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In Arab Spring, Obama Finds a Sharp Test (and Fails Utterly)
New York Slimes ^ | 9/24/2012 | HELENE COOPER and ROBERT F. WORTH

Posted on 09/25/2012 3:15:12 PM PDT by mojito

President Hosni Mubarak did not even wait for President Obama’s words to be translated before he shot back.

“You don’t understand this part of the world,” the Egyptian leader broke in. “You’re young.”

Mr. Obama, during a tense telephone call the evening of Feb. 1, 2011, had just told Mr. Mubarak that his speech, broadcast to hundreds of thousands of protesters in Tahrir Square in Cairo, had not gone far enough. Mr. Mubarak had to step down, the president said.

Minutes later, a grim Mr. Obama appeared before hastily summoned cameras in the Grand Foyer of the White House. The end of Mr. Mubarak’s 30-year rule, Mr. Obama said, “must begin now.” With those words, Mr. Obama upended three decades of American relations with its most stalwart ally in the Arab world, putting the weight of the United States squarely on the side of the Arab street.

It was a risky move by the American president, flying in the face of advice from elders on his staff at the State Department and at the Pentagon, who had spent decades nursing the autocratic — but staunchly pro-American — Egyptian government.

Nineteen months later, Mr. Obama was at the State Department consoling some of the very officials he had overruled. Anti-American protests broke out in Egypt and Libya. In Libya, they led to the deaths of four Americans, including the United States ambassador to Libya, J. Christopher Stevens. A new Egyptian government run by the Muslim Brotherhood was dragging its feet about condemning attacks on the American Embassy in Cairo.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
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While the Libyans were dragging the body of the ambassador around by the feet....

In this rather remarkable and somewhat honest article, the Slimes, in its inimitable way, kinda sorta gets around to saying the unsayable: that Barry is single-handedly responsible for a catastrophic foreign policy disaster in the ME because he's such a megalomaniac that he never listens to anyone and thinks everyone around the world fawns over him like the WH press corps.

Oh yeah Barry, you the Mahdi!

But since it's Barry that's responsible, the Slimes discloses the epic extent of the disaster to their looney left readership in that hushed, prevaricating, handwringing style that they always use when even they can no longer deny that their hero is a conceited narcisstic idiot.

And that's the Slimes. If you're not the Slimes, you might come to the conclusion that Barry is a malevolent sob out to promote the Islamists, undermine this country and destroy Israel. And that might be the nicest spin you can put on it.

1 posted on 09/25/2012 3:15:18 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito
But since it's Barry that's responsible, the Slimes discloses the epic extent of the disaster to their looney left readership in that hushed, prevaricating, handwringing style that they always use when even they can no longer deny that their hero is a conceited narcisstic idiot.

You're an interesting insightful person mojito...

2 posted on 09/25/2012 3:21:25 PM PDT by GOPJ (You only establish a feel for the line by having crossed it. - - Freeper One Name)
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To: mojito

“You don’t understand this part of the world,” the Egyptian leader broke in. “You’re young.”
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Ah, he dissed the boy wonder.


3 posted on 09/25/2012 3:29:53 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: mojito

4 posted on 09/25/2012 3:37:32 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: mojito
Surprised how many times the article said Zero has not formed personal relationships with world leaders which they admit has contributed to the problem.

Most honest article from the Times in years. Thanks.

5 posted on 09/25/2012 3:38:48 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Excellence

srbfl


6 posted on 09/25/2012 4:02:58 PM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: mojito

has anyone else heard that Iran is responsable for the video? all this is doing a great job of keeping both campaigns off the the econemy


7 posted on 09/25/2012 4:07:01 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: mojito

Remember a few weeks ago when the MSM was touting Obama’s foreign policy creds?


8 posted on 09/25/2012 4:29:47 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: Mikey_1962
Yes, I do but I never understood.

Only the brilliant sycophants of the WH press corp can fathom how undermining allies (Israel, UK, Poland, Czech Republic) and cozying up to enemies (Russia, Iran, Muslim Brotherhood) constitutes a mastery of foreign affairs.

Yes, I know, bin Laden is dead (and so are a bunch of SEALS whose security was compromised by WH leaks). And the drone attacks - which oh so ironically had they been carried out by the Bush WH, the the very same MSM that praises Zero would never tire of screaming about the “innocents” killed - which have gotten us to the brink of a Taliban victory in Afghanistan.

Yeah, that Barry, just look at all those foreign policy achievements. All praise to the great and wonderful Barry.

9 posted on 09/25/2012 4:56:14 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito; bronxville
One day before Obama delivered his speech in Cairo, the head of the European Muslim Brotherhood issued a press release that amazingly, "coincidentally," outlined Obama's as-yet undelivered speech quite well. Tariq Ramadan, the grandson of the founder of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, was the guy whose Bush-era visa ban had been lifted by the Obama Admin so he could, after a delay of 6 yrs or so, enter the US. Tariq's father was apparently involved in laying out the MB's plan to merge progressive politics with shariah law.

