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Spain Recoils, as Its Hungry Forage Trash Bins for a Next Meal
NYT via CNBC ^ | September 25, 2012 | Suzanne Daley

Posted on 09/26/2012 10:02:15 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

On a recent evening, a hip-looking young woman was sorting through a stack of crates outside a fruit and vegetable store here in the working-class neighborhood of Vallecas as it shut down for the night.

At first glance, she looked as if she might be a store employee. But no. The young woman was looking through the day’s trash for her next meal. Already, she had found a dozen aging potatoes she deemed edible and loaded them onto a luggage cart parked nearby.

“When you don’t have enough money,” she said, declining to give her name, “this is what there is.”

The woman, 33, said that she had once worked at the post office but that her unemployment benefits had run out and she was living now on 400 euros a month, about $520. She was squatting with some friends in a building that still had water and electricity, while collecting “a little of everything” from the garbage after stores closed and the streets were dark and quiet.

Such survival tactics are becoming increasingly commonplace here, with an unemployment rate over 50 percent among young people and more and more households having adults without jobs. So pervasive is the problem of scavenging that one Spanish city has resorted to installing locks on supermarket trash bins as a public health precaution.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012issues; americaisnext; crushliberalism; economy; killsocialism; nobama2012; redistribution; socialism; socialistdemocrats; spain; spreadthewealth; stealthewealth
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1 posted on 09/26/2012 10:02:20 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: Kartographer
Of interest.

/johnny

2 posted on 09/26/2012 10:03:53 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Winston Churchill: Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
3 posted on 09/26/2012 10:05:11 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

"Enterrar y callar"
(Bury them and keep quiet)

From Goya's Disasters of War

4 posted on 09/26/2012 10:10:02 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
So pervasive is the problem of scavenging that one Spanish city has resorted to installing locks on supermarket trash bins as a public health precaution.

I guess starvation isn’t as big a public health problem, YET.

5 posted on 09/26/2012 10:10:15 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: PGR88

The problem is that socialism sounds great to the unthinking. Envy is a powerful human emotion, and what sounds better than taking money away from the rich and distributing it to the have not’s.

The fallacy lies in the fact that “money/wealth” is NOT a static fixed pot which is stable and permanent. Wealth must be created continuously to be available for sharing. Only real wealth creators are mining, agriculture, manufacturing and applied product development. And almost all engaged in those activities can be classified as rich. You discourage those wealth creators, and the pot available to share shrinks.


6 posted on 09/26/2012 10:12:16 AM PDT by entropy12
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To: entropy12

‘zackly.


7 posted on 09/26/2012 10:15:41 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I’m sure the government of Spain could simply raise taxes on the rich to pay for the basic needs of these poor souls.


8 posted on 09/26/2012 10:15:47 AM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

But she has some new shiny windmills (that provide nothing but feel-good vibes) nearby to tilt at.


9 posted on 09/26/2012 10:19:15 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: rightwingintelligentsia; StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; ...
Meanwhile, also in Spain...

In Spain, while the country mulls asking for a bailout from the European Central Bank, a whole other crisis is brewing. The relatively well-off Catalonia region, which includes the commercial hub of Barcelona, has announced that it will hold snap elections and a referendum to decide whether it should break away from Spain and form a separate republic. Many Catalans resent that their region pays more taxes and receives fewer government services than other regions where the economy is less robust.

Read more: Markets Decline While Catalonia Mulls Secession From Spain

10 posted on 09/26/2012 10:24:11 AM PDT by nutmeg (I'm with Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz: "ABO"/Ryan 2012)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
The natural result of a country spending way too much and then running low on suckers willing to lend it money.

Fortunately we still have enough suckers today.

11 posted on 09/26/2012 10:25:09 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("Government is the only thing that we all belong to"=implicit repeal of the 13th amendment for all.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
The young woman was looking through the day’s trash for her next meal. Already, she had found a dozen aging potatoes she deemed edible and loaded them onto a luggage cart parked nearby.

Simple solution for her:

(1) Find a man who has a good job.

(2) Ask him to let you move in with him.

(3) Do whatever you need to do to make him want to keep you and feed you.

12 posted on 09/26/2012 10:26:40 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

They just need to vote for more socialists and give more money to the parasites.


13 posted on 09/26/2012 10:28:42 AM PDT by soycd
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To: PapaBear3625

Think that ought’a work for boys, too?


14 posted on 09/26/2012 10:29:08 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Interrobang.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

It would be happening here if the EBT’s cards weren’t flowing from ‘Bama’s stash like coke at a Hollywood party.


