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Polls Show Obama Is Widening His Lead in Ohio and Florida [Operation Demoralize by CBS/NY Times]
New York Times ^ | September 26, 2012 | JIM RUTENBERG and JEFF ZELENY

Posted on 09/26/2012 1:53:20 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

For weeks, Republicans in Ohio have been watching with worry that the state's vital 18 electoral votes were trending away from Mitt Romney. The anxiety has been similar in Florida, where Republicans are concerned that President Obama is gaining the upper hand in the fight for the state's 29 electoral votes.

Those fears are affirmed in the findings of the latest Quinnipiac University/New York Times/CBS News polls of likely voters in both states, which show that Mr. Obama has widened his lead over Mr. Romney and is outperforming him on nearly every major campaign issue, even though about half said they were disappointed in Mr. Obama's presidency.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; liars; nyslimes; slimes
Couldn't find a breakdown for Ohio, but the Florida sample was...get this....36% Demonrat, 27% Republican, 33% Independent.

The laughable "journalism" also claims to find Sharon Whalen. Sharon says she voted for McCain, but now supports Obamugabe. Sure.

1 posted on 09/26/2012 1:53:35 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Correction: that breakdown above is only for those who say they will “definitely” vote.


2 posted on 09/26/2012 1:56:15 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Zero will not win Florida. Period.


3 posted on 09/26/2012 1:57:13 AM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: SoFloFreeper

Heh... These polls are more likely to make Ubama voters complacent than they are to discourage the “Get the African communist out of our White House” crowd. Talk about a scheme destined to backfire. Go for it, Democrat newsrooms. Go for it.


4 posted on 09/26/2012 2:01:05 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Even if it seems like 0bama leads by 30%, people on our side still have to get out and vote, even in permanently conquered California, New York and the NE. If our fate has to be the reelection of 0bama, at least make a strong statement he doesn`t have mandate-level support.


5 posted on 09/26/2012 2:27:49 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Record high turnout is our hope for sending 0bama home. Pray hard!!!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

All this deceptive pro-Obama maneuvering is doing is to further steel my seething anger at him.

If need be, I will crawl over broken glass and New Black Panther thugs to go vote against this tyrant.

My hope and prayer is that I am but one of a national army who will do the same just like we did in 1980 when we threw Carter out on his butt (coincidentally, with the same types of misleading polls then).


6 posted on 09/26/2012 2:34:54 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Lancey Howard

I actually like these polls. Our side has tremendous resolve and will turn out regardless, whereas the stinking lazy moocher class will believe this crap and stay home.


7 posted on 09/26/2012 2:40:03 AM PDT by MrDem (Founder: Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: Gaffer
When they said Obama Out raised Romney I sent Romney more money. When they say Romney is uncaring I send letters to the editor documenting Romney's compassion. When they say Obama leads in the polls I vow to vote. If your in a fight you don't give up until the fights over. I really care less about polls. It does seem thought that Pennsylvania may be coming into play according to Rove, Obama should have that state locked..
8 posted on 09/26/2012 2:43:49 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: SoFloFreeper
The last Sept 23 poll in Florida actually asked these questions as part of the poll! No comparable questions on Obama quotes on Israel or anything else.

Mitt Romney recently said, “There are 47
percent of the people who will vote for the
president no matter what. All right? There are
47 percent who are with him, who are
dependent upon government, who believe that
they are victims, who believe the government
has a responsibility to care for them, who
believe that they are entitled to health care, to
food, to housing, to you-name-it, that that's an
entitlement. And the government should give it
to them. And they will vote for this president no
matter what.... These are people who pay no
income tax." Do you think Romney’s comments
were appropriate or inappropriate?
Appropriate .....................................................
Inappropriate...................................................
Not sure ..........................................................
Q9
Do these comments make you more or less
likely to vote for Mitt Romney, or do they not
make a difference?
More likely.......................................................
Less likely .......................................................
No difference ..................................................
Not sure ..........................................................
Q10
Do you think Mitt Romney should release his
tax returns for the last 12 years, or not?
He should........................................................
He should not..................................................
Not sure ..........................................................

9 posted on 09/26/2012 2:50:35 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000

Above post refers to the PPP poll on Sept 23


10 posted on 09/26/2012 2:51:42 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000

Sorry - rushing to go out.. My confusion between PPP and Quinnipac! Just ignore me (this time!).


11 posted on 09/26/2012 2:54:32 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: SoFloFreeper
Why shouldn't obama’s “lead” widen?

