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Who Was the Most Religious President of All Time? (They called him "The Deacon")
Slate ^ | 09/27/2012 | Forrest Wickman

Posted on 09/27/2012 5:28:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

If elected, Mitt Romney “would arguably be the most actively religious President in American history,” according to a profile in the latest New Yorker. Who’s been our most religious president?

Jimmy Carter, probably. It’s impossible to know the contents of a man’s heart, but historians who study the religious lives of the presidents point again and again to the words and deeds of James Earl Carter Jr. The Georgia Baptist set a new standard during his 1976 presidential campaign when he described himself as “born again,” and he was frank about his religious beliefs throughout his presidency.

While in office, Carter attended church wherever he went, even while on the road, and continued to teach Sunday school when at home. He prayed daily and read the Bible, and when he wasn’t reading the Bible he read theologians like Reinhold Niebuhr. Like Romney, he also knocked on doors as a missionary, addressing potential converts by saying, “I’m Jimmy Carter, a peanut farmer. Do you accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior?” Since his presidency he has continued his Christian mission on annual trips for Habitat for Humanity, and when he accepted the 2002 Nobel Peace Prize, he spoke of Jesus Christ as “the Prince of Peace.” His Secret Service codename was “The Deacon.”

Prior to Jimmy Carter, the most God-fearing U.S. president may have been James Garfield. Garfield is the only president who was actually a clergyman. At a young age Garfield became a minister for the Disciples of Christ, where he was lauded for his skill as a preacher, and he learned Greek—the original language of the New Testament. Though it was not his full-time job, he continued to preach and minister for years until his presidency.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jimmycarter; president; religious

1 posted on 09/27/2012 5:28:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

MEMORABLE JAMES GARFIELD QUOTE:

“I resign the highest office in the land to become President of the United States.”

(He went to his reward six months later courtesy of a religious zealot).

See here:

http://books.google.com/books?id=KLglkgCEEB4C&pg=PA155#v=onepage&q&f=false


2 posted on 09/27/2012 5:30:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind

He can go to church all he wants but his communist deeds and actions and support for dictatorships should earn him the code name “Grand Poobah of the A-hole and Traitor Club”.


3 posted on 09/27/2012 5:32:56 AM PDT by albie
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To: SeekAndFind

ONE OTHER NOTABLE RELIGIOUS PRESIDENT:

John Quincy Adams worshiped at three different churches (Unitarian, Presbyterian, and Episcopal) and would attend service even in heavy snow. He was also vice president of the American Bible Society and wrote religious poetry.

THE LEAST RELIGIOUS:

* James Monroe. Attended church infrequently

* Ulysses Grant seems to have refused to ever profess his faith, even when a bishop of his wife’s Methodist denomination pressed him on his deathbed.


4 posted on 09/27/2012 5:33:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind
Liberalism and true Christianity are incompatible. Abortion, gay marriage, etc..are the tenets of the liberals theology, so the ex-president is an apostate as well as being a miserable failure.
5 posted on 09/27/2012 5:36:27 AM PDT by loveitor.. ("I will leave with the greatest love for this country of ours..." Ronald Reagan)
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To: SeekAndFind
this bs about Carter shows me exactly why Christianity has suffered so greatly....

people who have to tell eveyone that they are "Christian", aren't....

the more some of these tv evangelists use the name "Jesus" in a sentence, the more I figure they are shallow shysters....

6 posted on 09/27/2012 5:39:41 AM PDT by cherry
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To: SeekAndFind

I believe the “highest office” he was referring to as leaving was an elder in his church.

I don’t doubt Carter’s sincerity as a Christian, but I don’t think he had anything on Garfield.


7 posted on 09/27/2012 5:51:13 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: loveitor..

I couldn’t agree with you more.I’m so tired of liberals invoke the words of Jesus to promote their Marxist redistribution agenda and paint conservatives as cruel and selfish. Meanwhile, they support abortion and deviate lifestyles. My response to them always is,”Ok, if the words of Jesus are the standard, what about John 14:6, where Jesus says “I am the way, the truth, and the life, and no one comes to the Father but by me.” That offends their political correctness and often shuts them up. I also encourage them to read l Thessalonians 3:10, which states that those who will not work should not eat.


8 posted on 09/27/2012 5:57:37 AM PDT by Freestate316 (Know what you believe and why you believe it.)
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To: cherry
people who have to tell everyone that they are "Christian", aren't....

