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Deadly Libya Attack a Major Blow to CIA (and Obama? Does this explain the lies?)
New York Times/MSNBC ^ | September 24, 2012 | ERIC SCHMITT, HELENE COOPER and MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT

Posted on 09/26/2012 10:26:40 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

The attack in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans has dealt the Central Intelligence Agency a major setback in its intelligence-gathering efforts at a time of increasing instability in the North African nation.

Among the more than two dozen American personnel evacuated from the city after the assault on the American mission and a nearby annex were about a dozen C.I.A. operatives and contractors, who played a crucial role in conducting surveillance and collecting information on an array of militant armed groups in and around the city.

“It’s a catastrophic intelligence loss,” said one American official who has served in Libya and who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the F.B.I. is still investigating the attack. “We got our eyes poked out.”

American operatives at the mission also assisted State Department contractors and Libyan officials in tracking shoulder-fired missiles taken from the former arsenals of Colonel Qaddafi’s forces; they aided in efforts to secure Libya’s chemical weapons stockpiles; and they helped train Libya’s new intelligence service, officials said.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: benghazi; cia; obama; wot
If it were Bush, the NY Times page 1 headline would have been "Deadly Libya Attack a Major Blow to BUSH"!
1 posted on 09/26/2012 10:26:44 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
“It’s a catastrophic intelligence loss,”

There is no intelligence in the CIA.
If they were so smart, why did those folks get whacked?

2 posted on 09/26/2012 10:37:04 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of No! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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To: Seizethecarp

I would say the WHOLE Libya endeavor has been a blow to the United States and other non-brotherhood countries. I think they’ve loosed a dangerous mess on us.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2011/09/ap-us-attempts-to-keep-tabs-on-libyan-scientists-091511/
Libyan WMD discovery refutes Pentagon claims
Anti-Gaddafi forces came across tons of nuclear-related materials on Thursday, which contradicts previous Pentagon assertions that all of Libya’s weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) were secure.

http://www.examiner.com/article/libyan-wmd-discovery-refutes-pentagon-claims

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“The raw uranium is considered a lower security risk by U.S. officials as it would need large-scale process and enrichment in order to be used to power a bomb. Still, the material could be an attractive target to individuals or rogue nations with the wherewithal to build a nuclear explosive, AP reported.

The U.S. State Department has dispatched specialists to Libya to meet with opposition officials and other North African governments on continuing to adhere to international nonproliferation pacts and increasing the security at border crossings to stem the feared flow of arms out of Libya.

The Obama administration is taking steps to make certain that “the governing forces in Libya have full command and control of any WMD or any security assets that the state might have had,” State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said on Tuesday.

A number of U.S. officials are worried NATO might not have adequate personnel in Libya to ensure the sensitive substances are not left vulnerable if regime troops abandon their stations. The western alliance made the decision early on in the conflict not to deploy troops on the ground.”

“As recently as last month, Human Rights Watch researchers found an unguarded weapons site with thousands of crates of rocket-propelled grenades and anti-aircraft rounds in the Libyan desert.

discovered two military compounds housing chemical weapons that an official said were ready to be assembled and used, as well as another site containing 7,000 drums of raw uranium. The officials would not give further details.”

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Weapons smuggling across the border into neighbouring Egypt “happens all day and night,” controlled by powerful clans in the area, said Adel al-Motidi, commander of the patrol units on the two countries’ border.

“We can do nothing to stop it,” he said. Among the contraband were machine guns and rocket launchers.

Israeli officials have said some of those weapons have reached the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip, which shares a border with Egypt.

” in dismantling Libya’s WMD programs points toward North Korea as the source”

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Two caches with 43 anti-aircraft missiles and other weaponry have been unveiled in Algeria. Local security forces say the arsenal was smuggled in from Libya and buried near the border.

­The two caches were found near the town of In Amenas, in southern Algeria on the Libyan border. That is according to Algerian daily El Watan, which cited on Monday an unnamed security official. One cache contained Russian 9K338 Igla-S (NATO reporting name SA-24 Grinch) and 9K32 Strela-2 (SA-7 Grail) shoulder-fired surface-to-air missile systems – all taken from the arsenals of Libya’s former leader, the late Muammar Gaddafi.

It is estimated that Gaddafi’s arsenals numbered some 20,000 of such missiles – the largest among non-producing countries. The main fear here is that all this deadly cargo can now be easily smuggled out of Libya by various terrorist groups, including local branches of Al-Qaeda, and then used to attack civil aviation targets anywhere in the world.