JUNE 2009 early : (EUROPEAN MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD'S TARIQ RAMADAN, A SELF_DESCRIBED "PROGRESSIVE" ISSUES A PRESS STATEMENT IN ADVANCE OF OBAMA'S CAIRO SPEECH) ------TARIQ RAMADAN, 'MUSLIMS WANT RESPECT AND HUMIILITY' (Obama read Ramadan's script), ANSAmed ^ | June 3 2009 | ANSA staff
http:/www.ansamed.info/en/news/ME01.@AM35440.html
Posted on Friday, June 05, 2009 12:55:36 AM by bronxville

10 posted on 09/25/2012 6:18:50 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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whoops, I made it sound like Tariq’s visa ban was lifted in 2009 by the admin with the aid of the ACLU, Clinton actually did it in January 2010 and Tariq made a victory lap here in April 2010.


11 posted on 09/25/2012 6:27:03 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

the American Learning Institute for Muslims and whose list of instructors includes some of the most important leaders of the U.S./global Muslim Brotherhood including Tariq Ramadan, Jamal Badawi, and Taha Al-Alwani.
more at article link
———New Obama Envoy [to Muslim World] Has History Of Engagement With U.S. Muslim Brotherhood
The Gobal Muslim Brotherhood Daily Report ^ | Feb. 14, 2010 | GlobalMB , Posted on 02/15/2010 5:22:05 AM PST by BIOCHEMKY


12 posted on 09/25/2012 6:32:13 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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Tariq Ramadan manages simultaneously to deny and affirm that he’s a stealth jihadist...

“On his first trip back, Ramadan, now a professor at Oxford University, gave a keynote address this month at a fundraising dinner for the Chicago office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. He also sat down with the Chicago Tribune.”

Q: Your critics point to your grandfather, Hassan al Banna, who founded the Muslim Brotherhood, a political Muslim group in Egypt that has been violent at times. They draw links between your own beliefs and that of the Brotherhood. Do you belong to the Muslim Brotherhood?

A: I don’t belong to the Muslim Brotherhood. (A few days ago) someone asked me to condemn my grandfather. I said, “Look. I’m not from the Muslim Brotherhood. He was living in the ’30s and the ’40s. He was against British colonization. He built schools. He was promoting a vision. There are things with which I agree, and others, that put into context, I may disagree. But I’m not condemning him. He never killed someone.”

Note that while he says that he does agree with some aspects of the Brotherhood program, he only “may” disagree with other aspects. Again, he is sidestepping the essential question: does Tariq Ramadan wish to extend the hegemony of Sharia to the West, even by non-violent means?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/04/tariq-ramadan-manages-simultaneously-to-deny-and-affirm-that-hes-a-stealth-jihad.html

Ramadan is probably one of the top guys in the Muslim Brotherhood. I’ve always thought Obama was a member. Thinking of Dinesh and his 2012 movie here when I say they bear deep grudges for British anti-Colonialism.

I wish someone would compare his speech in Cairo with what Tariq Ramadan said just prior - would do it myself time permitting. Thanks for the reminder piasa.


13 posted on 09/25/2012 8:12:20 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks mojito.
Obama, during a tense telephone call the evening of Feb. 1, 2011, had just told Mr. Mubarak that his speech, broadcast to hundreds of thousands of protesters in Tahrir Square in Cairo, had not gone far enough. Mr. Mubarak had to step down, the president said. Minutes later, a grim Mr. Obama appeared before hastily summoned cameras in the Grand Foyer of the White House. The end of Mr. Mubarak's 30-year rule, Mr. Obama said, "must begin now." With those words, Mr. Obama upended three decades of American relations with its most stalwart ally in the Arab world, putting the weight of the United States squarely on the side of the Arab street.

14 posted on 09/25/2012 8:51:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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There are at least two gay guys in Chicago that claim to have had sex with BHO.

They both claim the Michelle is a beard so he can stay in the closet.

There is one notorious upscale club in Chicago that claims BHO was a member.

The things we don't know about this guy is staggering.

15 posted on 09/26/2012 6:16:03 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: bronxville; piasa
And then there's Huma Abadin’s direct ties to the Muslim Brotherhood:

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/312211/huma-abedin-s-muslim-brotherhood-ties-andrew-c-mccarthy

Nothing odd or suspicious or treasonous here. Please move along.

16 posted on 09/26/2012 9:14:33 AM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito; piasa

I just happened to come across this article on NIAC “skirting lobbying rules” for the mullahs which coincides with out discussion:

Sept, 2009 - “Mr. Parsi has been called to the White House, lectured at the CIA and visited Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. He boasted in internal e-mails that he learned of Mr. Obama’s speech to Iranians on the occasion of the Persian New Year in March several hours before it was posted on the Internet.”
Read more: EXCLUSIVE: Iran advocacy group said to skirt lobby rules - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/13/exclusive-did-iranian-advocacy-group-violate-laws/#ixzz27ayYClVu
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter


17 posted on 09/26/2012 10:05:42 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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