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Hey, Media, a $75K Mechanic Pays a Lower Tax Rate Than Romney
Townhall.com ^ | September 27, 2012 | Larry Elder

Posted on 09/27/2012 4:01:43 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 09/27/2012 4:01:52 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Actually, the writer here is talking about something entirely different from what the average taxpayer thinks about ~ and that is that Romney's average rate for an enormous amount of money is FAR LESS than the top end rate most taxpayers end up paying.

Remember, the rate on earned income is PROGRESSIVE ~ so your first $40K might be taxed $0 because you have various exemptions and deductions, but the next $40 K is certainly going to be at what Mitt paid, and your third $40 K will be taxed at a rate far above anything Mitt paid.

I know there are all sorts of justifications for this disparity, but seriously, people don't look at their average rate, they look at their highest marginal rate when they compare their pitiful little quarter million dollar salaries against $20 million in capital gains!

The conclusion is that even if it's a neat idea and encourages investment ~ in something ~ whatever that is ~ talking about it in public doesn't win voters. Actually, it does this ~ I WANT MITT's AVERAGE RATE!

2 posted on 09/27/2012 4:13:36 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Capital Gains Taxes have been taxed once when the money that was invested was earned... why should it be taxed as income twice? Make Capital Gains taxes high and just kill off what little investment in America is left. I know “personally” what I am talking about. We already have the highest corporate tax rate in the world and it creates millions of new jobs... FOR CHINA AND THE REST OF THE WORLD!

LLS

3 posted on 09/27/2012 4:20:23 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Not all income described as capital gains has been taxed earlier.


4 posted on 09/27/2012 4:33:14 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: LibLieSlayer
BTW, you missed the point entirely. The people making the incomes taxed at those higher marginal rates DON'T GIVE A GOOD GOSH DARN about capital gains rates ~ they just don't want to pay a higher average tax rate than Mitt did!!!!

Just cut the rates ~ and don't be using Capital gains arguments to continue justifying a higher rate on personal earned income!

Best bet is to ELIMINATE the federal income tax!

5 posted on 09/27/2012 4:38:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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Personally I don’t care what Mitt Romney’s tax rate is,

HE PAYS HIS FRICKIN TAXES.

Why isn’t Al Sharptongue in jail? Sharptongue and his crooked organization owe Millions, if he was white his ass would be in jail or broke like Willie Nelson was when they took his taxes.

What about all of Obama’s friends in the Government who didn’t pay their taxes.

What is Harry Reids and Nancy Pelosi’s tax rate?
What is Diane Sawyers tax rate? She is rich.


6 posted on 09/27/2012 4:56:15 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer
There you go again, doing what I just condemned ~ using Mitt Romney's tax rate to justify a higher rate on ME!

Just give me Mitt's rate and be done with it.

And if those other people need to be put in jail, put them in jail.

7 posted on 09/27/2012 4:58:30 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Quit your crying and pay your taxes you Mitt Romney hating troll.


8 posted on 09/27/2012 5:04:44 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Don’t start talking like a fascist pig again. Just cut the tax rates ~


9 posted on 09/27/2012 5:08:40 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Now I like that idea... but the commies would never allow it. We need to pay the least amount of taxes that we can... we cannot trust the government with more money than they need... they are like meth-heads.

LLS


10 posted on 09/27/2012 5:10:52 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: muawiyah

Almost all of it is... almost.

LLS


11 posted on 09/27/2012 5:11:26 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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Homes ~ sell your home you get to pay capital gains on the appreciated value. 401(k) ~ sell your stock, none of the gain from appreciated value is taxed until you take out the money and then you pay at your current federal personal income tax rate ~ and that BTW, is an argument for REDUCING the federal personal income tax rate to no higher than the capital gains rate!


12 posted on 09/27/2012 5:18:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin
So liberals basically created the tax policy in the country and if Mitt pays a lower rate than most middle class well, it's Obama's fault. Make it work out better, give the middle class a lower tax rate hypocrites and stop your bitchin' about "fairness!"

People with common sense know it's great Mitt "only" supposedly paid 14% tax rate, but also believe the rate should be much lower!

13 posted on 09/27/2012 5:28:58 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Kaslin

Journalism = Fiction


14 posted on 09/27/2012 6:36:00 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: LS
Hey, looks like you've got a fan in Larry Elder.

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15 posted on 09/27/2012 6:48:10 AM PDT by kitchen (Over gunned is better than the alternative.)
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Just give me Mitt's rate and be done with it

might be hard to get your brain wrapped around this thought but I'll try anyway...

EVERYONE in the country has Mitt's tax rate. Period, end of story. The tax code is complicated, but anyone and everyone who (acurately) fills in all the little boxes on thier tax forms with the same numbers as Mitt would end up with the same taxes.

I consider my tax "rate" to be how many dollars per hour I send to the government. You know, REAL MONEY. Roads aren't built with percentages, they are built with dollars. Anyone thinking Mitt is skating and a freeloader because he paid a lower percentage of his earnings than someone else, can pound sand. Get back to me when they've forked over more DOLLARS. You know, those spendy things.

16 posted on 09/27/2012 6:53:48 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: kitchen

Thanks. BTW, our new one, “A Patriot’s History of the Modern World, to 1945,” is out on Oct. 11. Hope you’ll pick up a copy.


17 posted on 09/27/2012 7:02:46 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: muawiyah
BTW, you missed the point entirely. The people making the incomes taxed at those higher marginal rates DON'T GIVE A GOOD GOSH DARN about capital gains rates ~ they just don't want to pay a higher average tax rate than Mitt did!!!!

BTW, you missed the point entirely. They don't!

18 posted on 09/27/2012 7:05:29 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: muawiyah
You are right.

Now, I don't think Mitt did anything illegal (he is to smart for that). Can't blame a man for following the tax code.

But I pay double the rate (much less the total money). The argument that is made is either the rich pay more in total so they should pay less as a percentage, or that the rich deserve to keep more because they will possibly use that extra money to hire people.

Both have merits, neither will fly with the guy who can't make ends meet. That is why I said Mitt releasing his returns was bad idea. He did nothing wrong according to the tax code, but he handed the left a HUGE amount of ammunition. I honestly can't understand why he thought it was a good idea.

19 posted on 09/27/2012 7:09:15 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: CMAC51

Try $250,000 ~ normal exemptions and deductions for a family of 4.


20 posted on 09/27/2012 7:26:33 AM PDT by muawiyah
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