Exactly.

The same thing applies to wartime military service, too.

The people who did the most, talk the least about it.

9 posted on 09/27/2012 5:59:24 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cousin Ike described himself as ‘the most religious person I know’. Religious roots from Mennonite sect. Ancestors were persecuted/imprisoned in Switzerland 17th century.


10 posted on 09/27/2012 6:00:13 AM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: SharpRightTurn
I don’t doubt Carter’s sincerity as a Christian,

I do. Retired secret service agents who saw the various presidents up close and personal said Carter was a huge pious fraud. Whereas Reagan was one of the most righteous when no one was looking.

11 posted on 09/27/2012 6:01:50 AM PDT by MrDem (Founder: Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: griswold3

RE: Cousin Ike described himself as ‘the most religious person I know’. Religious roots from Mennonite sect.

A Mennonite General who fought World War II, and one of the bloodiest invasions in history — NORMANDY !!

Who woulda thunk!


12 posted on 09/27/2012 6:03:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind

His mother, Ida, was staunchly religious.

The religion of Dwight D. Eisenhower, U.S. President
www.adherents.com/people/pe/Dwight_Eisenhower.html
Eisenhower’s family background was Mennonite (River Brethren), and he was raised in an intensely religious home environment.


13 posted on 09/27/2012 6:07:01 AM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: griswold3

If I remember correctly, Ike also read the entire bible every year.


14 posted on 09/27/2012 6:12:25 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: Abby4116

See Post #13 about President Eisenhowers’ religious affiliations.


15 posted on 09/27/2012 6:14:42 AM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, the light really shines in Carter’s nasty, bitter face. /s


16 posted on 09/27/2012 6:21:17 AM PDT by Montanabound
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To: albie

The Christian Jimmy Carter was a fraud.

He facilitated the overthrow of the Shah of Iran to usher in an Islamic Republic. Is that the move of a Christian?

When the Shah had cancer and needed a place to be treated, the self-professed Christian Carter, refused to allow him to enter the United States. Is that the move of a Christian?

North Korea has nuclear weapons today, because Jimmy Carter interceded on it’s behalf. Is that the act of a Christian?

The list is long of what this self-professed Christian did that was the farthest thing from what a Christian would do.

Carter’s moves made Iran look unstable. Saddam Hussein seeing it in that state attacked. Half a million Iranians, and half a million Iraqis died in that war.

Yep, good old Jimmy Carter is a real humanitarian.

Oh wait, he pounded 257 nails for Habitat for Humanity, and will never let us forget it. I stand corrected... Like hell I do.

It turns my stomach when I see this guy described in glowing terms on any level.


17 posted on 09/27/2012 6:34:36 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Imagine how bad these global protests would be, if Obama hadn't won us s o many new friends.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Calvin Coolidge gets my vote as the most religious American President.


18 posted on 09/27/2012 6:35:24 AM PDT by TheConservativeBanker
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To: SeekAndFind

Ike became a born again Christian and was baptized after being elected president.


19 posted on 09/27/2012 6:41:42 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Izzy Dunne

That is so true.My ex brother in law was Green Beret in Vietnam in 69. I know he saw heavy combat. In the thousands of hours I spent around him, I heard the word Vietnam come out of his mouth maybe twice. Contrast that to John Kerry, who mentioned Vietnam constantly, but was a traitor. I ran into an old man walking with a cane in the supermarket. He had on a WW ll veterans cap. I shook his hand and thanked him for his service. He didn’t say much, except that he had fought in the Pacific and was wounded. As he spoke his eyes filled with tears, and he said, “I fought like hell for this country because I love it!” I walked away wiping a few tears of my own.


20 posted on 09/27/2012 6:49:08 AM PDT by Freestate316 (Know what you believe and why you believe it.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

That is so true.My ex brother in law was Green Beret in Vietnam in 69. I know he saw heavy combat. In the thousands of hours I spent around him, I heard the word Vietnam come out of his mouth maybe twice. Contrast that to John Kerry, who mentioned Vietnam constantly, but was a traitor. I ran into an old man walking with a cane in the supermarket. He had on a WW ll veterans cap. I shook his hand and thanked him for his service. He didn’t say much, except that he had fought in the Pacific and was wounded. As he spoke his eyes filled with tears, and he said, “I fought like hell for this country because I love it!” I walked away wiping a few tears of my own.


