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America’s Dumbest War, Ever
Michael Yon Online ^ | 26 September 2012 | Michael Yon

Posted on 09/26/2012 9:12:17 AM PDT by neverdem

Yesterday a concerned father forwarded to me a letter from his son in Afghanistan. I confirmed authenticity, and republish with permission:

Dad,

I am fed up. I cannot believe the lack of attention the recent changes in this war is receiving by the media or the country. I think I saw one thing on CNN about the following subject, but I had to dig extensively to find it. The purpose of this letter is to let you know of the garbage that our soldiers are going through right now. With this knowledge, I hope that you take action by writing your congressmen.

First, because of the recent green on blue incidents or "insider threats" as the new buzz phrase dictates, all coalition forces in Afghanistan have completely stopped partnering with the ANA, AUP, and ALP in order to prevent the death of anymore CF casualties by ANSF or Taliban disguised as them. This is also greatly spurred by President Karzi's indifferent attitude and lack of action to take measures to prevent further insider attacks.

Second, because of this massive change in policy (and complete change in mission) all U.S. forces are forbidden to actively patrol their AO and are to remain on their respective COPs/FOBs. There are only a few exceptions to this rule and they all pertain to "hardening" highway 1 in our AO. We have received orders that clearly state that all CF will no longer be allowed to drop air to ground munitions within the country of Afghanistan. This preempts Karzi's announcement that will be made shortly that states the above mentioned order, making it a tactical directive that he is ordering.

To the first point: Our mission in Afghanistan...

---snip--

So the question now becomes, what is our mission?

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So why are we here?...

(Excerpt) Read more at michaelyo.n-onlinecom ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; michaelyon; military; yon

1 posted on 09/26/2012 9:12:21 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

WWI was dumber.


2 posted on 09/26/2012 9:13:46 AM PDT by DManA
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To: neverdem

There is some pretty stiff competition for that title.


3 posted on 09/26/2012 9:14:48 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Kosovo definitely deserves consideration.


4 posted on 09/26/2012 9:20:48 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: neverdem

Iraq was the dumbest. Just made Iran more powerful, and attacked the wrong people AND helped give us Mullah Obama.


5 posted on 09/26/2012 9:21:26 AM PDT by PghBaldy (I am sick of Obama's and Hillary's apologies to muslims, especially after 11 September 2012.)
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To: DManA
"WWI was dumber."

and the war on poverty remains the dumbest.....

6 posted on 09/26/2012 9:22:07 AM PDT by texanyankee
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To: texanyankee

How about the war on drugs. Its been going on for 50 years.


7 posted on 09/26/2012 9:26:51 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: neverdem

When Michael Yon writes...I read. Thank you for posting this desperate letter. That young soldier sounds really frustrated. What can we do to help get the word out? I’ll contact my congressman and hope others will as well.


8 posted on 09/26/2012 9:27:42 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,Â)
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To: DManA

WWI was dumber.

Yeah, we should have backed der kaiser on that one....


9 posted on 09/26/2012 9:30:02 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: neverdem
So why are we here?...

Lots of reasons and not one of them is worth the life of a single soldier. Globalist fantasies about nation building. Defense contractors making big bucks. Bringing soldiers home would cause another spike in the unemployment rate...

Have no fear soldier, we'll figure it out before your great grandson writes the same letter 60 or 70 years from now.
10 posted on 09/26/2012 9:30:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: dfwgator

That was the one I had in mind - with McCain and company grinning gleefully as we bombed Christians to save Muslims. At least Afghanistan was well-intentioned - I still don’t know what we were trying to do in the Balkans.


11 posted on 09/26/2012 9:31:22 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: neverdem
"Deja vu" all over again Brother.

From a Viet Nam Vet

12 posted on 09/26/2012 9:32:23 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: GraceG

We should have stayed out of it.


13 posted on 09/26/2012 9:37:20 AM PDT by DManA
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To: neverdem
Dumbest link ever.

http://www.michaelyon-online.com/americas-dumbest-war-ever.htm

14 posted on 09/26/2012 9:40:45 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Whatever a homosexual union might be or represent, it is not physically marital. - F.Cardinal George)
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To: DManA

We shoulda just bombed the sh#t out of ‘em (Iraq and Afghanistan) and got the hell out of there!


15 posted on 09/26/2012 9:46:54 AM PDT by old school
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To: texanyankee
and the war on poverty remains the dumbest.....

Winner!

