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Snacks: The USDA's Solution To Student's Healthy Lunch Complaints
ABC News ^ | Sept. 26, 2012 | AMY BINGHAM

Posted on 09/26/2012 5:44:08 PM PDT by neverdem

According to Department of Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, the solution to the growing grumbling over re-vamped school lunch menus boils down to a good old fashioned snack.

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Under the new regulations, cafeterias are required to serve twice as many fruits and vegetables while limiting proteins and carbohydrates. For an average high school student, that means two baked fish nuggets, a cup of vegetables, half a cup of mashed potatoes, one whole grain roll and 8 ounces of fat free milk is the fuel that served to get them through their...

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For Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, that "scant diet" is a "rude awakening" for schoolchildren across the country. King and Rep. Tim Huelskamp, R-Kansas, introduced the "No Kids Hungry Act" this month to repeal the new lunch menu standards and prohibit the calorie limits.

"Kids are of varying sizes, activity levels and metabolism rates," King wrote in a Des Moines Register op-ed. "How can we expect each child to flourish and grow on subsistence diets? This all because some are overweight."

But it is not just a few overweight kids that are causing calorie cuts across the cafeteria. One out of every four adolescents are too overweight to join the military, according to a report released Tuesday by Mission: Readiness, a group of retired military leaders who claim obesity is now a national security issue.

"Removing the junk food from our schools should be part of comprehensive action that involves parents, schools and communities in helping children make healthy food choices," retired U.S. Coast Guard Admiral James Loy said in a statement. "The bottom line is that the armed services must have a sufficient pool of fit young adults to draw from in order to field enough recruits with the excellent qualifications needed to staff a 21st century military."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: health; obesity; snacks
More one size fits all policies.
1 posted on 09/26/2012 5:44:17 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
U.S. Coast Guard Admiral James Loy said in a statement.

Shut up, Admiral, and tend your knitting.

/johnny

2 posted on 09/26/2012 5:46:35 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: neverdem

Tenth Amendment:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Hint:

Education is not delegated to the United States by the Constitution. Nor is the diet of school children.


3 posted on 09/26/2012 5:51:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: neverdem

Fruits and vegetables are mostly carbohydrates. How can one increase fruits and vegetable servings while reducing carbohydrates?


4 posted on 09/26/2012 5:54:42 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: neverdem
"But it is not just a few overweight kids that are causing calorie cuts across the cafeteria. One out of every four adolescents are too overweight to join the military...
Removing the junk food from our schools should be part of comprehensive action...
The bottom line is that the armed services must have a sufficient pool of fit young adults to draw from in order to field enough recruits...to staff a 21st century military."

Am I the only one who finds this disturbing?

5 posted on 09/26/2012 6:00:04 PM PDT by norton
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To: norton
These people are, themselves, fascist pigs. Repeal the law. Take the regulation writers who came up with this one out for a sound beating on the MALL.

I tracked down these rules and savaged them on the basis of the harm they do to diabetics and the gluten intolerant ~ a good 5% of the student bodies ~ and they didn't bother responding to my statement ~ as is required by law.

Their intent is to take the load off Michelle Obama's butt ~ not to make school lunches healthier.

6 posted on 09/26/2012 6:06:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: neverdem

Here’s and idea:...BRING YOUR OWN FREAKIN’ LUNCH! Then you can have what ever you want with no one deciding for you.


7 posted on 09/26/2012 6:06:54 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: neverdem

8 posted on 09/26/2012 6:07:30 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: neverdem

Convicts eat better than these kids.


9 posted on 09/26/2012 6:08:07 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: neverdem

School lunchrooms now need UN food aid deliveries


10 posted on 09/26/2012 6:08:55 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: FrdmLvr

It is their lunch, we paid for it after all!


11 posted on 09/26/2012 6:12:22 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: neverdem; JRandomFreeper

12 posted on 09/26/2012 6:15:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: norton
Am I the only one who finds this disturbing?

I found it disturbing enough that for the first time in my life I directed a "shut up' to a flag officer.

I don't think this former NCO has ever done that before. But he needs it.

/johnny

13 posted on 09/26/2012 6:15:46 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: neverdem

Let them eat snacks!


14 posted on 09/26/2012 6:17:00 PM PDT by Lonely Bull
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To: FrdmLvr
BRING YOUR OWN FREAKIN’ LUNCH!

In some places, they aren't allowed to.

/johnny

15 posted on 09/26/2012 6:17:47 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: FrdmLvr
"Here’s and idea:...BRING YOUR OWN FREAKIN’ LUNCH! Then you can have what ever you want with no one deciding for you."