21 posted on 09/27/2012 6:49:22 AM PDT by Freestate316 (Know what you believe and why you believe it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What about Barack Obama for most religious? He seems to spend one-third of his time worshiping his messiah (also one-third for golf and one-third for destroying our country).

22 posted on 09/27/2012 6:49:42 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: SeekAndFind
Who’s been our most religious president? Jimmy Carter, probably.

What a lie. What about Washington? A man who bent his knee in prayer for his country many a time? What about Lincoln?]

Grrr.

23 posted on 09/27/2012 6:51:02 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (My game is disruption. I will use lethal force --my vote-- in self-defense against Obama.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I wouldn't be too hard on James Monroe. He was privately quite religious and read the scriptures regularly. His wife had severe health issues which might have also discouraged church attendance. He went broke caring for her and would have died a penniless pauper had it not been for the generosity of friends who supported him in his old age.

I'm certain God will judge him far less harshly for missing church but exhibiting extraordinary human decency than he will Bill Clinton, who strutted around with a huge Bible as a stage prop but seldom, if ever, actually read what was inside.

25 posted on 09/27/2012 6:58:10 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Tzar
Just as a Captain in the Navy is the equivalent rank of a Colonel in the Army, a Bishop in the Mormon Church is the equivalent of a Priest in the Catholic Church-- basically in charge of a single congregation only.

One of the key reasons Mormons have more money relative to other denominations of similar size is that nobody gets paid. As one consequence, there are no career Bishops.

26 posted on 09/27/2012 7:05:44 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Jimmy Carter and the Empty Suitcase?


27 posted on 09/27/2012 7:13:48 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: SeekAndFind
He was assassinated by a person, who claimed that God spoke to him, that a speech he gave got Garfield elected, that he was close friends with Garfield (though they had never met) and that Garfield had reneged in appointing him to some Federal post. He was more of a delusional psychotic than a religious zealot.
28 posted on 09/27/2012 7:26:23 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Damn! Did you nail it or what?

My father told me so very little about his World War II service when he was alive. Whatever information I got from him, I had to extract, generally when we were alone together on a long drive or canoe trip into the wilderness, or fishing trip in the mountains with my brothers. I've subsequently found out that he was one of the first to volunteer for the Naval Air Corps and may have ended up fighting (and dying) at those early battles like Midway if he hadn't been transferred against his wishes to shipboard duty, where he was promoted to an officer.

As it was, he saw action in the Philippines, Iwo Jima and Okinawa and was among the first units assigned to occupy Japan after the war ended.

30 posted on 09/27/2012 7:44:11 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman
My father told me so very little about his World War II service when he was alive.

My father never mentioned it. I found out after he died that he parachuted into France on D-Day.

My uncle earned a Bronze Star at Anzio in 1944 (I think). I didn't know about it until I did genealogical research this last year (he died in 1982). Some relative had the award letter.

Those who have done, need not talk.

The noise about Christianity is attempting to get human acceptance. Which is antithetical to the whole point, isn't it?

31 posted on 09/27/2012 8:17:33 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Presidents George Washington and/or Abraham Lincoln!
32 posted on 09/27/2012 8:22:56 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: 2001convSVT

McKinley


33 posted on 09/27/2012 9:00:54 AM PDT by cantbetooconservative (I miss Ronald Reagan)
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To: Vigilanteman; Tzar
Just as a Captain in the Navy is the equivalent rank of a Colonel in the Army, a Bishop in the Mormon Church is the equivalent of a Priest in the Catholic Church-- basically in charge of a single congregation only.

What an incredibly dishonest post, and a deliberate attempt to deceive.

Romney and his father were both Bishops, but the reason that we call Romney "Bishop" Romney is that he rose to the equivalent of a Roman Catholic Bishop, not merely Priest.

Mitt Became a Stake President, he was in charge of all the Bishops of his region, and had powers of excommunication.

34 posted on 09/27/2012 10:37:59 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Tzar

There is even more to Bishop Romney, not only is he a Priest, was a Bishop, and then a Stake President, he first received permission from his Holy Prophet, to run for president, in a secretive meeting in 2005.

Some think that Mitt has already received his ‘second anointing’, and is guaranteed to become a God himself, according to his religion. Some Mormons believe that Bishop Romney is the fulfillment of the “White Horse Prophecy”.

Mitt lives, knowing that he will some day be worshiped as God, and will rule over his own planet as our God rules over us.


