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Organs taken from patients that doctors were pressured to declare brain dead: suit
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/organ_ghouls_of_doom_suit_LxCZMP5uRGgI6yn3ywMN9J ^ | September 26, 2012 | JAMIE SCHRAM Police Bureau Chief

Posted on 09/26/2012 8:38:50 AM PDT by longtermmemmory

The New York Organ Donor Network pressured hospital staffers to declare patients brain dead so their body parts could be harvested — and even hired “coaches” to train staffers how to be more persuasive, a bombshell lawsuit charged yesterday.

The federally funded nonprofit used a “quota” system, and leaned heavily on the next of kin to sign consent forms when patients were not registered as organ donors, the suit charged.

“They’re playing God,” said plaintiff Patrick McMahon, 50, an Air Force combat veteran and nurse practitioner who claims he was fired as a transplant coordinator after just four months for protesting the practice.

The suit, filed in Manhattan Supreme Court, cited four examples of improper organ harvesting.

In September 2011, a 19-year-old man injured in a car wreck was admitted to Nassau University Medical Center. He was still trying to breathe and showed signs of brain activity, the suit charged.

But doctors declared him brain dead under pressure from donor-network officials, including Director Michael Goldstein, who allegedly said during a conference call: “This kid is dead, you got that?” the suit charged.

The patient’s family consented to have the organs harvested.

“I have been in Desert Storm, Iraq and Afghanistan in combat. I worked on massive brain injuries, trauma, gunshot wounds, IEDs. I have seen worse cases than this and the victims recover,” McMahon told The Post.

That same month, a woman was admitted to St. Barnabas Hospital in The Bronx still showing signs of life, the suit said.

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In November 2011, a woman admitted to Staten Island University Hospital after a drug overdose was declared brain dead and her organs were about to be harvested when McMahon noticed that she was being given “a paralyzing anesthetic” because her body was still jerking.

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KEYWORDS: donor; harvest; organs; sourcetitlenoturl
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To: longtermmemmory

A friend of mine just donated a kidney to a co-worker. The recipient had no matches among the few family members who were eligible. Both are doing well!


21 posted on 09/26/2012 9:09:46 AM PDT by Mrs. P (Figures can lie, and liars can figure.)
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To: Cicero

Well the “affordable care act” with its death pannels is designed to reduce costs by ending the lives fo the elderly based on the burden they present.


22 posted on 09/26/2012 9:13:19 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

This is bothersome. Whatever happened to death occurring when the heart stops beating???


23 posted on 09/26/2012 9:18:28 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: longtermmemmory

i specified that nothing will be removed from my body without just and fair compensation. why should everybody in the chain of transplants make money except the source?funny how if everybody adopted this scheme, then i bet the supply would greatly increase...just sayin’


24 posted on 09/26/2012 9:19:26 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: longtermmemmory

I don’t think it is the money, or at least not directly. I think it is utilitarianism.

The doctors are thinking, if this patient survives he will be severely brain-damaged (the worst fate imaginable to doctors, who have enormous pride in their intelligence, and tend to be control freaks.) OTOH, if this patient dies he can provide a better quality of life to half a dozen mentally competent people.

Sure the surgeries and the anti-rejection drugs will be really expensive but at least it is not futile, pointless spending in caring for a patient who is vegetative or severely brain-damaged.

And it’s really better for the family anyway - let it be a clean quick death with the consolation of having done something good in saving others, rather than a long, lingering, living death for someone who will never recover a meaningful life.

So do they justify themselves.


25 posted on 09/26/2012 9:22:23 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: longtermmemmory
In China they harvest organs from live prison inmates, the popular preference is Falun Gong prisoners but any will do.

People in China also make aborted baby soup as a aphrodisiac.

These are human evils that are resultant of man-centered morality. Without God, we only answer to man. This is what is reflected in New York and Washington and Massachusetts and China and any “secularist” society/culture.

We have raised generations of children to believe life is disposable and that its importance/sanctity/dignity should give way to convenience, need, want, cost, difficulty, etc, all depending on someone else’s desires.

Obamacare will be just like the people who rammed it through and into law despite the wishes of Americans - an atheistic socialist culture of death.

26 posted on 09/26/2012 9:28:58 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: longtermmemmory

This is why I am not an organ donor. I KNOW the stuff that goes on. When there are people involved, there are mistakes. An organ donor statement or DNR is like getting a power of attorney, in a way. You’ve given away your right to make that decision at the time it may matter.

I have kids, they know my wishes.


27 posted on 09/26/2012 9:37:37 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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"And it’s really better for the family anyway - let it be a clean quick death with the consolation of having done something good in saving others, rather than a long, lingering, living death for someone who will never recover a meaningful life"

This is the exact kind of atheistic secularist beliefs that have enabled us to end up where human life is considered to have no real value. You sit here and pretend to know something of value about someone else's life - you know nothing. You are simply some other fool pretending. Yet, in that little world of yours, the extremely small world...the one behind the tip of your nose, you've deluded yourself into believing that you have it all figured out. God is the only one who has any right at all to decide how long someone is to live on this earth.
28 posted on 09/26/2012 9:38:17 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: longtermmemmory

When I renewed by driver’s license earlier this year, I declined to designate myself as an organ donor for the first time in many years. I no longer have confidence in the hierarchy that controls such medical decisions, and particularly not since government involvement in medical decisions is constantly increasing.


29 posted on 09/26/2012 9:41:02 AM PDT by Will88
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To: jacknhoo

There was a picture on Drudge the other day of a man they ran over in a road flattening machine because he would not get out the way while they were taking his land. I’m sorry I looked, it’s still with me.

I kept thinking, at least here they arrest you, rather than run you over.


30 posted on 09/26/2012 9:41:14 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: longtermmemmory

sounds like the benevolent system “*His Divine Shadow” setup.
*from the SciFi show Lexx


31 posted on 09/26/2012 9:41:14 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: jacknhoo

Whoops should be clearer on that, the picture was in China.

Now I’m thinking, the driver is probably in trouble because they can’t harvest the flat guys organs...at least not his brains...


32 posted on 09/26/2012 9:42:25 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: longtermmemmory

33 posted on 09/26/2012 9:45:09 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: freedomlover

what is that from?


34 posted on 09/26/2012 9:48:35 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: I still care
I kept thinking, at least here they arrest you, rather than run you over.

For Now.

35 posted on 09/26/2012 9:50:25 AM PDT by gunnut
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To: I still care

China? At least they have no influence on our leaders. It’s not like we’re indebted to them or anything. Oh, yeah, nevermind.


36 posted on 09/26/2012 9:52:43 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

consider our new “collectivist medical care”

research grinds to a halt. No more advancements since government controls. (see Atlas Shrugged and the only thing government scientists devloped as a nifty new metal polish)

No gene therapy, no long term treatment. no eldercare. Just take your soma and die. (see brave new world for those from rio linda)


37 posted on 09/26/2012 9:57:11 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: heartwood
And it’s really better for the family anyway -

Having someone else decide or place a value on the life of another is end of freedom.

and what has caused so much damage in our past and present

38 posted on 09/26/2012 10:06:12 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: longtermmemmory

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aclS1pGHp8o


39 posted on 09/26/2012 10:06:34 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: longtermmemmory
I read a novel a few years back where the villains were bringing in illegals from Europe by ship that had operating rooms. Just before they made port they would harvest while still outside the 3 mile limit. Surgeons would helicopter out and return with the harvest. Can't remember the name of the book.
40 posted on 09/26/2012 10:09:55 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again")
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