Where have you been?

State Inspectors Searching Children's Lunch Boxes

Chicago School Bans Some Lunches Brought From Home

2nd N.C. Mother Says Daughter's School Lunch Replaced For Not Being Healthy Enough

16 posted on 09/26/2012 6:19:14 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Earlier today, I started watching YouTube(tm) videos from the cold war era, shot in communist countries.

At first, I scoffed at the fools, then I got depressed, then... I started looking for tips on how to cope.

/johnny

17 posted on 09/26/2012 6:20:48 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: neverdem

“two baked fish nuggets”

MMM-MMM! Nothing like “baked fish nuggets” to really get the old stomach rumbling.

Of course, I’m sure only the highest quality, fresh-caught fish went into those ‘nuggets’. (Bleah!)


18 posted on 09/26/2012 6:25:10 PM PDT by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: norton; Jim Robinson
Am I the only one who finds this disturbing?

Disturbing in what way? For Obama as the commander in chief, or for the fact that some of these kids are so fat that they already developed type 2 diabetes, i.e. MODY, Maturity Onset Diabetes in the Young?

The job market is bad news now, especially for kids. The first time I had a regular job was in the Army in 1969. Even if they want to join one of the reserve components, they have to make the standards of active duty to join.

19 posted on 09/26/2012 6:27:45 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

It’s none of the fed’s business.


20 posted on 09/26/2012 6:34:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: norton

Am I the only one who finds this disturbing?


No you are not, I too find it very disturbing. It’s like another sign that the “elites” are planning on going back to the draft.

And I can see that happening with all of the social experiments being made in the military like the repeal of DADT.


21 posted on 09/26/2012 6:42:58 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: neverdem

The government should not be involved in deciding what children eat for lunch.

As another poster on another thread put it, if kids are obese, school lunch probably plays the smallest role of everything involved.


22 posted on 09/26/2012 6:49:14 PM PDT by rlmorel ("It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong." Voltaire)
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To: neverdem

“”draw from in order to field enough recruits with the excellent qualifications needed to staff a 21st century military.””

That officer didn’t get the memo - obozo doesn’t want a military in the 21st century!


23 posted on 09/26/2012 7:01:02 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: norton
My thought is that school lunches are not where the problem is. school lunches should provide children with roughly 1/3 the calories they need to get through the day. Hungry children are not going to learn well, even if they are overweight. The thing is, when we did not have this obesity problem, we still served lunches that offered a lot of calories and “junk food.” This has not changed and this has not caused the problem. The problem lies with parents not being educated, perhaps, and this is where Michelle Obama could do some good. I also think more exercise would be a good idea as well. Let's bring back good old fashioned PE five times a week, not to mention recess twice a day where the children go outside and play (except in really bad weather when they play in the gym.)
24 posted on 09/26/2012 7:07:46 PM PDT by erkelly (Never underestimate the stupidity of the stupid party!)
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To: neverdem

“More one size fits all policies.”

I went through a long phase of approx age 12 thru 16 when I ate like a pig, it seemed as if I could not get enough and was always skinny, still am but I eat more rationally now. Every body metabolizes food differently. You’re right, there is no “one size fits all” some kids just need more than others to keep those pangs away.

Our fat ass first “lady” is nuts in addition to being fat assed..


25 posted on 09/26/2012 7:08:38 PM PDT by Holly_P
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To: neverdem

this makes me sick, When I was in school 1966-1977 all our meals were homemade from scratch, And they were wonderful. Fried chicken, Pot pies,meatloaf,hamburger pie, steak, mashed potatoes, gravy,green beans,vegetable soup,grilled cheese sandwich,hamburgers,fries,peanut butter cookies, cinnamon rolls,chocolate cake, no bake cookies,apple crisp,rolls etc. I still love that food and can still smell the food cooking and starving.


26 posted on 09/26/2012 7:08:47 PM PDT by therut
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To: neverdem

Idiots in charge...never give your kids over to a communist school system! End of problem for them...


27 posted on 09/26/2012 7:11:04 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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To: FrdmLvr
Here’s and idea:...BRING YOUR OWN FREAKIN’ LUNCH! Then you can have what ever you want with no one deciding for you.<<

and here's another....limit EBT cards to fruits and vegetables and you'll love the school lunch!

28 posted on 09/26/2012 7:29:40 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: FrdmLvr
Here’s and idea:...BRING YOUR OWN FREAKIN’ LUNCH! Then you can have what ever you want with no one deciding for you.