15 posted on 09/26/2012 10:29:48 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Think that ought’a work for boys, too?

Never claimed it would.

It's generally applicable, though:

(1) Find somebody who has money, food and/or shelter.

(2) Find out something that you can do that would please that person enough that he provides you with some.

(3) Do what's needed.

(4) On the side, you may look for somebody who will provide you with better, at less effort from you.


16 posted on 09/26/2012 10:38:46 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: PapaBear3625

I think the problem is the men are looking through trash themselves...

I hope there are still some private charities in Spain.


17 posted on 09/26/2012 10:39:44 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The true face of a “Green Economy.” Yet our leftards are still pushing the same policies here.


18 posted on 09/26/2012 10:40:23 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

This crisis will impart a generational lesson. The last generational lesson was given in the late 30s to mid 40s.


19 posted on 09/26/2012 10:40:46 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: PapaBear3625
"(3) Do whatever you need to do to make him want to keep you and feed you. "

Ah...

You're so old fashioned.

20 posted on 09/26/2012 10:44:34 AM PDT by blam
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Coming to a country near you!


21 posted on 09/26/2012 10:45:30 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: blam

That’s not old fashioned. It’s ignorant.


22 posted on 09/26/2012 10:48:42 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: miss marmelstein
There will always be more people desiring charity, than there will be charity to provide. The only long-term solution is to eliminate all obstacles from people willing to offer their services for whatever an employer is willing to provide.

If Spain eliminated all rules making it hard for employers to fire those who don't work out, people would be more willing to hire. If they eliminated all rules setting minimum wages and benefits, then people with minimal skills to offer would be more able to find work.

And if they deported all the unskilled immigrants, then native Spaniards would be much more able to find work.

23 posted on 09/26/2012 10:49:57 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: wiggen

It is a survival strategy that has worked for the last 4,000 years or so. Denying it is what’s ignorant.


24 posted on 09/26/2012 10:51:35 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: wiggen
That’s not old fashioned. It’s ignorant.

"That's ignorant": what a liberal says about a position he dislikes, but to which he has no reasoned response.

25 posted on 09/26/2012 10:52:00 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Lurker

Probably a lot more than 4,000.


26 posted on 09/26/2012 10:56:34 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Oh. I was just worrying about hungry people in Spain and whether there were any private charities to take care of them in the short term. I’m not into philosophy right now.


27 posted on 09/26/2012 10:58:48 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: entropy12
"The problem is that socialism sounds great to the unthinking..."

Seriously Socialism is awesome and works great...

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Right up to the point you introduce humans into the equation and then everything goes to hell in a hand basket in short order...

28 posted on 09/26/2012 10:59:33 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Can't say they weren't warned - from nearly a century ago:

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."

29 posted on 09/26/2012 11:05:13 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: miss marmelstein
Oh. I was just worrying about hungry people in Spain and whether there were any private charities to take care of them in the short term.

There probably are charities, and they are probably stretched.

Charity depends on there being many more employed people willing to give to charity than there are unemployed people needing charity. Much like welfare depends on there being more taxes being paid than claims being filed.

I was on a long road trip with a liberal lady a while back, and we had a long discussion on the subject. What I think convinced her was my telling her "What would you prefer: tightening up on welfare now, or waiting for the system to collapse? If we wait for a collapse, more people will die."

30 posted on 09/26/2012 11:10:54 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

You warn people over and over and over that socialists eventually run out of other people’s money... and they are still shocked when it happens

And then the socialists run away and when conserrvatives get elected and try to fix the problem, they are called heartless and blamed for it because they are cutting spending


31 posted on 09/26/2012 11:11:06 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: wiggen

“(3) Do whatever you need to do to make him want to keep you and feed you. “

And the alternative? do whatever you need to do to make the Federal Gov’mt want to keep you and feed you?

Maybe start wearing a towel wrapped around my head with a fanbelt?!!


32 posted on 09/26/2012 11:12:20 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Simple solution for her:
(1) Find a man who has a good job.
(2) Ask him to let you move in with him.
(3) Do whatever you need to do to make him want to keep you and feed you.

Prostitution by any other name would still be immoral to many of us who feel our bodies are temples that God made. I would rather die of starvation than move in with a man I didn't know, just for for "three hots and a cot." I'm worth much more than that, and I suspect I'm not alone in my thinking.

Shame on you for suggesting that.

33 posted on 09/26/2012 11:15:42 AM PDT by Monkey Face ("Vegetarian" is another word for a lousy hunter.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Good advice for young women. Generally worked out well for them for millennia until this women’s lib thing came along.


