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The Mexican Mormon War (Drug Cartels vs. Mormons in Mexico)
Youtube ^ | 9/16/2012 | Vice / Youtube

Posted on 09/26/2012 5:31:18 PM PDT by Dallas59



Video Linky Here


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cartels; drugs; drugwar; mexico; mormans; warondrugs; wod; wodlist; wosd
Disclaimer: I do not support the opinions of the film maker in regards to the war on drugs or immigration. I had asked the mods if it would be ok to post the video and got the go ahead. If you can get past the producers comments on Mr.Romney (including a few cuss words) at the last of the video and Mitt's cousins comments on the same...I believe you will find the video very interesting. Mods, if it is necessary to pull this post, please do so.
1 posted on 09/26/2012 5:31:26 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59

Producers comments:

“The cartels of Juarez, Mexico, are at war with a group of Mormons, some of whom are related to Mitt Romney. We went there to document the conflict, meet Romney’s Mormon family, and find out more about how US policy is impacting the war on drugs.”


2 posted on 09/26/2012 5:33:14 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Dallas59

BTY..it’s 41 minutes long.


3 posted on 09/26/2012 5:37:43 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Dallas59

Anyone else think this guy looks eerily like Reagan, In the face? An interesting story.


4 posted on 09/26/2012 5:40:33 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

If Romney is elected we may be hearing more about the border than we do now.


5 posted on 09/26/2012 5:42:28 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Dallas59

mormons have been there for decades, started because of polygamy.
If they are fighting the drug cartels, good for them.
These killers are not like other mafias, Sicilian mafia’s don’t kill children.


6 posted on 09/26/2012 5:45:27 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

Do the yakuza kill children?


7 posted on 09/26/2012 5:48:54 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

I do not know anything about Japanese organized crime, do they?


8 posted on 09/26/2012 6:02:22 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Dallas59

I couldn’t take more than five or six minutes, or so.

Given this guy’s intent to make a film about Mormons including LDS beliefs, you’d think he would have at least been smart enough to learn from an authoritative source what those beliefs ACTUALLY are instead of making uninformed, inaccurate and inane descriptions that distort reality in extreme ways. Oh well.


9 posted on 09/26/2012 6:32:48 PM PDT by JustTheTruth
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To: JustTheTruth

It’s not a film “about Mormons.” It’s about a group of families, who happen to be Mormon, living amongst the drug cartels and how they deal with the situation. Any info “about Mormons” was mostly provided by the family members.


10 posted on 09/26/2012 6:37:50 PM PDT by BufordP (Chuck Norris doesn't check under the bed anymore. He wears Clint Eastwood pajamas.)
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To: JustTheTruth

Try again, skip the first 7:30, skip the rodeo to op ride along.


11 posted on 09/26/2012 6:45:28 PM PDT by waynesa98
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To: JustTheTruth

Try again, skip the first 7:30, skip the rodeo to cop ride along.


12 posted on 09/26/2012 6:45:40 PM PDT by waynesa98
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To: svcw
Bookmarked for later viewing. I've long believed that the only long term solution for the Mexican problem is to encourage or sponsor an independent buffer state in Northern Mexico. Within a generation, it would be well on the way to being a first world country.

Most of the Mexicans with whom I have been personally acquainted from the northern part of the country are, for the most part, industrious and independent, not so different from their American cousins north of the border.

From just north of Mexico City and southward, corruption and indolence is a way of life. The climate in the south is such that they could continue to survive as a Banana Republic, choosing either the third world dictatorship path of Venezuela or functional Democracy path of Costa Rica.

But the north contains too much desert and marginal land suitable for ranching and dry farming to survive as a kleptocracy. Hard work is required-- the very type of hard work which could thrive and be rewarded if an independent Northern Mexican State were given the resources and support to wipe out the drug cartels.

13 posted on 09/26/2012 7:00:14 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman
Most of the Mexicans with whom I have been personally acquainted from the northern part of the country are, for the most part, industrious and independent, not so different from their American cousins north of the border.

Agreed

14 posted on 09/26/2012 7:37:34 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Vigilanteman

I don’t believe so, I think a north-Mexico state would become a narco-state because of it’s proximity to the US and ability to shift drugs north


15 posted on 09/26/2012 7:52:16 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Vigilanteman

If the government insist on printing money we should build thorium reactors to run desalinization plants on the coast. Pump that water through the region using canals for irrigation. The agricultural potential would surpass the Columbia river basin.

They can grow anything if they can get water on it. I don’t think the Pacific would run out of water any time soon either. It would be fun to watch the heads of environmentalist explode. :)

It is not unprecedented. Look up the Rosarito seawater plant in Baja. There are other desalinization projects around the world and many of these are based on nuclear energy. It’s a great use of nuclear power during non-peak hours. If the government were smart they would encourage private enterprise like this because of the net economic benefit.


16 posted on 09/26/2012 7:57:29 PM PDT by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: Dallas59
The producer of that video is an idiot and a liar.

The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.

17 posted on 09/26/2012 9:50:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: volunbeer; Cronos
Interesting observations by both of you.

The main thing which allows narco-terrorist to thrive is rampant corruption in the Mexican government which allows them to pay off and even seize control of local police, judges and the like.

I'm not saying that Northern Mexicans are immune to the corruption and bribery which is endemic in the south, but they are certainly less inclined toward it.

Put in the right leadership and enforcement and they will go with their natural inclinations toward industriousness versus their southern cousins natural inclination toward following the course of least resistance.

Case in point: Columbia, which was once a haven for narco terrorism and corruption and, sadly, with the neglect of the Obama administration may move back in that direction. Yeah, we gave them a little money during the Bush administration to help clean it up. But the results were dramatic. Even after four years of neglect under ObaMao's regime, they are still on the right path toward first world status.

18 posted on 09/27/2012 7:16:24 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman
The main thing which allows narco-terrorist to thrive is rampant corruption in the Mexican government which allows them to pay off and even seize control of local police, judges and the like.

And what allows them to pay off local police, judges and the like are drug-war-inflated drug profits.

19 posted on 09/27/2012 8:28:13 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Yes, drug-war-inflated drug profits driven by demand of a huge number of druggies north of the border whose habits are enabled by government checks and soft on crime policies.

I think we need a new program awarding a permanent green card for every industrious Mexican in exchange for a permanent deportation to Mexico of an equal number of government teat sucking druggies.

20 posted on 09/27/2012 8:34:30 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Yes, drug-war-inflated drug profits driven by demand of a huge number of druggies north of the border whose habits are enabled by government checks

Halting government checks would probably take a bite out of the market for drugs both illegal and legal (alcohol, tobacco) - but I know of no reason to think that market would be decimated.

and soft on crime policies.

I know of no evidence that overall level of drug use is correlated with softness/toughness of crime policy.

21 posted on 09/27/2012 9:02:38 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
I know of no evidence that overall level of drug use is correlated with softness/toughness of crime policy.

I'm talking less about drug laws than the burglary and other sh*t which is carried out to support the damn habits.

22 posted on 09/27/2012 9:09:36 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman
What locality is "soft on" burglary?
23 posted on 09/27/2012 9:33:55 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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