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Skewed polls indicate Obama's in trouble - not Romney
American Thinker ^ | September 27, 2012 | Keith Edwards

Posted on 09/27/2012 4:59:54 AM PDT by Evil Slayer

Certain media polls indicating Obama is ahead of Mitt Romney by as much as 10 to 12 points in swing states seem to spell disaster for Romney, but what they really say about the Obama campaign may just surprise you?

The absurdity of the skewed sample models in those polls is one thing, but what conservatives need to understand is that polls skewed to heavily favor Democrats logically point to one very important fact - Obama is in big trouble.

For one thing, Democrats and the liberal media are taking a huge chance by touting polls showing Obama up by double digits in crucial swing states as if these polls were totally valid. Obviously designed politically to depress and suppress Romney voters, these media driven and heavily reported polls can also backfire and suppress the Obama vote. Naturally, if you support Obama and are treated every day to wall-to-wall news headlines showing Obama so far ahead of Romney in the polls that the election is basically over, then you're less likely to go out of your way to vote in November. So there's a really fine line between turning out your voters and turning off your voters when using polling data like this. In this case, it is probably safe to say that internal Democrat polls show low enthusiasm and turnout expectations for Obama supporters across the electorate demographic, so the skewed poll strategy is worth the risk for the campaign.

This risky strategy also indicates that internal Democrat polling is probably more in line with Rasmussen and Dick Morris, showing that Obama is running even or maybe even losing ground to Romney in swing states. Conventional political wisdom makes this evident because a campaign wouldn't waste time and money in states where their candidate is up by 10 or

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1 posted on 09/27/2012 4:59:57 AM PDT by Evil Slayer
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To: Evil Slayer

If you are ahead by 10 points in the polls, why would you be campaigning in Ohio yesterday? Obama’s kneebenders must think we are stupid? Forget what they say, look at where they go.


2 posted on 09/27/2012 5:05:12 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: Hattie

Why would you skip important meetings at the UN to go on campaign trips if you are so far ahead?


3 posted on 09/27/2012 5:07:20 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Evil Slayer
Furthermore, these polls showing huge leads for Obama are not showing any signs of discouraging Romney supporters. In fact, this aspect of the strategy may also backfire and intensify fervor and enthusiasm for Romney just like the attacks on the Tea Party did in 2010 and the attacks on Governor Scott Walker did in Wisconsin turning out record Republican and conservative voters.

Don't be fooled, these skewed polls only show that the Obama campaign and the liberal media are running on empty and desperate enough to try anything to win this election.

Fortunately for America it's not going to work.

4 posted on 09/27/2012 5:08:21 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....)
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To: Evil Slayer

“Furthermore, these polls showing huge leads for Obama are not showing any signs of discouraging Romney supporters. In fact, this aspect of the strategy may also backfire and intensify fervor and enthusiasm for Romney just like the attacks on the Tea Party did in 2010 and the attacks on Governor Scott Walker did in Wisconsin turning out record Republican and conservative voters.

Don’t be fooled, these skewed polls only show that the Obama campaign and the liberal media are running on empty and desperate enough to try anything to win this election.

Fortunately for America it’s not going to work.”

We need to keep at it and keep our eyes open. Make sure our family members get their absentee ballots and vote, so that they don’t get “help” from any volunteers from our union thug friends.

It still amazes me that after all the bus loads of union voters brought in to the Scott Walker election and all the other attempts at vote fraud, he still won.


5 posted on 09/27/2012 5:08:25 AM PDT by Mrs. P (Figures can lie, and liars can figure.)
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To: Hattie

That’s good advice for any politician. Words are cheap. What do they do and how do they vote?


6 posted on 09/27/2012 5:11:29 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Evil Slayer
Democrats and the liberal media are taking a huge chance by touting polls showing Obama up by double digits in crucial swing states

Not such a huge chance. If they're wrong and it doesn't turn their way, it will all be forgotten by the next election cycle.

