Posted on 09/25/2012 2:08:24 PM PDT by NYer
” They want these kids having sex and not buying soda”
That’s it.
No, no, no. Cardinal Doloan released a typical Bishop’s wishy-washy statement about Paul Ryan when he was nominated — saying that he liked Ryan and could work with him, even though he had sharp disagreements with him. That statement was used by my Pastor to disavow support for Ryan. Dolan was the Archboishop of Milwaukee before he was the NY Cardinal and knows Ryan well.
I’m not saying that my Pastor is supporting Obama, but he certainly didn’t point out that Obama unequivocally supports abartion — even after birth! Instead he went on with another wishy-washy statement about “Support for Life just doesn’t mean abortion. Support for Life also means helping the poor and the immigrant.”
This kind of muddled thinking offers refuge for those Catholic who do the unthinkable — vote for Obama and his crew, the abortionists in chief.
The Bishops issue these Letters to the Faithful every year that are so convoluted that nobody reads them. This year’s has 11 parts — each 2 pages, I think. Just get to the basics, such as the letter recently issued by CatholicVote.org/compare2012. 5 points.
I'm sure he is but how would anyone know when his main objection seems to be against birth control and abortficents like a “morning after” pill?
Exactly why is Dolan against 14 year olds (or any one of any age) engaging in sex outside of marriage?
St. Paul said fornicators along with murders would not inherit God's Kingdom, period. Is that Dolan’s basis for objection to premarital sex?
“If you're a toxic a**hole who absolutely MUST find fault in any and all things Catholic, I suppose an utterly moronic question like this would make some type of sense”
I'm sorry. I seem to have brought out some ill concealed vulgarities of thought but you did say that you're a person “capable of linear thought”. Just what were you thinking? Never mind, I don't want to know!
Someone should tell him that his majestic cathedral sits in the middle of a nihilistic, pagan city that ain't going to get any better.
Huh ... seriously? Can’t you read?
Are you serious?
The article and statements were concerning morning after pills for 14yr old children. I am sure you are aware these pills are abortion pill. I don’t understand why you would support that type of program. Both Obama and Romney support abortion.
There are those amongst us who do not understand a rhetorical question. One struggles against the tide of low standards.
“Exactly why is Dolan against 14 year olds (or any one of any age) engaging in sex outside of marriage?”
Most of these young girls are from the ghetto and most would not in that shape if they could outrun their brothers.
I find it so sad that people think it is fine for Public schools to provide abortions for 14yr old children without notifying their parents. Attacking someone who speaks out against it is trying to make it a political issue. Both Obama and Romney are pro abortion. Shows the moral decline of the Country.
If by “young girls are from the ghetto” you mean blacks it was clear fifty years ago that the trend would lead to where it is today.
Young males father children they have no intention or ability to care for and the females act as though they are moral idiots as their offspring fill the prisons and graveyards.
And still the so-called shepherds cannot bring themselves to say what fornication is and why it's so wrong.
It's not their brothers the females have to outrun but the cowardice of the mush-mouthed ministers who have abdicated their responsibility to keep their jobs.
Whether there's any risk of pegnancy and disease or not, fornication is never "virtue." Chastity is the virtue: and chastity for the unmarried entails abstinence, not fornication whatever the circumstances.
Immoral, yes. I believe c-y-c may have been referring to a thread several years back, wherein a Catholic FReeper advanced the argument that 14 was the age of consent, and therefore a priest could not be tried for statutory rape or sexual abuse if the underage male was at least 14 years of age.
I'll leave it to others to decide if this person could be considered a "faithful Catholic".
Avoiding jail is a practical reason but not, NOT the chief, highest reason to not steal.
“Fornication is immoral:...” How would any Catholic know this? No fornication then no birth control or abortion or AIDS amongst the unmarried.
Is that the message? Or is just don't get caught?
Jesus gave the principle that to those given much, much would be demanded and hence could chastise Nicodemus for being a shepherd of Israel and yet not knowing what Jesus explained.
Or are we talking about a moral definition -- a discussion of different types of sins?
What is unlawful via moral law would be far more extensive thatn what is unlawful under criminal law.
Or is there some confusion of categories here?
Or are we talking about a moral definition -- a discussion of different types of sins?
What is unlawful via moral law would be far more extensive thatn what is unlawful under criminal law.
Or is there some confusion of categories here?
Immorality is “immoral” not just because of some possible bad consequences but because Our Creator says so. That sometime in the future we may reap what is sown may reinforce that fact but that is not the reason to avoid immorality.
“....the argument that 14 was the age of consent, and therefore a priest could not be tried for statutory rape or sexual abuse if the underage male was at least 14 years of age.”
Secular law might be unable to do anything but secular law is only designed to preserve the state not concern its self with morals.
I don’t support abortion. Paul Ryan does not support abortion. Romney supports abortion only to save the life of the mother. Obama supports both abortion and infanticide. Biden supports Roe v. Wade (abortion). What is your problem? Can’t you read? Or are you just a tool of the devil, constantly mis-representing my words?
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