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Two wolves from Washington state gray wolf pack killed for preying on cattle
nbcnews.com ^ | 9/26/12 | Miguel Llanos

Posted on 09/25/2012 10:00:06 PM PDT by dennisw

Two gray wolves in Washington state were killed from a state helicopter Tuesday afternoon after officials decided the entire pack -- believed to be at least eight wolves -- needed to be killed because of repeated attacks on cattle, officials said.

An airborne marksman with the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife killed the two wolves about seven miles from the Canadian border -- a week after marksmen and wildlife biologists spent days looking for the pack.

A major conservation group working with Washington state to manage its gray wolves agreed that the pack should be culled but also blamed a rancher in the area for not doing more to protect his cattle.

Gray wolves are listed as endangered under state law because they were nearly wiped out a century ago by settlers.

In the last decade, however, gray wolves have started to re-establish themselves in Washington due to recovery efforts in nearby states and dispersal from Canada.

At least eight packs are now established in the eastern half of Washington, which also has a conservation plan in place — one that aims to restore wolves in the wild without those same wolves preying on livestock. The state compensates ranchers who lose livestock to wolves, but that hasn't ended the tension.

"Wolves are recolonizing our state relatively quickly," Dave Ware, a Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife spokesman, told NBC News. "Managing conflicts is one of the most important objectives for recovery so that people don’t take things into their own hands."

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Idaho; US: Montana; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: graywolves; wolves

1 posted on 09/25/2012 10:00:12 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
People generally don't seem to realize just how fast the wolves are reestablishing themselves. I was surprised as heck to see this map for Idaho for last year:


2 posted on 09/25/2012 10:03:34 PM PDT by verum ago (Be a bastard, and Karma'll be a bitch.)
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To: dennisw

Notice how Washington state creates a problem by catering to the eco-wackos..... Then has to spend more taxpayers money and hire more eco-wacko state employees to manage it

The eco-libs get put on the public payroll to manage the problem they created by forcing ranchers to accept the introduction of these predators. So this wolf pack will be killed off via expensive helicopter flights. How soon before it gets replaced by a new wolf pack they bring in? Is the marksman on the state payroll or is he an expansive contractor with the liberal political connections to get the job


3 posted on 09/25/2012 10:06:33 PM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: dennisw

blamed a rancher in the area for not doing more to protect his cattle.”

I would love to hear the members of this conservation group explain just exactly how one protects cattle from wolves. Maybe the cattle need to spend more time at the gun range or perhaps the ranchers can just spray the cattle with wolf repellant.

At least we can eat beef. Maybe we should just start wearing fur coats made out of grey wolf pelts again.


4 posted on 09/25/2012 10:09:06 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: dennisw

Good. Sorry folks.... anyone that thinks reintroducing wolves to Washington is a fool. The eco-system that supported wolves is no longer in place. It has been replaced by farms and livestock. Wolves are a super predator and a very bad idea in any area with a measurable population density.


5 posted on 09/25/2012 10:09:18 PM PDT by volunbeer (Don't worry America, our kids will pay for it!)
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To: verum ago

Wow!! I did some work there in 1994(?) and they had just introduced what I thought were the first small number of wolves into the area (near Salmon, ID) - like 6 or 8 wolves. They must have introduced many more than that over the years.


6 posted on 09/25/2012 10:11:02 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: 21twelve

I was close!:

The first wolves were released at Corn Creek on the main Salmon River-

Shipment of the wolves to both the Yellowstone acclimation pens and to the Idaho wilderness was briefly delayed when the Farm Bureau won a temporary injunction from the U.S. Court of Appeals. (The Farm Bureau has probably been the longest-standing and most aggressive of the major groups opposed to wolves.).

Nevertheless, on January 14, 1995 the first four wolves were released to the wild after an unplanned and perilous truck ride down the Salmon River road to its end at Corn Creek. At Corn Creek Bar on the Salmon River at the edge of the Frank Church/River of No Return Wilderness, all but one wolf immediately leaped out of its portable kennel.