Things here and abroad are getting better by the day!

Anyone getting next year's health insurance premium notices nowadays is sure to switch their vote to obama!

And it is so exhilarating to watch the news from the UN and middle east and recognize how far the USA has advanced in being respected by the rest of the world!

And then of course, there are those who can't wait for that oracle of public virtue, Madonna, to strip in public if obama wins- that's worth 10% of the vote right there.

(sarc)

12 posted on 09/26/2012 3:25:12 AM PDT by silverleaf
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To: SoFloFreeper
There must have been some really horrible local news in Florida and Ohio the rest of us didn't see. So far, the worse things have become the more the voters want Obama.

Also, there must have been another segment of the population that decided they can't stand Obama by some overwhelming percentage. The polls have suggested all year that Obama loses a bunch in every demographic but makes it up in volume.

13 posted on 09/26/2012 3:52:16 AM PDT by stevem
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To: silverleaf

Let me ask, where can I submit my unbiased “poll”? Having talked with 6 died in the wool conservatives I have 100% for Romney and 0% for Obummer. That out to show them!!


14 posted on 09/26/2012 3:52:44 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: SoFloFreeper

I guess that’s why, on average, the Dems ar7% BEHIND 2008 so far in absentees which = Romney OH win.


15 posted on 09/26/2012 3:58:11 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: SoFloFreeper

This only cements the fact that the Conservative and Republican voters will show up at the polls. NOTHING will change my mind and we should all take someone with us to the polls. Don’t forget to ask the little old lady that lives near you if she needs a ride!
I also think that the targeted regional ads that Romney’s campaign will release will help. The only thing that has been drummed in the media is the “47%% comment. I had a coworker spout that one off at me yesterday at a sales meeting where the owner of our company, (dyed in the wool conservative) was at. It empowered him to mock us. (If it was my company, that would have been grounds for firing his ass) However, our salesmanager shot back at him that he hasn’t seen a raise in 5 years, and if Obama comes in he can kiss ever seeing a raise!


16 posted on 09/26/2012 4:08:03 AM PDT by marygam (#Hurry November 2012, we might not make it#)
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

I hope you are right. It seems that we are all getting very familiar with the “Democrats oversampled” line of reasoning. But here is what worries me: all of the polls are moving slowly in obama’s favor. Sort of like they did in 08. Yes, back then the D’s were oversampled also, perhaps not as radically, but on election day, McCain did better than the polls said he would (many of them...).

The sense I get right now is that Romney is narrowly losing, but that he “is losing” ie present tense. I get the sense that something is not right and that if the trajectory of today continues, obama will be re-elected.

Of course, if Romney wins Florida, that will make things much harder....I hope and pray that you are correct on Florida.


17 posted on 09/26/2012 4:13:15 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: SoFloFreeper
“.. the Florida sample was...get this....36% Democrat, 27% Republican, 33% Independent.”

This means they used a 2.7 point over poll of Democrats a 10.6 point under poll of Republicans and a 3 point over poll of Independents. All of this equals a 10.3 skew toward Obama and another lie.

18 posted on 09/26/2012 4:19:26 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

No need for the welfare class to get up and vote on election day then. But the Makers instead of the Takers will crawl over broken glass to get to the ballot boxes.


19 posted on 09/26/2012 4:22:07 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: jmaroneps37

I would like to know if any Freepers are lying to pollsters?


20 posted on 09/26/2012 4:27:12 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

I agree....

Even though my little slice of suburbia is pretty conservative I saw a LOT more support for the Empty Chair last time. Now all the passion is for Romney or probably more properly against Zero.

FL is going GOP this time.


21 posted on 09/26/2012 4:29:02 AM PDT by GatorGirl (DNC 2012. What a freak show!!!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

More propaganda from the Obama butt-kiss CBS and NY Times.


22 posted on 09/26/2012 4:34:18 AM PDT by VRWCRick
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To: SoFloFreeper

CBS/NY Slimes in cahoots to depress the pubbie vote....well maybe just maybe it will backfire and depress the RAT vote. After all Bam is supported by the freeloaders who sit around on the couch all day, if they feel Bam has it in the bag maybe they’ll stay home. Romney, who is a lousy candidate should be able to take Bam to the cleaners in the debates, if he doesn’t....Zimbabwe here we come!


23 posted on 09/26/2012 4:36:17 AM PDT by kenmcg (t)
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To: SoFloFreeper

With something like 67% thinking the country is going in the wrong direction, and approximately the same % against Obamacare, I am not convinced that these poll numbers can even be possible. Throw in the state of the economy and the wishy-washy foreign policy, Romney should be able to sail into the White House.