34 posted on 09/26/2012 11:15:52 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Well, on the bright side, her carbon footprint must be next to nothing.

35 posted on 09/26/2012 11:19:03 AM PDT by Kenton (Feed the Homeless to the Hungry...)
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To: Monkey Face

Shame on you for completely ignoring 4,000 years of recorded human history. You say you’d “rather die” but I’ll bet whatever sum you wish that after about ten days of eating out of garbage cans....


36 posted on 09/26/2012 11:19:04 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: PapaBear3625

How about the fact the men have no jobs either and couldn’t feed her if he was married to her? Oh wait i forgot we live in some fairy tale world where all the men have jobs and all the women are incompetent.


37 posted on 09/26/2012 11:22:00 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: mo

Maybe a little common sense and perhaps just one math course and you’d figure out that a quarter of the men there don’t have jobs and can’t feed themselves either.
I bet if that was a male in the article you’d be wondering why he didn’t have a job.
Maybe 2 seconds of thought before commenting.


38 posted on 09/26/2012 11:24:17 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen
How about the fact the men have no jobs either and couldn’t feed her if he was married to her? Oh wait i forgot we live in some fairy tale world where all the men have jobs and all the women are incompetent.

Definitely a liberal. You claim that NO man, ANYWHERE in Spain, has a job?

39 posted on 09/26/2012 11:26:10 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: entropy12

Part of the problem is Socialism but a bigger part is the Central Banking economic criminal control & printing of money, iows fiat currency.


40 posted on 09/26/2012 11:27:42 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Spain is a perfect audio-visual aid for the kind of socialist mediocrity Ubama and the rats want for America.


41 posted on 09/26/2012 11:28:30 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: PapaBear3625

Are you practicing stupid?
Did i say no man?
The first refuge of the biggest fools on here are is to draw out their conservative card as though thats going to protect them from being fools.
So she finds a man how about the next and the next or is she the only woman scrounging in garbage for food in Spain?
Please.
If you want to pull out conservative credentials don’t do it in public and embarrass the rest of us.


42 posted on 09/26/2012 11:29:48 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: PapaBear3625
They usually balk at:

4) Don't expect to be his only one. A man with resources has many options in difficult economic times.

Which I think is part of the reason Democrat politicians and their paid lackeys work so hard to create difficult economic times. :)

43 posted on 09/26/2012 11:30:47 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Monkey Face

Please read on. He claims that position makes him a conservative.
He needs a mew dictionary.


44 posted on 09/26/2012 11:32:47 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Monkey Face; mo
Prostitution by any other name would still be immoral to many of us who feel our bodies are temples that God made.

I never said "prostitution". If her cooking and housekeeping skills are sufficient to keep her fed, then fine. See my #16 for a more generalized version.

In a societal breakdown on the level that Spain is seems to be heading toward, there will not be enough charity nor government welfare to deal with all the people who will ask for charity.

What is your alternative suggestion?

45 posted on 09/26/2012 11:34:19 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: PapaBear3625

You have no suggestion.
You denigrate all the hard working women conservative women.
Your views on women are more in line with the middle east than the United States.


46 posted on 09/26/2012 11:38:21 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen
Your statement was "How about the fact the men have no jobs either and couldn’t feed her if he was married to her?".

"The men have no jobs" is a general statement, implying that the set of men with jobs is effectively the null set. Twenty-five percent unemployment implies that seventy-five percent DO have jobs.

My statement was "Find a man who has a good job", meaning "Of the total set of men, select from the sub-set of men who happen to have an income that will support more than just himself".

47 posted on 09/26/2012 11:40:16 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: KarlInOhio

>>Fortunately we still have enough suckers today. <<

Yeah, the Fed.


48 posted on 09/26/2012 11:42:57 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Your tattoo looks stupid.)
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To: wiggen
You have no suggestion. You denigrate all the hard working women conservative women.

The woman in the article is in the situation she's in, precisely because she ISN'T working. She's unemployed.

Spain's welfare system has broken down. THERE IS NO MONEY to give her. So she has to scrounge.

Again, do you have an alternate solution, or are you just going to have a temper tantrum over somebody pointing out harsh realities?

49 posted on 09/26/2012 11:45:08 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: PapaBear3625

You can dance around all you want but the fact is there is a quarter of the population jobless and of that a percentage with no income. Thats the fact. Its out there. It’s not debatable. There will always be more of that anonymous woman out there and eventually no husbands with jobs. You can pretend your suggestion was only about her while ignoring the tens of thousands of other women in the same boat across Spain but that will not change the fact that you consider women second class citizens.


50 posted on 09/26/2012 11:45:23 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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