16 posted on 09/26/2012 9:50:23 AM PDT by r-q-tek86 ("It doesn't matter how smart you are if you don't stop and think" - Dr. Sowell)
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To: neverdem

The Spanish-American War was the most contrived...but the War Between the States could have been prevented if Buchanan had had the guts to order the arrest of those hotheads in Charleston harbor from the start...


17 posted on 09/26/2012 9:53:42 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: DManA
WWI was dumber.

But back then it wasn't intentional.


18 posted on 09/26/2012 10:00:21 AM PDT by Iron Munro (US Embassies Come and Go But An Obama Apology Lasts Forever)
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To: warchild9
Buchanan had had the guts to order the arrest of those hotheads in Charleston harbor from the start...

Not to give Buchanan that much of a pass, but he had no historical president to work with...no lessons from previous US history. I don't think he could have foreseen a bloody four-year civil war.

But Bush II and Obama both had the Vietnam precedent. The Afghanistan war is just Vietnam 2. When Bush II set up the original ROE with all that nation-building nonsense, he was simply repeating all the KNOWN mistakes of the Vietnam war.

19 posted on 09/26/2012 10:01:26 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: neverdem

Protect your Soldiers.
The word “commander” is traced back to Sanskrit and basically means “the one to whom we entrust our beloved”. To command is to be given a sacred trust. You are to protect the people we love. These Soldiers are our brothers, our sisters, our sons, our moms and our dads. We love them. We expect you to do your best to protect them.
Our President Obama is the “Commander In Chief”. He has been given a sacred trust, and he has crapped all over it. He doesn’t care any more about his Soldiers than he does about a dead cat on the side of a road. Unpleasant to look at but not his problem.
We pay this joker’s wages. We’re his boss. He needs to get his behind to the next twelve military funerals and serve as the OIC. I don’t think he’s capable of learning what he should from the experience, but I want him to look in a mother’s or widow’s or kid’s eyes and see what that loss means to them. This war is just national politics to him, but it’s life and death to Soldiers and their families and God damn him for not caring.


20 posted on 09/26/2012 10:02:21 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: woodbutcher1963

Incorrect. The WOD has been going on since about 1914 when southern Democrats convinced the members of Congress that blacks were getting high on cocaine and raping white women and that the drugs ought to be outlawed.


21 posted on 09/26/2012 10:12:59 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: blueunicorn6
President Obama is the “Commander In Chief ..... I want him to look in a mother’s or widow’s or kid’s eyes and see what that loss means to them.

I am absolutely serious when I say that I don't think he is capable of this ... of seeing what that loss means. The guy is so seriously warped and introverted into what is only going to benefit HIM .... just look at his refusal to meet with the leader of a country who is in mortal danger ... the 'bumps in the road' that are Chris Stevens, etc. Unless it will benefit HIM, the guy doesn't care and doesn't want to know. As someone famously said, he's not a bad man, he's just a bad President. I vehemently disagree - he's evil to the bone and in every way imaginable.

22 posted on 09/26/2012 11:07:32 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: MissMagnolia
he's evil to the bone and in every way imaginable.

You think "evil" is a good descriptor? Could be. It could also be that he's literally incapable of feeling sympathy/empathy. Not that such a notion is comforting, of course--either way, he needs to be in a position no higher than, say, "bartender."

23 posted on 09/26/2012 11:10:43 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I was originally going to use the word ‘bad’. He possibly is literally incapable of feeling sympathy/empathy ... this means we have what, a psychopath for a president? I feel so much better now. /s

Psychopath - a person with a psychopathic personality, which manifests as amoral and antisocial behavior, lack of ability to love or establish meaningful personal relationships, extreme egocentricity, failure to learn from experience, etc.


24 posted on 09/26/2012 11:19:45 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: PghBaldy

Iraq was stupid unless it was a prelude and launching point for regime change in Iran. Because there was no follow-up to Iraq, it was just a waste of men and money.


25 posted on 09/26/2012 12:37:09 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: MissMagnolia

I still say we need a million Pitchfork packin’ person vigil outside the White Hut for Obamuzzie’s last night there to make sure he doesn’t stay a minute longer than the law allows. It’s a 6,000 mile run for me but I’d bring a truckload of pitchforks.——————————Semper Fi.


26 posted on 09/26/2012 12:46:31 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: neverdem

fixed the link:

it is: http://www.michaelyon-online.com/americas-dumbest-war-ever.htm


27 posted on 09/26/2012 1:11:19 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: MissMagnolia; Future Snake Eater
Psychopathology can easily result from having a young troubled person having a close relationship with another psychopath. That is what happened to BHO when his grandfather facilitated his grandson's relationship with Frank Marshall Davis.