Thousands of missiles are already believed to have gone missing when Libyan rebels toppled Muammar Gaddafi and helped themselves to government stockpiles.

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The United States has sent 14 weapons experts to the country and already spent $6 million to help secure thousands of surface-to-air missiles that have gone missing since the beginning of the fighting. According to officials, the State Department is working with Congress to increase funding to $40 million.

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The discovery of the shells has prompted a probe, led by U.S. intelligence, into how the Libyans obtained them; several sources said early suspicion had fallen on Iran. “We are pretty sure we know” the shells were custom-designed and produced in Iran for Libya, said a senior U.S. official, one of several who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the accusation.

A U.S. official with access to classified information confirmed that there were “serious concerns” that Iran had provided the shells, albeit some years ago. In recent weeks, U.N. inspectors have released new information indicating that Iran has the capability to develop a nuclear bomb, a charge Iranian officials have long rejected. Confirmed evidence of Iran’s provision of the specialized shells may exacerbate international tensions over the country’s alleged pursuit of weapons of mass destruction.

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3 posted on 09/26/2012 10:41:42 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Seizethecarp

Good Job Panetta! Another “Clinton-treat-it-like-a-crime” idiot. From Center for American Progress to CIA! This Administration is a complete failure.


4 posted on 09/26/2012 10:42:38 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (We the People are coming!!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Petraeus.


5 posted on 09/26/2012 10:44:12 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: grobdriver

Even Obama-coddling Wikipedia indicts Barry’s admin. and proves his lies at the UN and Clinton and Rice’s earlier lies:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Consulate_attack_in_Benghazi

Background

Al-Qaeda had sponsored a series of terrorist attacks on United States facilities over the previous two decades, including the 1998 United States embassy bombings in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam, and the September 11th attacks of 2001.[11] In May 2012 an Al-Qaida affiliate calling itself the Imprisoned Omar Abdul Rahman Brigades claimed responsibility for an attack on the International Red Cross office in Benghazi. The group later released a video of what it said was its detonation of an explosive device outside the U.S. Consulate on June 5. The Brigades claimed that the June 5 attack was in response to the killing of Abu Yahya al Libi, a Libyan al-Qaeda leader who had just died in an American drone attack, and was also timed to coincide with the imminent arrival of a U.S. diplomat.[5][12] There were no injuries, but the group left behind leaflets promising more attacks against the U.S.[13]

After the fatal September 11 attack, CNN reported that a Benghazi security official and a battalion commander had met with U.S. diplomats three days before the attack and had warned the Americans about deteriorating security in the area. The official told CNN that the diplomats had been advised that “[t]he situation is frightening, it scares us.”[14]

On the day of the attack, Al Qaida leader Ayman al-Zawahiri declared that al Libi’s death still needed to be avenged.[15]

On September 14 CNN reporter Arwa Damon found Ambassador Stevens’ diary at the unsecured site of the attack. In it, Stevens expressed his concern about the growing al-Qaeda presence in the area and his worry about being on an al-Qaeda hit list. The U.S. State Department would later accuse CNN of violating privacy and breaking its promise to Stevens’ family that it would not report on the diary.[16]


6 posted on 09/26/2012 10:45:50 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
Poison Photo-Drop .. decision to release photographs .. will imperil nation .. its defenders.
Tue May 12 09:52:58 2009 · 13 of 21
null and void to Sergeant Tim

Before he is done I fully expect him to release the names, addresses and phone numbers of anyone anywhere in the world who has ever provided any information to agency workers.

The damage to US intel will last multiple generations.

I will refrain from making any comments or speculation about self-preservation instincts of wet work operatives.
7 posted on 09/26/2012 10:46:47 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1345 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Eagle of Liberty
Oh crap......Petraeus is now head of CIA....forgot about that one. And Panetta moved to Sec. Def.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/general-david-petraeus-cia-leon-panetta-pentagon-major/story?id=13470031#.UGM-pPlLOoM
8 posted on 09/26/2012 10:47:59 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (We the People are coming!!)
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To: blueunicorn6
It will be some time before we get Petraeus’ side of the story. I expect that Barry and Hillary tied his hands with some ludicrous rules of engagement.

I guess he will be called to testify before the House, but not until after the election and likely not even in public for what really happened.