7 posted on 09/25/2012 10:13:03 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: Grams A

Cow with guns- :) pretty soon they will have to arm the wolves to make sides even then we are off to arms race


8 posted on 09/25/2012 10:14:24 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: volunbeer
"Oooohhh Mommy, look at the pretty doggies."
9 posted on 09/25/2012 10:33:12 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Grams A
I would love to hear the members of this conservation group explain just exactly how one protects cattle from wolves.

Here in Idaho the best way we've found is a suppressed AR-15.

That said, there're still a lot of ranchers having to file claims for losses in cattle and especially sheep. Hopefully the wolf hunt will help out some.

Speaking of which:

Open season, baby! Til March 31 2013. 19 taken so far (season opened August 30). Last year 255 were shot, another 124 trapped. Which is funny, because most people I meet think that there's less than 100 total in the state. I guess they're stuck in 1998 or something.

I think Idaho's got the right idea for wolves in another way: fund their management by selling wolf tags to hunters, who can also manage them in a very direct way.
10 posted on 09/25/2012 10:33:22 PM PDT by verum ago (Be a bastard, and Karma'll be a bitch.)
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To: verum ago; Nailbiter

Sounds like Idaho has their priorities straight. Made the mistake of reading some of the comments after the article. These people just drive me crazy. If they love the wolves so much they should just start an “adopt a wolf” program and take one home with them.


11 posted on 09/25/2012 10:43:10 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

Lets encourage that , wolves will eat eco nuts as easily as cows. Besides which eco nuts will not fight, cannot run as fast as cows either.

Maybe in sane world there would be a season for eco-nuts, we are way over populated


12 posted on 09/25/2012 10:49:21 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Grams A

Ok I usually do not read comments on articles, but because of your comment I did.

I change my last comment to we need open season on illogical eco nuts they are a danger to themselves and everyone in society.
Lock ‘em up or put em down for the good of society.


13 posted on 09/25/2012 10:53:11 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: dennisw
A major conservation group working with Washington state to manage its gray wolves agreed that the pack should be culled but also blamed a rancher in the area for not doing more to protect his cattle.

Gray wolves are listed as endangered under state law because they were nearly wiped out a century ago by settlers.

"Wolves are recolonizing our state relatively quickly," Dave Ware, a Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife spokesman, told NBC News. "Managing conflicts is one of the most important objectives for recovery so that people don’t take things into their own hands."

Anyone else see a discrepancy there? Seems to be a discontinuity of thought. If they're protected, what's the rancher supposed to do? Bring them in the house at night? Legally, he is severely limited in what he can do to protect his herd. (A good rifle with a decent night vision weapons sight and a backhoe come to mind...)

14 posted on 09/25/2012 10:56:29 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Grams A

I live in the area, and the tree huggers are trying to prevent the ranchers from using Fed. or state lands for open range. I heard one across the road from me the other night, getting more and more.


15 posted on 09/25/2012 10:57:48 PM PDT by gunner03
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To: dennisw

“Managing conflicts is one of the most important objectives for recovery so that people don’t take things into their own hands.”

The Agency Person is most afraid that his fellow trough feeders will not be allowed to retain their present legal monopoly on killing wolves.

Were mere citizens allowed to kill problem wolves, how could agencies grow their agency?

Note that it took a “swarm of officers” to find and kill two wolves of a small pack. The Agency Persons even had a helicopter with a gubbament certified “marksman”. However, it is only money - our money, which the trough feeders are wasting.


16 posted on 09/25/2012 11:04:38 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I think I heard on the news last night that the rancher and others do have permission to kill the wolves of this pack. But just this pack.

On a somewhat related note, I think the salmon are also on the endangered list. You know, the salmon you can order at the restaurant or pick up at the store. (!?)


17 posted on 09/25/2012 11:07:49 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: GladesGuru

You get it. This wolf reintroduction is about more state jobs for useless eater eco-libs to manage (even shoot) these wolves the eco-libs pressured Washington State to re-introduce into the eco-lib fantasy land of the forest primeval


18 posted on 09/25/2012 11:11:25 PM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: Grams A

Yeah, I didn’t bother with the comments. Didn’t feel like getting angry.

