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Wisconsin: 3 relatives suspected of cashing dead mother's Social Security checks for 30 years
ap ^ | 9-24-12 | Dinesh Ramde

Posted on 09/26/2012 5:04:02 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

Three Portage County residents are accused of cashing Social Security checks of a relative who has been missing for 30 years and is presumed dead, and authorities are investigating to see whether her remains are buried on her wooded property.

If Marie Jost is still alive she'd be 100 years old. But authorities now suspect she died in about 1982, and they're accusing her son, daughter and son-in-law of continuing to cash her government checks in her absence.

Investigators believe Jost might be buried on her Amherst property. Sheriff's Capt. Dale O'Kray said Tuesday that cadaver dogs have hit upon the scent of human remains, and authorities are using heavy machinery to explore the property and dig for evidence.

"There's no indication she's been seen in the last 25 years and we have to have a starting point for where she might be," O'Kray said.

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: checks; dead; fraud; sosh
time to start using some of that ammo.
1 posted on 09/26/2012 5:04:13 AM PDT by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

Charge them with murder.


2 posted on 09/26/2012 5:07:33 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: TurboZamboni

Three fewer Osama Obama voters in November.


3 posted on 09/26/2012 5:15:54 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive!)
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To: TurboZamboni
But did they vote Democrat and has she continued to vote Democrat since 1982? Let's focus on the important facts...
4 posted on 09/26/2012 5:22:42 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Gay State Conservative
Three fewer Osama Obama voters in November.

I'm thinkin' four.

5 posted on 09/26/2012 5:27:14 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: TurboZamboni

Words fail me; I just can’t understand this kind of behavior from a son and daughter, for a SSI check, or anything.

Well, maybe for a few pairs of new Nike ‘Air Jordans’... JUST KIDDING! (Sorry; me bad)

Use .45cal ACP 230gr HP Hydra-Shok...


6 posted on 09/26/2012 5:32:43 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office!)
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To: TurboZamboni
But authorities now suspect she died in about 1982, and they're accusing her son, daughter and son-in-law of continuing to cash her government checks in her absence.

Obviously we just aren't paying in enough to the government to allow them to monitor this situation enough to catch these people.

We just need to pay more to save more. /s

7 posted on 09/26/2012 5:32:52 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Truth29
"But did they vote Democrat and has she
continued to vote Democrat since 1982? Let's focus on the important facts..."
true.. that i$ a fact, $uch out$tandy loyalty mu$t be rewarded grand..ly.
the dead never $witch political affiliation...even her dependant worm$ vote that way.

8 posted on 09/26/2012 5:36:18 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
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To: EGPWS

Maybe this will be the lasest Sosh Security scam to get the unemployed off the UI rolls...


9 posted on 09/26/2012 5:37:27 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: EGPWS

Maybe this will be the latest Sosh Security scam to get the unemployed off the UI rolls...


10 posted on 09/26/2012 5:37:37 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni

Makes you wonder about the way the SS Administration audits recipients.


11 posted on 09/26/2012 5:38:44 AM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: carriage_hill

Japan is discovering this a lot recently. They go in to give some award to the 110 year old person in the town, only to find out the 80 year old “child” has been cashing the pension check for ages.
http://www.english.rfi.fr/asia-pacific/20100828-nearly-300-japanese-pensioners-may-be-dead


12 posted on 09/26/2012 5:39:14 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: TurboZamboni
I would not be surprised to find that a significant percentage of SS recipients are dead-but-unreported.

It's particularly easy with elderly immigrants: they just retire back to the old country (where a dollar buys more). The kids here forward the money, and when she dies nobody in the old country notifies the US consulate of the fact.

13 posted on 09/26/2012 5:42:40 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: carriage_hill
Words fail me; I just can’t understand this kind of behavior from a son and daughter, for a SSI check, or anything.

Let's say the old lady died at home of natural causes. They can either report the death and the SS checks stop, or they bury her privately and the SS checks continue. It's not necessarily the case that they murdered her.

14 posted on 09/26/2012 5:47:03 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: TurboZamboni

This is all a big mistake. She’s still alive. Just check the voter rolls. Marie Jost has voted in every election right up to the 2008 election, where she voted for Obama.


15 posted on 09/26/2012 5:50:49 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: TurboZamboni

The mug shots are hysterical


16 posted on 09/26/2012 5:52:08 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Socialist security...the greatest fraud ever FORCED on “free” people. Built on the backs of dead Americans.

In this case...fraud on the back of dead mom.

FRAUD on FRAUD! Poster children for socialism. Who pays?


17 posted on 09/26/2012 5:54:21 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: EGPWS
"Obviously we just aren't paying in enough to the government socialists to allow them to monitor this situation enough to catch these people."

Nicely done, EGPWS. Pay more for better security of socialists security. Feed the leviathan.

18 posted on 09/26/2012 6:01:55 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: All

Socialiam Is Legal Plunder - Bastiat

Here is just some of their work...

http://www.usdebtclock.org/


19 posted on 09/26/2012 6:04:52 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Gay State Conservative
Three fewer Osama Obama voters in November.

Make that four. You can't forget the dead mom's vote.
20 posted on 09/26/2012 6:09:56 AM PDT by adorno
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To: tbw2
"In another case, the remains of a Tokyo woman believed
to be 104 were found stuffed into her son's backpack,
where they had been for more than a decade."
????souvenirs????
*Elvis's voice/*
"momma.. momma.. i never leave yah."
*/Elvis's voice*

21 posted on 09/26/2012 6:10:16 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
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To: PapaBear3625
Let's say the old lady died at home of natural causes. They can either report the death and the SS checks stop, or they bury her privately and the SS checks continue.