They've already thought of that. They are confiscating home made lunches and throwing them away... next, they'll be bringing charges against the parents for abuse if the lunch doesn't meet "standards."

29 posted on 09/26/2012 7:45:43 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: therut

I use the Roman rule. Anything I can carry with me marching 10 miles everyday, I can keep.


30 posted on 09/26/2012 7:54:48 PM PDT by Tuanedge (Tigers don't eat horns.)
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To: neverdem

Fascists, when I pick my niece up from high school, it’s like pigs to the trough at the McDonald’s across the street, the entire football team is there too, I bet fast food is doing well under Moochele’s plan!


31 posted on 09/26/2012 8:38:45 PM PDT by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: neverdem

“But it is not just a few overweight kids that are causing calorie cuts across the cafeteria. One out of every four adolescents are too overweight to join the military, according to a report released Tuesday by Mission: Readiness, a group of retired military leaders who claim obesity is now a national security issue. “

Exactly matches Mooch’s proclamations


32 posted on 09/26/2012 8:53:33 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: norton

a disturbing lie....This is only a valid argument if the nation has a draft. Since we have a volunteer army those who volunteer will be the ones motivated to be in shape....this is more admin propaganda to exert control where they should not


33 posted on 09/26/2012 8:55:16 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: neverdem

As if we really needed another reason to homeschool....


34 posted on 09/26/2012 9:07:40 PM PDT by VRWCer ( They will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. - ML King)
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To: The Working Man
...sign that the “elites” are planning on going back to the draft.

I wonder why they haven't thought of drafting all the kiddies when they're five years old?

That way they can feed them, house them in barracks, and run them through perpetual boot camp.

That ought to keep them fit enough to be cannon fodder.

35 posted on 09/26/2012 9:11:55 PM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: El Gato; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; jb6; tiamat; PGalt; Dianna; ...
I'm no fan of the nanny state, but when "[o]ne out of every four adolescents are too overweight to join the military," I'm not surprised the military is concerned.

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36 posted on 09/26/2012 11:32:32 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: rlmorel

Schools are government indoctrination camps. Here’s a teacher’s page from a top Chicago grammar school. He teaches social studies.

About me: https://sites.google.com/site/mrbarashsocialstudies/mr-barash

Make sure you check out his photo.

The “good” speeches list: https://sites.google.com/site/mrbarashsocialstudies/home/speech-links

These kids are raised up by socialists in a leftist propaganda echo chamber. These kids go on to become our “elites”.


37 posted on 09/27/2012 4:40:48 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
"...What I enjoyed most about my work was the knowledge that I was impacting people's lives in a positive way. After a brief foray into the for-profit sector and the world of start-ups, I realized that I missed that feeling of doing good and decided to pursue a career in education. As a teacher, my goals are to empower students to see the world beyond the limitations of their own experiences, to develop the skills to give voice to their ideas and to develop the courage to try and positively change the world..."

You have this guy pegged spot on, 101ORD.

Granted, he is one of those who would bring a young child to an "Occupy Whatever" event, and his choices of "good" speeches tars him pretty accurately and lets you easily see what that "world beyond the limitations of their own experiences" he wants to paint for his students.

I am certain his foray into the "for-profit sector and the world of start-ups" was indeed very brief, and I have a feeling his exit from those sectors was a mutual agreement, but I suspect they people he dealt with in those sectors were thrilled to get rid of a pontificating no-load, and he was happy to get out of it while he still had any of his evil money left and into a unionized teaching job with lots of nice guaranteed benefits normal people never have a chance at.

I like to divide liberals up into three types: the normal ones who are decent and good-hearted, but don't understand the implications of the things they believe in; the ones who spout the party line with fevered eyes and spittle on their lips-they REALLY believe this stuff, but don't understand it; and lastly, the ones who really UNDERSTAND what liberalism is really all about, power, and the control of others in order to achieve an impossible utopia. If you have ever read 1984, these people may be likened to O'Brien, and in today's world, those people would be William Ayers, Francis Fox-Piven, Obama.

I know many people in the first third, and engage with them occasionally. The second third are exceedingly unpleasant, and I have met them at various demonstrations and counter-demonstrations. The last third I avoid.

This loser is the middle third. He doesn't know that the last third, the ones who really understand liberalism, view him in much the same manner as the last third views us, but with even more contempt.

To them, this Chicago teacher guy is a tool. Someone for whom the term "useful idiot" was originally created. In a way, it is sad, because if that last third gets their way, this dope is going to be one of the people who disappears in the middle of the night, pleading in puzzled tone as they take him away "Why are you doing this? I agree with you! I believe in what you believe in! Why am I being treated this way?