35 posted on 09/27/2012 10:45:44 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Izzy Dunne
Those who have done, need not talk.

I have mixed feelings aout this. We celebrate their service on Memorial Day, but what are we supposed to remember if they don't tell their story? Sure, we will always remember their service, their laying down of their lives for their country; but it's not as impactful as knowing what they went through for our freedom.

36 posted on 09/27/2012 11:51:21 AM PDT by celmak
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To: SeekAndFind

Being religious and having a personal relationship with God are two different things.


37 posted on 09/27/2012 11:54:00 AM PDT by Faith
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To: Tzar

While that post wins you the creepiest post of the year award, it also shows that your own posts are meaningless, even to you.

You were only pretending to be interested in knowing the facts of Mitt’s religious offices held.


39 posted on 09/27/2012 2:59:55 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: SeekAndFind
(He went to his reward six months later courtesy of a religious zealot).

Sounds more like his assassin was a delusional psychotic. He may have been religious or a drinker of milk, but the qualities that led him to kill the president appear to be neither of those.

an assassin, Charles J. Guiteau, an apparently delusional if not wholly psychotic Federal office-seeker who had believed himself to be on close terms with Garfield even though he and Garfield had never spoken to each other. Guiteau also believed himself assured of a Federal appointment as the United States consul in Paris – a position for which he had no qualifications. Guiteau believed as well that a short speech he had partially presented before a small group of people during the presidential election campaign was in fact the cause of Garfield's election to the presidency and which, therefore, justified his appointment. ...Guiteau also believed he would be acquitted of any crime and be elected President after the trial.[

40 posted on 09/27/2012 3:09:48 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: Tzar
Thanks, but just a little advice about idiots. I don't even read their posts anymore, much less respond to them. I learned never to argue with idiots either. They will eventually drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
42 posted on 09/27/2012 6:57:30 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Tzar

Then you need to learn the facts, Mitt was indeed a Stake President, in charge of the Bishops of his Stake, which is like the Catholic diocese.

Stake Presidents have duties which includes excommunication.

Wiki—”A stake disciplinary council is convened by the stake president in instances where it appears that a holder of the Melchizedek priesthood has committed an offence which may result in excommunication or when the subject is a member of a bishop’s immediate family. In such instances, the council is composed of the stake president, his two counselors, and the twelve members of the stake high council. After hearing the evidence in the case and the submissions of the high councilors—one half of whom speak on behalf of the accused—the stake president and his counselors are encouraged to make a joint unanimous decision on the outcome. **However, the stake president has the final say and can theoretically make a decision over the protest of either or both of his counselors**.”

It is also a fact that Mitt sought and received the meeting with his Holy Prophet to gain his permission to run, this was reported in Mormon sources (Sunstone Magazine, November 2005).

It is also a fact that Mitt Romney’s religion teaches him that he will become a God himself, if he conducts himself properly in regards to Mormon law, in Mormonism there are an unlimited number of Gods.

HERE IS THE CATHOLIC TEACHING ON MORMONISM:

“Mormons are not Christians. The Mormons will claim to be Christian because they claim to follow Christ, and believe in the Bible. They say that Jesus is a god, but not THE God. They also believe that Lucifer is the brother of Jesus, and neither do they believe that there is fire in Hell.”

“Mormons say that Christ came to teach the truth, but that it was lost when the Apostles dispersed. No one had the truth for over 1800 years until God saw fit to enlighten Joseph Smith in 1823 (that is why they baptize all the dead people who missed out). Besides their strange historical mis-accounts, Mormons also have a warped theology.”

“By following all the rules and ordinances of God here, Mormon men and women have the potential of also becoming gods”

“Mormons believe that there are many worlds and many gods. Each god is similar to God the Father, having the same powers and omnipotence, and even being able to create their own worlds. “Heavenly Father” is only the name of the god who rules over this world.”

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/protestantism/mormns.html

Trust the Catholic truth on Mormonism, or trust what the Mormons are telling you.


43 posted on 09/27/2012 7:06:29 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: cherry
...the more some of these tv evangelists use the name "Jesus" in a sentence, the more I figure they are shallow shysters...

I attended a service once where the pastor used the word "Father" more than sixty times in the prayer service. I dang near got up and walked out. I guess the guy didn't have much faith.

There ought to be a feeling of security when addressing the Father of us all.

44 posted on 09/27/2012 7:12:12 PM PDT by stboz
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