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Romney, In Shift, Says Obama Has Not Raised Taxes [Romney Acting Like McCain?]
LA Times ^ | September 25, 2012 | Seema Mehta

Posted on 09/25/2012 10:40:00 PM PDT by Steelfish

Romney, In Shift, Says Obama Has Not Raised Taxes

By Seema Mehta

September 25 VANDALIA, Ohio — Mitt Romney said Tuesday that President Obama did not raise taxes during his first term, contradicting a constant attack he has leveled on Obama — that his healthcare plan was a tax increase.

“I admit this, he has one thing he did not do in his first four years — he’s said he’s going to do in the next four years — which is to raise taxes. And is there anyone who thinks raising taxes will help grow the economy? No!” Romney told thousands gathered at a chilly tarmac rally. “His plan is to continue what he’s done before. The status quo has not worked. We cannot afford four more years of Barack Obama. We’re not going to have four more years of Barack Obama.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obamacare; taxes
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1 posted on 09/25/2012 10:40:08 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

WTF? So now he says obama has not raised taxes, and we don’t need for more years.........so the masses take that as: I’ll raise taxes.
WTH? Is wrong with Romney?


2 posted on 09/25/2012 10:43:55 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Steelfish; All
Romney was likely talking about the income tax rates anyway.

Since the ObamaCare taxes haven't hit yet, and hit in the 2nd term if Obama gets one, isn't it arguable the taxes haven't been raised in the first four years?

Romney doesn't have to have changed positions or even be inconsistent to say both things.

3 posted on 09/25/2012 10:44:24 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Osama's dead... and so is our ambassador - Coulter.)
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To: svcw

My God! Did you read the statement quoted? Not even the Obama campaign can parse that as Romney pledging to raise taxes!


4 posted on 09/25/2012 10:46:56 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Osama's dead... and so is our ambassador - Coulter.)
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To: newzjunkey

But we see how the MSM spins this.


5 posted on 09/25/2012 10:47:29 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: newzjunkey

But we see how the MSM spins this.


6 posted on 09/25/2012 10:47:39 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: svcw

He is technically correct...the taxes won’t be in affect until January, ‘13.


7 posted on 09/25/2012 10:51:41 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight
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To: Steelfish

No people, the polls are NOT skewed ... we just have a blithering idiot for a nominee.


8 posted on 09/25/2012 10:52:33 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Steelfish

I don’t trust the slimes to report anything accurately.


9 posted on 09/25/2012 10:55:08 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: RIghtwardHo

I believe your are 100% correct made worse by a pathetic campaign strategy.


10 posted on 09/25/2012 10:55:20 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

I hope this is not true


11 posted on 09/25/2012 10:56:45 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Steelfish

I give up. Which way to the nearest re-education camp?


12 posted on 09/25/2012 10:57:29 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (Principles aren't worth a bucket of warm spit. I'm voting Romney. God help me.)
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To: newzjunkey

We’re less than a hundred days from massive scheduled tax hikes.


13 posted on 09/25/2012 10:58:43 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: newzjunkey

It is not rational.
I said how the masses will receive it.
If Romney is saying obama did not raise taxes, then it will appear that Romney is saying he is going to. obama has said over and over that Romney doesn’t care about the middle class.
There is nothing rational about the people who are supporting obama.


14 posted on 09/25/2012 11:01:10 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Steelfish

Vacant space for rent or sale

Willard isnt using it...


15 posted on 09/25/2012 11:04:54 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Steelfish

Does he even really want to win? I’m getting to where I doubt it.


16 posted on 09/25/2012 11:06:54 PM PDT by Bullish (Barry's not fit to shine the shoes of a REAL President.)
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To: Bullish

epic fail?


17 posted on 09/25/2012 11:12:33 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Steelfish

Obama was barely in office 2 weeks before he signed the SCHIP bill into law and raised taxes on tobacco.


18 posted on 09/25/2012 11:12:49 PM PDT by Washi
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To: Steelfish

Romney needs to stop being such a PUSSY!


19 posted on 09/25/2012 11:15:16 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Steelfish
“I admit this, he has one thing he did not do in his first four years — he’s said he’s going to do in the next four years — which is to raise taxes.

Why is everyone having a fit, Obama is going to raise taxes, Romney won't.

20 posted on 09/25/2012 11:16:39 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: RIghtwardHo; Steelfish; GeronL
Maybe the idiots are those that take the LA Times at face value.

The governor has repeatedly pointed out that President Obama has raised taxes, in addition to increasing federal spending," said advisor Kevin Madden. "The governor was specifically referring to President Obama's promise to raise income taxes in a second term, which would also impact small businesses."