Too many younger Americans know more about American Idol than the American Constitution. It’s a cultural problem....and the weasels who maintain power with the help of useful idiots.


24 posted on 09/26/2012 4:45:18 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: kenmcg

Now this poll is comical. November cant come soon enough.


25 posted on 09/26/2012 5:12:19 AM PDT by Ravi
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To: SoFloFreeper

These skewed polls may be designed to help Obama keep raising funds. Nothing more. Nothing less.


26 posted on 09/26/2012 5:23:27 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: SoFloFreeper

This party ID breakdown for Florida is beyond laughable...


27 posted on 09/26/2012 5:31:31 AM PDT by Conservative12345
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To: marygam

“However, our salesmanager shot back at him that he hasn’t seen a raise in 5 years, and if Obama comes in he can kiss ever seeing a raise”

I have told all of my employees “ I can’t tell you how to vote and would never do that but I want all of you to understand that if Obama is reelected I may close all of my offices” Silence.


28 posted on 09/26/2012 5:38:45 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: Gaffer
All this deceptive pro-Obama maneuvering is doing is to further steel my seething anger at him. If need be, I will crawl over broken glass and New Black Panther thugs to go vote against this tyrant.

What you said!

Furthermore, I don't know what can be done, but when all this is over there needs to be a way to punish the blatant Goebbels propaganda media machine in this country. It is just beyond the pale this year.

29 posted on 09/26/2012 5:44:21 AM PDT by Marathoner (If the bastard were to win reelection, let America burn. IDGAF anymore.)
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To: WashingtonSource

These skewed polls may be designed to help Obama keep raising funds. Nothing more. Nothing less.
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You got it. It’s really all about depressing Romney contributions and doing the opposite for Obama. It is not going to affect the turnout of either side.


30 posted on 09/26/2012 5:47:53 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: InterceptPoint

If Romney wins, immediately after the swearing in, the GOP should take out ads explaining why he won when most polls show him losing. Explain the oversampling that skews the poll toward Obama and plant the seed of bias when explaining such error is not common practice amongst experience polling methods unless it was deliberate. Reason for ads is to discredit the MSM. If they are willing to lie during an election imagine what they will do during Romney’s term.


31 posted on 09/26/2012 5:56:52 AM PDT by Fee
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To: Marathoner
About a decade ago, the MSM gave up even the pretense of impartiality. The Big Three networks, CNN, the New York Times, Washington Post, and the news magazines have been liberal since the 1960s and even earlier, but they at least played the game of being impartial news reporters. Walter Cronkite was particularly good at this. The MSM are as biased as Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, et. al., who will readily admit their bias.
32 posted on 09/26/2012 5:59:13 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: SoFloFreeper

Note how the narrative has quietly shifted from “Obama pulling away in the national vote” to “Obama is winning the battlegrounds, and electoral votes are all that matter.”

Obama will not lose the PV and win the EV.


33 posted on 09/26/2012 5:59:16 AM PDT by Cruising For Freedom (Don't be the proof that MSM PsyOps works.)
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To: Gadsden1st

I voted in MN, but no one cares about what happens in MN because I live in the land of the lost. I don’t get a real chance to vote in my primaries and I don’t have my conservative vote count in a general election, because the EV all go to the Democrat. No one ever calls me to ask my opinion, and there are few media ads compared to other years.

It’s fund to pretend that it matters once in a while though.


34 posted on 09/26/2012 6:32:02 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Cruising For Freedom

? Say again? I don’t think I understand what you mean.


35 posted on 09/26/2012 7:42:31 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’m saying the MSM has shifted away from trumpeting Obama’s lead nationally to trumpeting his lead in battlegrounds and emphasizing that it is the electoral vote that counts, not popular.

Obama will not lose the nationwide popular vote and still win the electoral vote.


36 posted on 09/26/2012 8:32:49 AM PDT by Cruising For Freedom (Don't be the proof that MSM PsyOps works.)
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To: Cruising For Freedom

I see. Thanks. :)


37 posted on 09/26/2012 9:27:10 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: crosslink

It sure puts things in prespective doesn’t it? I am still amazed that their are those that in most situations are normal and stable, but they think this guy is doing, “the best he can”. It baffles the crap out of me!


38 posted on 09/26/2012 6:28:11 PM PDT by marygam (#Hurry November 2012, we might not make it#)
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