Idaho resident hunting license fee: $12.75
Idaho resident wolf tag fee: $11.50

Look on Greenies’ faces when they learn that an Idaho resident can go perforate one of their beloved wolves for only $24.25: friggin’ priceless!


19 posted on 09/25/2012 11:13:48 PM PDT by verum ago (Be a bastard, and Karma'll be a bitch.)
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To: verum ago

My brother lives in the Idaho panhandle and he tells me that one of his rancher neighbor’s son got himself a new winter sport last year which involved a snowmobile, a Glock pistol and the local wolf pack. He chases them down on the snowmobile and shoots any that don’t get to cover fast enough.


20 posted on 09/25/2012 11:38:19 PM PDT by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: volunbeer
Sorry folks.... anyone that thinks reintroducing wolves to Washington is a fool. The eco-system that supported wolves is no longer in place. It has been replaced by farms and livestock. Wolves are a super predator and a very bad idea in any area with a measurable population density.

That was a good post. When wolves kill cattle they are just doing what is instinctive.

The real issue is, Can wolves and cattle coexist in the same geographical area? The answer is they can not.

The sane policy is to have areas where the wolves are protected and at the same time it would be permissible to kill them if they are out of the protected area.

21 posted on 09/26/2012 12:03:54 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: dennisw

I’ll take the pelts off their hands brushed and tanned with the head intact they could bring a small fortune !


22 posted on 09/26/2012 12:09:47 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: dennisw

.308 or .338 Lapua....Cure for the common cold and wolves...


23 posted on 09/26/2012 1:53:17 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: dennisw

In 1996, the state legislature outlawed the use of dogs in hunting bears and cougars. As a result, small prey animals have been virtually eliminated, and led to a significant reduction in the number of deer and elk in areas occupied by cougars.

The fact that wolves are going after domesticated animals should come as no surprise.


24 posted on 09/26/2012 2:43:42 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: verum ago

I think Idaho’s got the right idea for wolves in another way: fund their management by selling wolf tags to hunters, who can also manage them in a very direct way.

They’ll have to since the animals that hunters really like to hunt will have severely falling populations.


25 posted on 09/26/2012 3:41:33 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: dennisw

Wolf packs will attack and eat cattle? No way!
Who knew? Who could have imagined such a thing?


26 posted on 09/26/2012 4:27:59 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: freedomfiter2

Wolves were all be eliminated before and it can/might happen again. It may take some time of “shoot-shovel-shutup” control including other means as well.

Wolves were introduced here in central Wisconsin as well but thus far, no “control” has been experienced thus far. A hunting season has been established and results are minimal at best with established kill numbers very small.
More “SSS” type control will go on for some time to come as the deer herds a being reduced significantly and hunters certainly don’t like that happening.


27 posted on 09/26/2012 4:30:14 AM PDT by Progov
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To: dennisw
"You're breeding velociraptors!?"

Dr. Ian Malcolm: John, the kind of control you're attempting simply is... it's not possible. If there is one thing the history of evolution has taught us it's that life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories and crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously, but, uh... well, there it is...I'm, I'm simply saying that life, uh... finds a way. - "Jurassic Park"
28 posted on 09/26/2012 4:30:39 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Nailbiter

I think wolf packs should be reintroduced to their native habitats in Seattle, San Francisco, Manhattan etc.


29 posted on 09/26/2012 4:30:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: dennisw

How it could ever be a news? In Eastern Europe people are paid for killing wolves.


30 posted on 09/26/2012 4:34:20 AM PDT by cunning_fish (.)
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To: Travis McGee

It must be noted that the Wolf Pack savaged the citadel last Saturday 51-14


31 posted on 09/26/2012 4:48:34 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: dennisw

In the real world - not the one the left lives in - wolves are “shoot on sight”. Period. No exceptions.


32 posted on 09/26/2012 5:20:50 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: bert

Ouch!


33 posted on 09/26/2012 6:05:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Noumenon

Ping.


34 posted on 09/26/2012 7:01:25 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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