Not only was Davis a communist but he had a number of sexual fetishes a major one was sexual attraction to young boys and girls. Davis either with direction from some other parties or as a functioning communist leader groomed BHO to be what he is through behaviorist methods that included sexual seduction and regular sex abuse along with withdrawing affection for no reason to totally disrupt the young Barry's psyche. I am certain there was a lot of impregnational propaganda implanted during this perverse relationship. The result is the human time bomb that is now the POTU. He is incapable of empathy for anyone else because he is so confused, angry , and rage filled about himself. This is a man who often wishes he was never born and then like Caligula wishes all humanity had but one neck so he could wring it.

28 posted on 09/26/2012 1:40:24 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: Iron Munro

any war started by old guys with huge feathered bird plumes perching on their hats has to be dumb.


29 posted on 09/26/2012 2:27:19 PM PDT by RitchieAprile (my French needs no pardoning..)
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To: neverdem

Our current war in Libya is dumber.


30 posted on 09/26/2012 2:34:12 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: neverdem

bump for later


31 posted on 09/26/2012 2:50:25 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for posting this. I just read it on another forum and did a search to make sure it was posted here. Very, very disturbing information on many levels. Romney should pull this letter out at the debate, read it and tell Zero to explain why he is using our soldiers as political pawns!


32 posted on 09/26/2012 2:54:58 PM PDT by Batman11 (We came for the chicken sandwiches and a Sweet Tea Party broke out!)
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To: MissMagnolia

You described him perfectly.


33 posted on 09/26/2012 4:21:38 PM PDT by dglang
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To: Wuli; Jeff Chandler

Thanks for correcting the URL. I don’t know how mine got altered.


34 posted on 09/26/2012 6:54:38 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Lancey Howard

FYI


35 posted on 09/26/2012 6:56:47 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: DManA; neverdem; dfwgator; PghBaldy; kearnyirish2
I think Afghanistan was necessary to strike at the Talibs

WWI was also necessary for the US economic purposes as the German empire started sinking American ships and with the Zimmerman telegram offered Mexico to make war against the USA promising Mexico support to take back the South-West

Vietnam, Korea were sensible in the sense that their aim was to stop communism. Vietnam may have failed in its objective, but its purpose was clear

I call Gulf War I as the dumbest war -- to help the Saudis fight the Iraqis

Iraq under Saddam would have been a bulwark against both Iran and Saudia Wahabbi Al Qaeda

Also, our putting troops on Saudi soil is what prompted bin Laden to plan 9/11

36 posted on 09/26/2012 11:34:15 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: DManA
if the USA stayed out of WWI, the war could have dragged on much longer and potentially Germany could have been so weakened that the Soviets would have walked in (as they nearly did in 1920, only stopped by the Poles in the Miracle on the Vistula)

Also, a potential war with Mexico could have been in the offing in the 20s if the war dragged on.

37 posted on 09/26/2012 11:37:34 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos
I think Afghanistan was necessary to strike at the Talibs

OK, but what happened afterwards? I could probably write for a hour on all of our mistakes. Start with nation building in Primativastan, a dubious ally in Pakistan, etc. We ignored religion, culture, history and geography when we jumped in with both feet.

38 posted on 09/27/2012 12:35:18 AM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
Yes, afterwards I agree with you. But the main idea of the war was correct

We should have gone in an then invaded Pakistan after that

39 posted on 09/27/2012 1:57:43 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

WWI was a farce because the U-boat campaign and Zimmerman telegram were spurred by the fact that we as a neutral were arming Britain with the weapons to kill troops of the Central Powers. I live within a few miles of 2 sites in NJ that were bombed/burned by German sympathizers during WWI (prior to our entry) - Black Tom Island in Jersey City (1916) and the Canadian Car & Foundry Co. in Lyndhurst (January 1917). These places were targeted by Americans who rightfully felt they were violating our neutrality.

Whatever propaganda was spewed at the time, the fact is that we went to fight for Britain at a time when “the sun never set on the British Empire”; German colonies by comparison were fairly immaterial (and Austria-Hungary, Turkey, and Bulgaria had none).


40 posted on 09/27/2012 2:27:54 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Leaning Right

The “nation-building” rhetoric is/was a euphemism for “corporate takeover before the Russians/Chinese get in there.”

The Great Game will never end.


41 posted on 09/29/2012 10:17:40 AM PDT by warchild9
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