7 posted on 09/27/2012 5:11:29 AM PDT by WesternPacific (Deafness has its Advantages)
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To: Evil Slayer
Democrats and the liberal media are taking a huge chance by touting polls showing Obama up by double digits in crucial swing states

Not such a huge chance. If they're wrong and it doesn't turn their way, it will all be forgotten by the next election cycle.

8 posted on 09/27/2012 5:11:31 AM PDT by WesternPacific (Deafness has its Advantages)
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To: Evil Slayer

dont underestimate dems ability to turn out voters.


9 posted on 09/27/2012 5:15:59 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Evil Slayer

i have no doubt the corrupt media is skewing their polling to provide the answer they desire,

just like clinton/obama skewed the truth in Libya in devoted alinskyite fashion,

we battle not against flesh and blood, but spiritual darkness in high places,

Pray for God to rebuke these liars, its the only chance we have,


10 posted on 09/27/2012 5:17:47 AM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: Evil Slayer

I wonder what Mitt’s internal polls show? Thoughts?


11 posted on 09/27/2012 5:23:01 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: Evil Slayer
BINGO! Don't fall for the MSM trickery people.
12 posted on 09/27/2012 5:25:51 AM PDT by McGruff (Support your local Republican candidates. They are our last line of defense.)
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To: RexBeach
I wonder what Mitt’s internal polls show? Thoughts?

Look where the candidates are running ads and campaigning. Someone here said Obama was running ads in California. Yikes!
13 posted on 09/27/2012 5:27:02 AM PDT by DaveInDallas
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To: captmar-vell

Amen.. Its in God’s hands.. there’s a remnant of people in this Nation that still believe.. But I have felt for a long time that Obama is God’s punishment for this country abandoning Him, and not driving the Leftists out of power, (and out of the country, ultimately).

We continued to let the atheist socialists get a foothold in every position of power..The schools, the courts, media, elected office. Now we are reaping what we have sown.


14 posted on 09/27/2012 5:28:58 AM PDT by HailReagan78
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To: dalebert
Zer0 signing executive order declaring he won the election even though Romney won by a landslide the night before. Think this wouldn't happen? Don't underestimate the insanity and evil that is within the demon that occupies the WH.


15 posted on 09/27/2012 5:28:58 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....)
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To: Hattie

I think Romney is up 6 in NC and he hasn’t stepped foot in there for awhile.. Yea, they are probably tied or maybe a little behind..


16 posted on 09/27/2012 5:29:41 AM PDT by scbison
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To: Evil Slayer

That is a very real possiblity.
obama has been operating outside the law for his whole term and no one with any power is standing up to him.

And if he did this, his media would go right along with it.


17 posted on 09/27/2012 5:32:19 AM PDT by Texas resident (Let's elect an American this time.)
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To: RexBeach
I wonder what Mitt’s internal polls show? Thoughts?

There was a story here on FR a couple of weeks ago....

seems that the Romney campaign allowed some of his internal polling on a couple of Obama strong states to be leaked to Obama group via a neophyte reporter....

....this reporter was "so pleased with himself" on getting internals from Romney ...but didn't understand the internals...

...when the Obama group took a look at the details they were devastated.

18 posted on 09/27/2012 5:33:12 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: Texas resident
Yes, you are right my FRiend. We are in for a very scary time between now and the inauguration. Anything can happen. Keep the faith.
19 posted on 09/27/2012 5:41:16 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....)
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To: WesternPacific

The huge chance they are taking might be causing OWS types to riot [like the spoiled brats they are] when Obama loses the election. Worst case is they muddy the waters enough to find a way to steal the election.


20 posted on 09/27/2012 5:43:07 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: Evil Slayer

The skewed polls will backfire. conservative voters already do not trust anything that comes out of the mouthes of the drive bys. They are energized and if the purpose if to creat defeatism, it will not work. Too many people know Zee-rho must be defeated and will show up to make that so.