9 posted on 09/26/2012 10:50:19 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Eagle of Liberty

I’d love to know what Petraeus thinks about all of this. It is such a colossal intelligence failure, one has to conclude that we have too many enemies within.


10 posted on 09/26/2012 10:53:50 AM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: demkicker
Does anyone else find it strange that Hillary was using Innocence of Muslims as a CYA before the attack on the Benghazi consulate?
11 posted on 09/26/2012 11:52:03 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Seizethecarp

A major blow to the CYA, as well.


12 posted on 09/26/2012 11:53:33 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Seizethecarp
Isn't it way past the time that we admit that "affirmative action" is destroying competance at every level of our society.

And no where more so than government.

13 posted on 09/26/2012 12:26:34 PM PDT by Pietro
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To: Pietro
Scotus could kill what is left of affirmative action this year now that O'Connor has been replaced by Alito!
14 posted on 09/26/2012 12:48:48 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

What INTELLIGENCE?

Clinton got snookered into believeing that ‘electronic monitoring’ could replace boots on the ground. It was wrong.

Hence, many, many operatives that were well placed all over the world were withdrawn.

Now—it’s one SURPRISE!! after another.


15 posted on 09/26/2012 1:50:11 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Irenic

Tonight and tomorrow see DISH Channel 212

WATCH ‘THE PROJECT’ TONIGHT 8 PM CH 212 DISH

Tonight 8 eastern on GBTV or Dish channel 212
The Project. A two part documentary that focuses on the Muslim Brotherhood and their infiltration into our government.

Tonight, DISH network channel 212.

8pm eastern
7pm central
6pm mountain
5pm pacific

The most important show to air on television all year long. If you have questions or concerns as to why certain aspects of this world look as they do today, watch this.

The Blaze TV has been working on a 2 part documentary about “The Project” for a year. It will be aired next week.

“The Project” is a Muslim Brotherhood plan to destroy the USA step by step.

For anyone who has bothered to pay attention... the Muslim Brotherhood (and CAIR) has deeply infiltrated and infected our government.

Accordingly to the above link... there were far more Muslim delegates at the DNC than ever before. It sure explains why the DNC platform had issues with God and what the capital of Israel was, doesn’t it.....

The Muslim Brotherhood “Project”
This is an old article from 2006, but is a great reference.

Glenn beck has a two-part documentary coming out this week on The Blaze about this.

[link to archive.frontpagemag.com]

In fact, such a document was recovered in a raid by Swiss authorities in November 2001, two months after the horror of 9/11. Since that time information about this document, known in counterterrorism circles as “The Project”, and discussion regarding its content has been limited to the top-secret world of Western intelligence communities. Only through the work of an intrepid Swiss journalist, Sylvain Besson of Le Temps, and his book published in October 2005 in France, La conquête de l’Occident: Le projet secret des Islamistes (The Conquest of the West: The Islamists’ Secret Project), has information regarding The Project finally been made public. One Western official cited by Besson has described The Project as “a totalitarian ideology of infiltration which represents, in the end, the greatest danger for European societies.”

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readarticle.aspx?artid=4476


16 posted on 09/26/2012 2:51:37 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Seizethecarp

A film's fault
CIA's fault
Intelligence fault

Obama/Clinton's fault!


17 posted on 09/26/2012 3:56:45 PM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Seizethecarp

Obama had 3 days warning.
He sent them there without marines nor armed guards.
He was told of the attack and ignored thenews and went to bed and not the situation room.

Gross negligence and incompetence.
Hillary should be fired.
Obozo should resign.


18 posted on 09/26/2012 4:01:18 PM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Seizethecarp
“It’s a catastrophic intelligence loss,” said one American official who has served in Libya and who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the F.B.I. is still investigating the attack. “We got our eyes poked out.”

Just another 0bama victory in his quest to neuter the most powerful country on the planet.

19 posted on 09/27/2012 5:33:26 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: TigersEye

Yes and I find her every bit as disgusting as Obama.


20 posted on 09/27/2012 8:54:22 AM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: Bon mots
Obama had 3 days warning.

Why do people keep saying that?

Congress was warned about Libya last month - September 13, 2012

WASHINGTON - In the months leading up to his death, Chris Stevens, the U.S. ambassador to Libya, worried about constant security threats in Benghazi and mentioned that his name was on an al Qaeda hit list, a source familiar with his thinking told CNN.


21 posted on 09/27/2012 10:03:15 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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