21 posted on 09/25/2012 11:22:33 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: Steelfish

22 posted on 09/25/2012 11:22:47 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (Principles aren't worth a bucket of warm spit. I'm voting Romney. God help me.)
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To: Steelfish

“...contradicting a constant attack he has leveled on Obama — that his healthcare plan was a tax increase.”

There’s no contradiction - Obamacare introduces new taxes and increases others, but not until 2013, which was by design. The dems wanted to postpone the pain until after the election.

So Romney is correct but the media will spin it as usual to help the messiah.


23 posted on 09/25/2012 11:24:05 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: RIghtwardHo; Steelfish; GeronL; LaybackLenny

“No people, the polls are NOT skewed ... we just have a blithering idiot for a nominee.”

Since you’re so smart, maybe you can fill us in on which taxes have gone up.

Romney is 100% right - Obamacare contains a lot of taxes, but they won’t go into effect until 2013 - by design - so the pain won’t come until after the election.

Yes Obama has wanted to raise taxes all along, but the republicans in congress have done him a favor by stopping him. So now he can claims that he hasn’t raised taxes.


24 posted on 09/25/2012 11:31:22 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: svcw
If Romney is saying obama did not raise taxes, then it will appear that Romney is saying he is going to.

Had you bothered to read what Mittens said:

"And is there anyone who thinks raising taxes will help grow the economy? No!” Romney told thousands gathered at a chilly tarmac rally."

For the sake of argument -- and thereby leaving aside the emphatic "NO!" -- how could one possibly read into that statement that Romney is going to raise taxes?

25 posted on 09/25/2012 11:36:04 PM PDT by kevao (Is your ocean any lower than it was four years ago?)
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To: 9YearLurker
We’re less than a hundred days from massive scheduled tax hikes.

Those aren't Obama tax increases; they're the expiration of the Bush tax cuts. For the life of me, I don't remember why Bush, with a GOP controlled House AND Senate, put expiration dates on those tax cuts. There must have been a reason, but I'm getting old and memory fades....

However, Obama is *not* increasing income taxes next year. Those are GWB expirations. But when the ObamaCare tax increases take effect in 2014, the Muslim-in-Chief will have full ownership of those.

26 posted on 09/25/2012 11:46:10 PM PDT by kevao (Is your ocean any lower than it was four years ago?)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Obama is going to raise taxes, Romney won't.


27 posted on 09/25/2012 11:47:23 PM PDT by itsahoot (I'll write in Palin in 2012. That is 1 vote for Palin, 0 votes for Romney and Zer0 votes for Obama.)
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To: svcw

“I admit this, he has one thing he did not do in his first four years — he’s said he’s going to do in the next four years — which is to raise taxes. And is there anyone who thinks raising taxes will help grow the economy? No!”

Romney said Obama is going to raise taxes in his next four years. Romeny also said that is not the way to grow the economy. Re read the quote again.


28 posted on 09/26/2012 12:02:26 AM PDT by funfan
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To: Bullish
Does [Romney] even really want to win? I’m getting to where I doubt it.

I used to think that doubting Romney's desire to win was crazy talk, woo-woo conspiracy theory stuff. But no more. If you assume that he wants to win, then the way he speaks and runs his campaign makes no sense. I don't pretend to have any idea why someone would take the trouble to get nominated for president if he didn't want to make it to the White House, though. Anything I could suggest would be rank speculation.
29 posted on 09/26/2012 12:06:14 AM PDT by eater-of-toast ("It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones." --Calvin Coolidge)
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To: kevao

If memory serves, it’s because the Bush tax cuts were passed under budget reconciliation rules, which require time limits. The reason for using reconciliation was that Republicans had nowhere near 60 votes, and reconciliation requires only a simple majority.v


30 posted on 09/26/2012 12:11:25 AM PDT by eater-of-toast ("It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones." --Calvin Coolidge)
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To: eater-of-toast

The GOP statist elites decided it was Romney’s turn just like they decided it was Bob dole’s in ‘96 and McCain’s ‘08.

He doesn’t act like he wants to fight for the job, just like McCain AND Dole didn’t fight hard either. And Lord, do we need a fighter right now.


31 posted on 09/26/2012 12:14:37 AM PDT by Bullish (Barry's not fit to shine the shoes of a REAL President.)
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To: Steelfish

MSM spins it, as usual.


32 posted on 09/26/2012 12:24:20 AM PDT by granada
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To: newzjunkey

No, I quit reading at LA Times.