He will never understand that they view him as a tool, and tools have a duality in their nature...they can be used either to build something up or tear something down. A tool used to build something can also be used, with the appropriate guidance, preparation and application, to tear that very same thing down.

They know this. And it is why you see the Soviet Union, China, Khmer Rouge, etc. liquidate the intellectuals, doctors, teachers, writers, leaders. They only want them as tools to gain an end, and once they gain that end, they know how dangerous they can be to their own cause.

38 posted on 09/27/2012 6:17:12 AM PDT by rlmorel ("It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong." Voltaire)
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To: rlmorel

http://asspos.blogspot.com/2012/09/international-aid-delivered-to-us.html

UN Food Aid for US Schools


39 posted on 09/27/2012 6:20:15 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: rlmorel
Breakfast - big, carb-loaded and with enough protein to grow...that's the way I handle the kids.

My grandson's typical breakfast is pasta chased with a bottle of Boost, has been for years. He's eleven, 5'5" and 128 pounds, football, b-ball and LAX. He's an A student and popular. My wife makes his lunch every day and it's never big but always good. I throw in a power bar.

We don't rely on the school to feed him.

40 posted on 09/27/2012 6:25:22 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: neverdem

Gay men in the military will be calling for the draft to be re-instituted... watch for it.


41 posted on 09/27/2012 4:04:10 PM PDT by GOPJ (You only establish a feel for the line by having crossed it. - - Freeper One Name)
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To: mass55th

Where have I been? On the front lines - teaching. Our school district does NOT confiscate lunches from home (yet), nor do any other school districts in our area. The thing is, most kids at our school don’t bring their own lunches because they get free or reduced school lunches. But the district does follow the federal guidelines for lunches and breakfasts. Yes, they all get free breakfasts....I know.


42 posted on 09/27/2012 4:33:32 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: Nifster
a disturbing lie....This is only a valid argument if the nation has a draft.

Do you have proof it's a lie?

Also, are you saying "This is only a valid argument if the nation has a draft" 'at this time'?
Why would you think that can't change in the future?

43 posted on 09/27/2012 4:34:28 PM PDT by fanfan ("But if Muslims were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: neverdem
I'm no fan of the nanny state, but when "[o]ne out of every four adolescents are too overweight to join the military," I'm not surprised the military is concerned.

Here's a radical and subversive thought: instead of starving everybody, why not take the OVERWEIGHT kids and have them do more exercise?

44 posted on 09/27/2012 4:40:26 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: FrdmLvr
"Where have I been? On the front lines - teaching."

You're a brave soul. I spent 25 years working in max and medium state prisons, and I figure my job was a lot easier than yours.

45 posted on 09/27/2012 5:04:47 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

Well, at least you had bars between you and the inmates. And then there are the liberal teachers and a constitutional amendment on the ballot enshrining the right to collective bargaining in the state constitution and pressure from the union to “volunteer” to push it. They are taking names of those who “volunteer”. I am against it.


46 posted on 09/27/2012 5:33:43 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: FrdmLvr

They were only behind bars for the counts, and at nighty-nite time. The rest of the time they were out and about. I worked as a Safety Officer at a psych center before I took the job in Corrections. I saw more action as a Safety Officer than I did as a Corrections Officer. At least in a prison you can lock them up if they misbehave. You can’t do that in school.


47 posted on 09/27/2012 5:59:27 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: fanfan

You really are silly. Since when is it against the law to be to fat to join the volunteer army? Since when did we decide the government should tell our children what to eat and how many calories are good for them? It is a lie because it is NOT THE TRUTH. That is sufficient proof.

Children today may have weight issues do to several factors...they watch too much TV; they play video games instead of outdoors; the nanny state keeps redefing what ‘obese’ is to make the stats look awful. I do not consider this a ‘national security’ issue. This retired admiral and his yes bos ought to shut the hell up.


48 posted on 09/27/2012 6:15:51 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: mass55th

I worked a long term sub position at our day treatment program where they put the psycho kids. They offered me a permanent position, but I said no thanks and took a job that opened in one of the elementary schools in the district. As it turned out, I ended up with a few kids in fifth grade who should have been in day treatment. They pushed down my sub during a fight in the classroom and broke her arm and bragged about it. And that’s just one incident. At least they have security guards that have your back at day treatment. Probably should have stayed there after all.


49 posted on 09/27/2012 6:29:18 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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