The last Medicare claim for the woman was in 1980, after a stroke. The son and daughter may not have taken proper care of her at home, or she may have passed away from complications.

The judge has ordered a competency hearing for the son. His living conditions were horrid. I have to wonder if he had been "living in mom's basement" all his life, and his mother's SS check was his only income.

22 posted on 09/26/2012 6:11:51 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: TurboZamboni
Wisconsin: 3 relatives suspected of cashing dead mother's Social Security checks for 30 years ....authorities now suspect she died in about 1982.....There's no indication she's been seen in the last 25 years.....

Sooooo, there is apparently a five year timeperiod that indicated the poor woman was seen dead?

23 posted on 09/26/2012 6:15:35 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Vote for Paul Ryan 2012...... oh, and that other guy running on his ticket that's not Obama.)
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To: TurboZamboni

1500 Weekends at Bernies?


24 posted on 09/26/2012 6:19:36 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TurboZamboni

I’m not so sure the “scent of human remains” would still be detectable after 30 years.


25 posted on 09/26/2012 6:23:19 AM PDT by zeebee
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To: zeebee
"I’m not so sure the “scent of human remains” would still be detectable after 30 years."

You'd be surprised.

26 posted on 09/26/2012 6:27:58 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: wiggen
Where did you see the "hysterical" mug shots? They're not at the link. Thanks.

Leni

27 posted on 09/26/2012 6:41:35 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: TurboZamboni

There’s an old story if a Chinese annuitant whose thumbprint was accepted as s check endorsement. After working in a US Chinese restaurant he retired to Taiwan and began accepting his annuity. Each month his check was endorsed with a thumb print and cashed. Eventually the company realized he was over 110 years old and they made inquiries.

Turns out he died in his eighties and was buried but his thumb went into a jar of alcohol. It reappeared each month to endorse his check. It was his plan to care for his family.


28 posted on 09/26/2012 6:44:04 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey Low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: bjc

Makes you wonder about the way the SS Administration audits recipients.

&&&
I know of 2 similar situations just in my own personal experience, so I believe it is extremely widespread. Hope I am wrong, but I doubt it.


29 posted on 09/26/2012 6:48:08 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: adorno

The real question is ?

DID SHE HAVE PACKERS SEASON TICKETS ?


30 posted on 09/26/2012 6:55:04 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: TurboZamboni

How many people live to 100 years old?? If they had quit when she would had been 90 they might have got away with their fraud.


31 posted on 09/26/2012 6:55:08 AM PDT by OldEagle
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To: Gay State Conservative

“Three fewer Osama Obama voters in November.”

Perhaps four.


32 posted on 09/26/2012 6:55:32 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: TurboZamboni

I think they are included in the 47 million on the take.


33 posted on 09/26/2012 7:26:05 AM PDT by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: wiggen

34 posted on 09/26/2012 7:30:31 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

YIPES!! Glad I didn’t have liquid in my mouth.


35 posted on 09/26/2012 7:36:30 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 ("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
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To: Bigg Red

Amen you would think there w/b a protocol. That’s not lax administration that’s no administration.


36 posted on 09/26/2012 7:41:21 AM PDT by wordsofearnest (Proper aim of giving is to put the recipient in a state where he no longer needs it. C.S. Lewis)
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To: bjc

Makes you wonder about the way the SS Administration audits recipients.”

Makes me more sure that ever that they don’t ever do an administrative audit. They need to scrap the current data base and make everyone sign up again in person with proof of identity and citizenship. Also seems to me that direct deposit to a bank account bearing only that person’s name would alleviate some of this.


37 posted on 09/26/2012 8:07:52 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: tbw2

Sounds like it’s happening more frequently here, too.


38 posted on 09/26/2012 8:38:44 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office!)
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To: Grams A

You would also think death records w/b cross referenced.


39 posted on 09/26/2012 8:42:41 AM PDT by wordsofearnest (Proper aim of giving is to put the recipient in a state where he no longer needs it. C.S. Lewis)
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To: PapaBear3625

Hope not. Fraud is less severe than murder, obviously.


40 posted on 09/26/2012 8:44:41 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office!)
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To: Grams A
Makes me more sure that ever that they don’t ever do an administrative audit. They need to scrap the current data base and make everyone sign up again in person with proof of identity and citizenship. Also seems to me that direct deposit to a bank account bearing only that person’s name would alleviate some of this.

No it wouldn't. For the last decade of my mom's life, I handled all her bill paying. I signed her checks. I had the debit card and the PIN and withdrew cash for her.

One thing that might work is to send each SS recipient a notice by registered mail, wherein the recipient must sign for it and show ID to the postman before getting it. If undeliverable, the SS checks are suspended until it's sorted out.

41 posted on 09/26/2012 9:01:33 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

The guy is smiling while being booked. Its got to be the most fun he’s had in 25 years.


42 posted on 09/26/2012 10:27:29 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wordsofearnest; PapaBear3625

You would also think death records w/b cross referenced.”

You would think so - but what if no one reports the death to the proper agencies?

Having worked with data files for longer than I want to think about, there are probably already so many patches and updates to information in the SS system that it has lost all its credibility. Really needs to be scraped and set up with safeguards to ensure that the information as entered and when revised is correct.

Re payment of bills and handling financial affairs for an elderly or disabled person, I do have some clients that I do that for and have done that for relatives. But I always had a court issued document authorizing me to serve as administrator and the checking account includes that designation. That way all parties have some protection.


43 posted on 09/26/2012 11:11:26 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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