If they have a false hope that it will encourage people to get on the Zee-rho bandwagon and vote for the inevitable winner, well that ain’t gonna happen in THIS cycle. His support is comprised of a lot of folks who can’t even get up to go to work, let alone motivate themselves to make that special effort to gop out of their way to vote for more bennies...er, dumblecrats. IOW, his support is soft.

so I don’t even listen to them much...I might pay some attention around Nov1. By that time even the drive bys will be aghast..just floored, that R2 has made a race out of it.

Spit on all of ‘em.


21 posted on 09/27/2012 5:44:19 AM PDT by Adder (No Mo BO)
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To: captmar-vell

>>>>Pray for God to rebuke these liars<<<<

PSALM 37

12 The wicked plot against the righteous
and gnash their teeth at them;
13 but the Lord laughs at the wicked,
for he knows their day is coming.
14 The wicked draw the sword
and bend the bow to bring down the poor and needy,
to slay those whose ways are upright.
15 But their swords will pierce their own hearts,
and their bows will be broken.
16 Better the little that the righteous have
than the wealth of many wicked;
17 for the power of the wicked will be broken,
but the LORD upholds the righteous.

2 Chronicles 7:14 ~ If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and heal their land.

Friday, September 28th begins the nationwide 40 Days of Prayer for America ... may the Lord have mercy upon us and sweep away the evil that is upon this nation, in the Name of Jesus, Amen ...


22 posted on 09/27/2012 5:45:22 AM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His word ...)
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To: BrandtMichaels
No matter if Zer0 wins or loses, there WILL be riots in the streets all over America. Just look at what's happening in the Mideast and Europe. I pray this won't happen here but there IS a possibility. Protect yourself the best you can. Stay firm in your faith. Protect yourself by being prepared for violence of any kind. May the Lord be with us always in these next few months to come.
23 posted on 09/27/2012 5:50:07 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....)
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To: Evil Slayer

The polls are skewed because the libs anticipate a record election turnout for their boy. I believe it will happen .... record numbers of dead people and illegals will be voting.


24 posted on 09/27/2012 5:50:53 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: scbison

I am betting R2 will winn NC by 55%-45%: there are almost no bumper stickers and yard signs for oblabla. The dumbles are in almost complete dissarray and their gubinatorial candidate is behind double digits. Having Dumplins Purdue drop out of the race was supposed to make the state more competiive for oblahblah. It didn’t work that way because folks around here are totally p-oed with the poser cretin.

There are enclaves of oblahblah support among teachers, universities, of which we have many, and public sector taxpayer money trough dwellers. They will make a dent...its why I only predict 10 pts instead of near 20.

I damn sure hope I am right and we can wash away the shame of our state having gone for this absolute disaster in 08.


25 posted on 09/27/2012 5:53:50 AM PDT by Adder (No Mo BO)
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To: RexBeach

It must be very close in both VA & OH. That is where they both are spending the most time.


26 posted on 09/27/2012 5:54:50 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: SeekAndFind; LS; Perdogg; napscoordinator; God luvs America; Evil Slayer; Jet Jaguar

I am putting together a ping list called the POLL Ping.

I see your interest. You are the first. If you object, please let me know.


27 posted on 09/27/2012 6:01:32 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
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To: Evil Slayer
What's changed since the 2010 midterms? Right, nothing!

There's your model for this election.

28 posted on 09/27/2012 6:02:22 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.u)
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To: Evil Slayer
these media driven and heavily reported polls can also backfire and suppress the Obama vote.

It also gives people like me, who are not enthused about him, to vote for him. It's like a vote against the LSM.

