. The door to the flight deck was blown out onto the radio and navigation console, blocking the throttle control which caused the plane to continue gaining speed as they descended, while papers and other debris in the passenger cabin began blowing towards the cockpit. On the flight deck at the time, flight attendant Nigel Ogden quickly latched his hands onto the captain's belt. Susan Price and another flight attendant began to reassure passengers, secure loose objects, and take up emergency positions. Meanwhile, Lancaster was being battered and frozen in the 500 mph slipstream, and was losing consciousness due to the thin air...

No one died.

32 posted on 09/25/2012 9:09:33 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: chessplayer
Romney makes an obvious joke, and it's a "gaffe" because state-controlled media desperately needs for him to make a "gaffe."
33 posted on 09/25/2012 9:12:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: DesertRhino

Orville and Wilber didn’t have roll down windows. ;€)


34 posted on 09/25/2012 9:12:28 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Ignorance is bliss- I'm stoked)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Exactly.


35 posted on 09/25/2012 9:13:18 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Domandred

Pretty much those drop down oxygen masks are for passenger comfort. If a rapid depressurization happens, and no supplemental oxygen is available, they lose consciousness.
If the pilot descends to breathable altitude in any sane time frame, they wake up again just fine.

Most passengers do not die from a depressurization. This was Scientific American? I suppose if the cabin depressurized at 33k, and you flew along like nothing was wrong, they would die. But geez anyone can see it was a joke. It’s a safe bet he’s ridden on bizjets. Everyone i know who has traveled much on them winds up with an amateur, but far better than average understanding of flying. They are all far more conversant about the machines than you would expect.

And is this is also the same rag that is all in for human caused global warming.


36 posted on 09/25/2012 9:13:34 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: chessplayer

Scientific American is wrong.

The first thing you do is descend below 10,000 ft and flush the cockpit with outside air. The isssue is not lack of oxygen, but rather airstream.

Opening windows is not required, but I would point out that airliners have windows in the cockpit which do open.


37 posted on 09/25/2012 9:21:23 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Wuli
Years ago, I had a constant subscription to Scientific American. Sometime in the 1980s it became so political I cancelled my subscription. Still have a few boxes of the old issues.

I started my SciAm subscription in 1962 and abandoned it forever by about 1990. I even contributed some stuff. Now I look at the covers and just laugh.

38 posted on 09/25/2012 9:21:38 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: chessplayer
While you're reading the latest example of why the Scientific American is no longer a serious publication, don't miss the link to the article 6 Politicians Who Got the Science Wrong. It's good for a laugh.
39 posted on 09/25/2012 9:23:22 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: pabianice
"Scientific American" has long been becoming an oxymoron, in definitions of "scientific" and/or "American".

I stopped reading it years ago when I slowly detected a change in the quality and tone of some of the articles.

That, and it just wasn't the same w/o Martin Gardner...

40 posted on 09/25/2012 9:26:21 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: DesertRhino

How’d that pilot all but destroy the harmony of that indigenous tribe in “The Gods Must Be Crazy” if he couldn’t open a window?


41 posted on 09/25/2012 9:29:08 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Fresh Wind

Yeah I saw that, 5 Pubbies and one dem. A “token” of the apoliticalness.


42 posted on 09/25/2012 9:37:55 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Romney makes an obvious joke, and it's a "gaffe" because state-controlled media desperately needs for him to make a "gaffe."

Was there video of Romney making these statements? I haven't found any.

43 posted on 09/25/2012 9:43:53 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.)
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To: C210N

Nice “AIRPLANE!” reference.


44 posted on 09/25/2012 9:50:34 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Consider Aloha Airlines flight 243. There was a minor mechanical failure at 20,000 feet, and no one died from the decompression. The only death was a stewardess who was sucked out through the hole. Fortunately, all the passengers still had their seat belts on, and the plane landed safely.

45 posted on 09/25/2012 9:51:06 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: DesertRhino
Most passengers do not die from a depressurization.

The one exception that I can think of is a small pressurized plane carry some sports-related passengers.

Here it is: 1999 South Dakota Learjet crash

In the article, there's a link to a list of "uncontrolled decompression" accidents.

I thought of the scene from 2001, considered to be fairly realistic, but completely forgot about the Cosmonauts that had a value open too soon shortly after reentry.

Early in the US Space program, when pressure suits were being tested, one stuck a guy in a suit in a vacuum chamber. Something went wrong, but whomever created the test also had a rescue guy in a connected chamber at some partial atmosphere that would allow access relatively quickly, if something went wrong at 0 psi.

46 posted on 09/25/2012 9:52:12 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: chessplayer
It sounded to me like he was trying to make a joke, but it fell really flat.

Maybe he should forget about trying to tell jokes and stay focused on the issues.

47 posted on 09/25/2012 9:59:13 AM PDT by stable
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To: C210N

“How else is a pilot to give the attendant his credit card?”

I always got out to hand it to them.

A fuel stop was usually also a piss stop.


48 posted on 09/25/2012 9:59:49 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: chessplayer

To prevent duplication, please do not alter the published headline. Thanks.


49 posted on 09/25/2012 10:00:42 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
No video, just a pool report, and the pool reporter said he was obviously joking.

Mitt Romney Was Joking About Airplane Windows NYT's Ashley Parker

50 posted on 09/25/2012 10:01:47 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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