33 posted on 09/26/2012 12:48:55 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Steelfish

First of all, he’s talking about raising income taxes. Now, because some schmo at the LA Times says, oh gotcha, you’ve changed your tune about raising taxes, people on this thread run for the fields. People are not as ignorant as you think that are and plainly people know Obama didn’t raise income taxes - they see their checks. What he’s telling you, me and the crowd, is the one EVIL thing he didn’t do in his first four years - but plans to do if he gets another term - is to raise income taxes.

Either the people on this thread are incredibly young and have never seen the media sycophants spin every statement a Republican utters, or you’re a bunch of trolls. Either way, calm down. The adults are taking over again. The media is losing it’s clout to the point of being a close second to lawyers. Worry about getting your Republican and conservative friends to the polls. Throw a voting happy hour, do something other than stare at the screen for every possible twist the media will try to perform.


34 posted on 09/26/2012 1:19:52 AM PDT by dannyboy72a (the circuit is closing)
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To: itsahoot

What is so funny?


35 posted on 09/26/2012 1:31:33 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Steelfish

You stoopit FK!

You make the case for what the guy hasn’t dunn, which is suppose to be good, and then say “No Mas???!!!

Idiot...


36 posted on 09/26/2012 1:37:39 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: newzjunkey

If Romney meant Income Tax he would have said Income Tax. If he refers to ObamaCare as a tax then he would have to admit he raised taxes in Ma. with his RomneyCare.


37 posted on 09/26/2012 1:48:14 AM PDT by brightright
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To: fortheDeclaration

Why should Romney not raise taxes?

He should raise taxes and start raising them immediately upon entering office on the 47% that pay NO taxes.

I pay my “fair share” and these free loaders and moochers need to start paying theirs


38 posted on 09/26/2012 2:06:36 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Steelfish

What about the White Folk Tax aka tax on indoor tanning?


39 posted on 09/26/2012 2:46:46 AM PDT by Happy Rain
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To: Steelfish

He was referring to Federal Taxes which everyone knows.


40 posted on 09/26/2012 3:12:00 AM PDT by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: kevao

There must have been a reason,


There was. The republicans went along to get along with the democrats on that one. It’s the “whipped dog” disease that affects all republicans once they reach DC.


41 posted on 09/26/2012 3:34:16 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: kevao

“Those aren’t Obama tax increases; they’re the expiration of the Bush tax cuts”

What are you, a politician? Expiration of tax cuts are a tax hike. If Obama lets that happen or most likely tries with all his mihht to make it happen he raised taxes.


42 posted on 09/26/2012 3:52:26 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: newzjunkey

Romney was likely talking about the income tax rates anyway.
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Yup. Mountains, Molehills, Here we go again.


43 posted on 09/26/2012 5:51:01 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: kevao; funfan

Once again, there is nothing rational about obama supporters.
I will give you an example, I talked to a guy who believes obama saved his daughter’s life (2011). He firmly believes that his daughter would be dead if the obamacare had not passed.
I tried to explain to him that the bill hadn’t taken effect, he said I was lying and would have been happy to see his daughter die. The girl was 22 at the time, not in college, and she was still on his policy.
It did not matter what I said or anyone else said, he believed obama saved her.
His statement was not rational.
obama supporters are not rational beings.


44 posted on 09/26/2012 6:23:01 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Steelfish
I think he was specifically referring to the repeal of the “Bush tax cuts.”
45 posted on 09/26/2012 7:14:47 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: Steelfish

With the complicity of the RAT controlled senate, he is allowing the “Bush” tax cuts to expire. That is a massive tax increase on everyone who pays taxes.

C’mon, Governor Romney, tell it like it is!


46 posted on 09/26/2012 7:16:12 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Bullish
...Lord, do we need a fighter right now.

Sad to say, "they" found a way to encourage her to stay on the sidelines.

47 posted on 09/26/2012 7:19:37 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Happy Rain
What about the White Folk Tax aka tax on indoor tanning?

Exactly...And I know that I had an income tax increase since Obama has been sleeping in the White House...

What mystifies me is that Romney couldn't beat McCain who couldn't beat Obama...Yet many FReepers have some weird notion that Romney somehow can beat Obama...

It's a race to the bottom and we can't possibly lose...

48 posted on 09/26/2012 7:30:47 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Steelfish

Is Romney going to suspend his campaign next?


49 posted on 09/26/2012 8:27:37 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: eartick

That would mean going to either a flat tax or consumer tax, which I don’t see happening.


50 posted on 09/26/2012 10:32:23 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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