29 posted on 09/27/2012 6:02:49 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: Evil Slayer
Barry Soetoro IS in big trouble and he knows it as he and his people are looking at these type of numbers
UnSkewed Polls
UnSkewed Polling Data, Thursday, September 27, 2012, 7:27:00 AM
UnSkewed Avg. 9/4 -- 9/20 -- Obama: 44.0; Romney: 51.8 = Romney +7.8

Obama's Approval - Disapproval numbers:
Approval: 44.1; Disapproval: 52.9 = Disapproval 8.8

This is why his campaign said a couple days ago that people should ignore the national polls. Even though all their lapdogs are issuing laughable poll results. Rassmussen was/is the only Poll that showed it close and Barry slightly ahead, based on likely voters, but was still 'slightly' weighted (skewed) in the RATS favor.

So the fact is these new Polls being pushed by the MSM saying Obama has it locked and Romney is done are 100% Bullsh out of whack. They're 'predicting' (lying) a higher Dem Voter turnout than in 2008. Which just happened to be the highest turnout in history.

But taking reality into account as UnSkewed Polls does, and things like Barry only drawing 5,000 to a Wis Rally (and the MSM reporting 18,000!! LOL!), and 200 showing up for Biden, they know Barry's goose is cooked. There ain't going to be any 'historic' Dem turnout, period.

I'm not saying Romney has it locked either, it's too early and things can happen but Barry's Admin is falling apart. The 9-11 Libyan Terrorist Attack lies are now out in the open, the entire ME is up in flames, and he looks like a dunce. Even some of his toadies in the MSM are rebelling during the daily WH pressers and actually asking tough questions.

The MSM is playing Baghdad Bob. Denying US Troops are in Baghdad while dodging bullets live on TV.

30 posted on 09/27/2012 6:05:15 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: SeekAndFind; LS; Perdogg; napscoordinator; God luvs America; Evil Slayer; nutmeg; SoFloFreeper; ...

I am putting together a ping list called the POLL Ping.

I see your interest. You are the first. If you object, please let me know.


31 posted on 09/27/2012 6:07:55 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
BTW, if anyone knows how to use a "sort by party" option for this site,

http://voterfind.tzo.org/warrenoh/pdf/A201211MIHN!LANNXXDR!CGLSNXX.pdf

It would be appreciated.

Also, NC Freepers, I have a question. If you go HERE: http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html

Am I reading this correctly that in ABSENTEE voting the Rs have a 16+ edge or does this refer to statewide registration advantage?

32 posted on 09/27/2012 6:08:16 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: RexBeach; Elendur

Well, he will be in PA tomorrow, what would that tell you?


33 posted on 09/27/2012 6:09:59 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Evil Slayer
Zer0 signing executive order declaring he won the election even though Romney won by a landslide the night before. Think this wouldn't happen? Don't underestimate the insanity and evil that is within the demon that occupies the WH.

I could see something like this election night. No concession speech, just Axelrod going on TV and saying "THEY" are looking into the results and making sure that blacks, gays, progressives were not disenfranchised. That it is Obama’s duty to make sure the election was fair. Days go by and nothing but MSM obfuscating as Obama like a Mad King is making preps to bunker down in the White House and hope an army of lawyers, the mobs of parasites and his die hard supporters can save him. Its not totally outrageous it may have to come to a warning from Congress and the military that Obama has to make haste and make plans to leave Presidency or he may have to be physically removed from the Oval Office. Think its that far off? We are not dealing with an emotionally stable individual here..

34 posted on 09/27/2012 6:12:54 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: Evil Slayer
My Theory on skewed polls: The Media wants to matter.

Polls will become more accurate after the media touted debates. Romney will win the debates; he had very good performances in the primary and Obama neither won nor loss against McCain. Then the media will publish accurate polls and write the story that the debates matter, blah, blah, blah. This makes the MSM more relevant because the debate are their creation. Let's face it, if the race is truly over by early September, the MSM would have to admit they don't matter. This way, they can report coverage and debates matter and so do they, the holy carriers of free press.

