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To: Marathoner

I’ll tell you exactly what is going on..its exactly what Obama wanted when spoke at Loyota University in 1998, he talked about a total dependency on Govt so that it will be a permanent political system(Democrat controlled forever)..you have 50 percent of Americans who pay ZERO taxes, you have 15+ million more Americans collecting welfare and food stamps..you have more and more people reliant on Govt, of course they would keep on voting for the party that keeps on giving them free goodies, thats just the way it is, and you also have a media SO in the tank for Obama they refuse to report ANYTHING that he does remotely wrong. If the media were unbiased in this country Obama would be down 30 points right now..People are sheep, they do what the media tells them to do..and if at the end Obama does win re-election I guess in a sad way this country gets what it deserves


37 posted on 09/26/2012 11:08:39 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

My take: people are not upset about America’s global standing, competitiveness or economic freedom. They have been inculcated to be ashamed of being best, first or strongest unless it is a beauty or singing contest, where they can legitimately conclude it is all a matter of personal preference.

A good friend’s 30-something son who lives in the Pacific NW, told us that his life hasn’t changed at all since the 08 election, so he had no problem w/zer0. Another 30-something who has lost his home, but still has a job is convinced “Romney is a crook” and so, will vote zer0. Another 30-something privileged child of a high-earning professional has chosen to live in an extremely liberal region, where she runs a business totally financed by Dad, but since we “no longer have to endure the 8 years of suck” that she thinks characterized 2000-2008, she will vote for zer0. Nothing gets thru to these people. They all work, pay taxes and provide their own health insurance or use a HSA.

Another cohort of die-hard socialists over 65 have theirs and therefore, all is well and they will help out any kids who are being harmed economically. The Jewish ones are ashamed of their inherited religion because Israel isn’t viewed favorably. The Catholic ones pick and choose what they believe. The Protestant ones applaud all redistribution, imported immigrants and all social entitlements as *good*. The Greens love downsizing and simplicity and think we all need to *do something* about *dirty energy*. They are happy to sacrifice for the collective. Everyone who voted for Ron Paul admits they would vote D if RP wasn’t available. Romney investigating the Fed or studying a gold standard means nothing to them, as they simply want to be viewed as radical.

Meanwhile, conservatives who are in business for themselves must watch what they say in order to not alienate customers. We refer to others as “one of us” or “not one of us”. The progressives are extremely confident, happy and satisfied. Better another 4 years of conservatives getting a comeuppance than ever voting for a Republican. They want us “to get what (they think) we deserve”. It is team/tribal politics writ large.

I still think Romney has a chance, but there are far too many Americans who are quite comfortable with things as they are and they are not necessarily taking entitlements. They are living on their capital or have assurance of inheriting family assets and if others are “being helped by government” that is not only fine, it is exactly how they think it should be. If they or their family personally fail, it comforts them to contemplate government help.


58 posted on 09/26/2012 2:16:42 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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