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10 More Tungsten-Filled Gold Bars Discovered In Manhattan
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Posted on 09/25/2012 2:02:08 PM PDT by djf

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To: djf

I use to dream of turning gold into lead, but at this point I thinking in SHTF the lead and brass might be more valuable.
51 posted on 09/25/2012 2:51:00 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Theoria

Tungsten is used in armor piercing tank rounds.


52 posted on 09/25/2012 3:02:08 PM PDT by JimC214
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To: Kartographer

Sadly, I don’t have a couple pounds of gold.

I do, however, have probably over 20 lbs of brass and lead!

Various denominations!!


53 posted on 09/25/2012 3:03:02 PM PDT by djf (Political Science: Conservatives = govern-ment. Liberals = givin-me-it.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I’m not even sure that an industrial X-ray machine would go through that.

There is no way that a specific gravity/density of the two metals would be identical, it might just take more sensitive equipment to tell the difference.


54 posted on 09/25/2012 3:13:50 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: circlecity
If tungsten shavings start coming out you have one hell of a drill bit.
55 posted on 09/25/2012 3:14:18 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: super7man
W (tungsten ) atomic weight 183.84-—Au (gold)-—— 196.97

That's a 5% difference. Should easily be able to detect by specific gravity test.

Not so, unfortunately. Atomic weight is not the same as density. Atomic weight is the weight of one mole , or 6.02 x 10**23 atoms, of a substance. Atomic weight says nothing about the volume occupied by one mole of a substance so you can't just weigh two bars of equal size and expect a 5% difference in weight if one is gold and the other tungsten.

56 posted on 09/25/2012 3:19:20 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Is that TungstenFinger???


57 posted on 09/25/2012 3:22:57 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: CrazyIvan
"If tungsten shavings start coming out you have one hell of a drill bit."

LOL. I guess I should add if pieces of drill bit start flying out then, again, it's a fake.

58 posted on 09/25/2012 3:25:30 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: djf
"Tungsten? Well, gold is good..."
59 posted on 09/25/2012 3:25:41 PM PDT by mikrofon (Quark at Work)
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To: DBrow
The W bars should sound different from gold when tapped by a hammer because it is stiffer. It rings

The ring would be suppressed by the gold coating...........

60 posted on 09/25/2012 3:27:53 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: djf

Put the bar in a hydraulic press and see if it bends. If it does, it’s gold.


61 posted on 09/25/2012 3:52:10 PM PDT by kik5150
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To: hinckley buzzard

Right, LOL. I’ll bet half the guys in the gold business there are wearing those Nolex watches and Ommy Hilfiger crap I used to see them peddling on the streets of NYC in the 1990s.


62 posted on 09/25/2012 3:57:26 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: CrazyIvan

Pure tungsten is very hard — but, tool steel can cut it. OTOH, tungsten carbide is much harder than tool steel.


63 posted on 09/25/2012 3:58:29 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Kartographer


64 posted on 09/25/2012 4:04:59 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Red Badger

Chinese... Tungsten is not easy to work with. I believe south africa has dealt with this and the bars are coming out of china.


65 posted on 09/25/2012 4:09:02 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Revel

Or use a micro-ohmmeter which will clearly distinguish between tungsten and gold. They go for about $3,000 and I think every dealer on 47th street is gonna be getting one.


66 posted on 09/25/2012 4:16:58 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What is more unseemly that the sight of Chris Matthews groveling before his own self image?)
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To: djf

What weighs more a kilogram of gold or a kilogram of cotton candy?

Actually, in the earth’s atmosphere, the gold weighs more because of the buoyancy of the cotton candy.


67 posted on 09/25/2012 4:25:15 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What is more unseemly that the sight of Chris Matthews groveling before his own self image?)
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To: DBrow

A Maltese Falcon?


68 posted on 09/25/2012 4:34:31 PM PDT by spudville
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To: SeeSharp

Yes, indeed. Thanks.


69 posted on 09/25/2012 4:40:59 PM PDT by super7man
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To: super7man

—yep—considering that the concept is three thousand years or so old, you’d think some of these financial geniuses would know about it-—


70 posted on 09/25/2012 4:48:13 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: SeeSharp

Au = 19320 kg/M*3
W = 19600 kg/M*3

Since W is more dense, this whole thing gets tough.

Go for the ultrasound solution.


71 posted on 09/25/2012 4:50:51 PM PDT by super7man
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To: djf

Eureka!


72 posted on 09/25/2012 4:55:06 PM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: djf
The ones I bought had a yummy creme filling.


73 posted on 09/25/2012 4:55:49 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Hot Tabasco

“The ring would be suppressed by the gold coating......”

That would depend on how thick the plating was, I’d imagine.

I don’t have gold, but I do have identically shaped lead, iron, tungsten, aluminum, and bismuth bars and they all have a different sound.


74 posted on 09/25/2012 5:19:21 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: djf

In the olden days a gold coin was bit to see if it was real or gold plated lead. Maybe they should drive a nail through the bars before they buy.


75 posted on 09/25/2012 5:24:30 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: spudville

Here’s to plain speaking and clear understanding.


76 posted on 09/25/2012 5:26:13 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

If you kill me, how are you gonna get the bird? And if I know you can’t afford to kill me, how are you gonna scare me into giving it to you?


77 posted on 09/25/2012 5:28:52 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

You’re right. I have done a lot of machining and just have a habit of thinking of all tungsten as tungsten carbide.


78 posted on 09/25/2012 5:29:13 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: djf

LoL, I meant would bars of the same size weight the same.

Hey I’m an old coot, gimme a break.


79 posted on 09/25/2012 8:55:30 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: TChris

Boy am I glad to have that settled.


80 posted on 09/25/2012 8:57:09 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: arrogantsob
Boy am I glad to have that settled.

...or 100 oz of water
...or 100 oz of thermite
...or 100 oz of fine, dark chocolate
...
I guess that's enough. ;)

81 posted on 09/26/2012 7:07:17 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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