35 posted on 09/27/2012 6:13:16 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Yes, please add my name. Thanks.


36 posted on 09/27/2012 6:14:49 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: SharpRightTurn

Added.


37 posted on 09/27/2012 6:15:49 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
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To: SharpRightTurn

Added.


38 posted on 09/27/2012 6:16:03 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
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To: Perdogg

How about polls concerning GOP VS. Dem enthusiasm for turning out to vote?

Hmmm.

I’m going to vote at least once! :)


39 posted on 09/27/2012 6:16:29 AM PDT by RexBeach (Mr. Obama Loves To Spend My $$$$$$$$$$$$)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Could you add me as well? Thanks!


40 posted on 09/27/2012 6:16:48 AM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: Jet Jaguar

Please add me...thanks!!


41 posted on 09/27/2012 6:17:38 AM PDT by MasonGal
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To: RexBeach

I am in Colorado and there are lots of ads by both candidates. What I am not seeing are many bumper stickers, yard signs, etc. from either candidate. Seems kind of odd to me, past years they were everywhere.


42 posted on 09/27/2012 6:17:51 AM PDT by Pondo (The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.)
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To: DaveInDallas

Someone here said Obama was running ads in California.


I’ve seen a few on tv in Texas featuring Obama. I think they maybe in an effort to encourage the locals to support the democratic down ticket candidates although that isn’t stated in the ad.


43 posted on 09/27/2012 6:18:12 AM PDT by deport
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To: Pondo

Yup. I’m northern Virginia. Most of the Obama bumper stickers are leftovers from ‘08. I have seen TWO Romney stickers. But then, NOVA is now very, very liberal and chock full of federal employees.


44 posted on 09/27/2012 6:20:06 AM PDT by RexBeach (Mr. Obama Loves To Spend My $$$$$$$$$$$$)
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To: Evil Slayer

Its not the polls that we should be worried about but voter fraud, dead people voting and intimidation at the polling places. Polls are done to create a news cycle and are spun whatever way they want the results to look best for their candidate. The only poll worth looking at is on election day.


45 posted on 09/27/2012 6:20:22 AM PDT by kevinm13 (Tim Geithner is a tax cheat. Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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To: Evil Slayer
"...but what they really say about the Obama campaign may just surprise you?"

This wasn't a question. Why is there a question mark at the end?

46 posted on 09/27/2012 6:20:30 AM PDT by mlo
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To: Condor51

#30 good info. seems clear to me...
Obama is toast, and he knows it.


47 posted on 09/27/2012 6:34:56 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Evil Slayer; Texas resident
I've said the same thing many times. If Obozo simply declares that He Won, then what? I've seen absolutely nothing from "our side" to indicate that they'd stop him -- they've allowed him to get away with every illegality he's committed with barely a mumble. As for the media, I believe these polls will become their "proof" that He Won. And what of the vote tabulation??? As I understand, it's being done overseas. By whom? What measures is "our" side taking to keep it all legit?
48 posted on 09/27/2012 6:36:08 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: BrandtMichaels
..causing OWS types to riot.

I'm sure causing the OWS types to riot is the least of their concerns. Polsters who would intentionally try to manipulate an election to get obummer re-elected aren't the type, I would think, that would care what collateral damage their actions caused.

49 posted on 09/27/2012 6:57:28 AM PDT by WesternPacific (Deafness has its Advantages)
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To: Perdogg

baring massive vote fraud,
he’s wasting his time in PA also...
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since he knows he’ll lose,
and be going to his $35 million mansion,
perhaps he’s going to Ohio, Virginia,
and PA, just to help the Senate races there.
(he could go to MA and others, but in some,
he would actually hurt their candidate.)
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Trib Poll: Casey 46, Smith 41 (Pennsylvania Senate race tightens)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2936270/posts
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Ohio: Mandel Pulls Within One in Senate Race
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2936128/posts


50 posted on 09/27/2012 6:59:37 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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