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30-year-old man angry with God held in 'rampage' on Buffalo churches
MPLS Star & Sickle ^ | 9-27-12 | PAUL WALSH and TOM MEERSMAN ,

Posted on 09/27/2012 8:13:05 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

Six churches in Buffalo were the target of a rock-throwing rampage and inflammatory messages about homosexuality regarding religion and sexual orientation. Police have arrested a 30-year-old man who said he hurled rocks and left offensive messages about homosexuality at several churches in one west metro community due to "his anger with God." Police in Buffalo say doors and windows were broken with rocks between noon and 3 p.m. Monday at four church buildings -- St. Francis Xavier Catholic Church, Seventh-day Adventist, Hosanna Lutheran (Missouri Synod) and Buffalo United Methodist. Posters with inflammatory messages dealing with religion and sexual orientation were left starting Saturday night at two of those churches -- St. Francis and Hosanna Lutheran -- and two others, Zion Lutheran (ELCA) and Buffalo Presbyterian, said Chief Mitchell P. Weinzetl.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: churches; gay; mn; vandalism
What a dummy. Looks like the list he hit were all supporters of gay clergy and gay marriage,too.
1 posted on 09/27/2012 8:13:09 AM PDT by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

Homosexuality was categorized as a mental disease until the 1970s.


2 posted on 09/27/2012 8:15:52 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TurboZamboni

Apparently this guy was anti-homo.


3 posted on 09/27/2012 8:17:50 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: TurboZamboni; Salvation

You’re the one that’s uninformed....

The Catholic Church does NOT support a gay clergy.....


4 posted on 09/27/2012 8:17:50 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: nevergore

This guy was true ecumenical.


5 posted on 09/27/2012 8:22:31 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (ZERO DARK THIRTY (coming soon to an embassy near you))
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To: TurboZamboni

By “all”, you mean “none”.


6 posted on 09/27/2012 8:22:53 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: AppyPappy

Sorry.

I see “rainbow flags” outside many of them (ELCA and Methodist churches) here in the Twin Cities.


7 posted on 09/27/2012 8:25:21 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni

This guy gets caught after an intense investigation, and yet, the homo-anarchists who vandalized and terrorized a Portland Church are still at large and probably won’t face any consequences.

When did we become this insane?


8 posted on 09/27/2012 8:29:24 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: TurboZamboni

“Buffalo United Methodist”

Yeah, talk about friendly fire.


9 posted on 09/27/2012 8:33:10 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: nevergore

“The Catholic Church does NOT support a gay clergy.....”

Well, not officially at least.


10 posted on 09/27/2012 8:33:49 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: TurboZamboni
"I see “rainbow flags” outside many of them (ELCA and Methodist churches) here in the Twin Cities."

The Luthern Church listed was Missouri Synod, not ELCA, and they are orthodox with regard to homosexuality.

11 posted on 09/27/2012 8:34:37 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: TurboZamboni

Homosexuality is a mental disorder


12 posted on 09/27/2012 8:39:08 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: circlecity

Correct. Missouri Synod is not ELCA.


13 posted on 09/27/2012 8:44:07 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni

I’m tired of my church getting lumped in with the pro-homosexual denomination, just because both have “Lutheran” in their name. The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod (LCMS) strongly opposes any form of gay marriage and gay clergy, and stands fast against the homosexual agenda while the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) has given in and recently voted to officially recognize and promote gay clergy and gay marriage.

That being said, we are all sinners and as Christians we have an obligation to pray for and witness the good news of salvation in Jesus Christ to this angry man rather than lashing out in anger. “But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you” Matthew 5:44


14 posted on 09/27/2012 8:46:15 AM PDT by egarvue
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To: GeronL

Every gay person I have known has suffered from some sort of personality disorder.


15 posted on 09/27/2012 8:48:22 AM PDT by henkster (With Carter, the embassy staff was still alive.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Whoops, bad timing makes it look like I’m accusing you. I was composing my response when you posted your latest. My apologies.


16 posted on 09/27/2012 8:50:08 AM PDT by egarvue
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To: TurboZamboni
"Correct. Missouri Synod is not ELCA."

I know it's correct, that's why I said it. And that's why your observation about rainbow flags outside ELCA churches was totally irrelvant.

17 posted on 09/27/2012 8:51:12 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: TurboZamboni
Don't assume this guy was anti-gay. Two clues as to his 'orientation':

1. The messages are hidden. : Weinzetl declined to give specific examples of what the messages contained, other than to characterize them as "inflammatory" and add that "the word gay is mentioned, and there are other terms mentioned that would be derogatory to people of a homosexual nature. ... And it probably doesn't take a genius to figure out what those words may be."

If they were clearly anti-gay, the media wouldn't 'decline to give specific examples'.

2. Also mentioned in the article,

Jarvis said he found a poster taped to the church door with "very vile language describing Jesus as a homosexual."

Does that sound anti-gay to you?

Conclusion: This is the work of a member of the oh, so tolerant, Pink Mafia.

18 posted on 09/27/2012 8:54:46 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: henkster
Every gay person I have known has suffered from some sort of personality disorder.

People that are gay, obviously have mental health issues to start with, and then go from there. Someone attracted to the same sex, cannot also be normal. They can only try to act like it.
19 posted on 09/27/2012 8:55:32 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: Boogieman; Salvation
Not in any form....unofficial nor official.....

Why don't you join your brethren who pasted the slurs and threw the rocks....

You took a news article about someone bashing churches and joined them philosophically...

20 posted on 09/27/2012 8:56:38 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: sportutegrl

Your conclusion is correct based on what local TV media said last night (they were walking on eggshells)


21 posted on 09/27/2012 9:05:15 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: egarvue
I apologize for lumping them in. It was done due to haste.

(Our church is independent Lutheran and definitely not associated with the ELCA)

22 posted on 09/27/2012 9:10:13 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: nevergore

“Not in any form....unofficial nor official.....”

Sure, sure. There is no clique of homosexuals in the Catholic clergy that supports and covers for each other. Keep telling yourself that.

“You took a news article about someone bashing churches and joined them philosophically..”

Nonsense. There’s no comparison to vandalism and saying something unflattering about people or an organization. The fact that you would draw such a comparison is really just an attempt to enforce political correctness to stifle viewpoints that you don’t want to hear.


23 posted on 09/27/2012 9:12:19 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: circlecity

“The Luthern Church listed was Missouri Synod, not ELCA”

Actually, there are two listed, one Missouri Synod, and one ELCA.


24 posted on 09/27/2012 9:14:58 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: circlecity

I’m seeing some Missouri synod churches ( WA state ) getting a little weak over this subject. They loudly proclaim gays are welcome to the church but very quietly say marriage is between a man and a woman.

I agree gays need to go to church as much as anyone else but lets not soften the truth either.

I do agree with what our pastor says that we often view people as” your sins are worst then my sins”, but we also need to stand for the truth with boldness.


25 posted on 09/27/2012 10:23:50 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: sportutegrl; Sherman Logan

“... a poster taped to the church door with “very vile language describing Jesus as a homosexual.”
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thanks for clarifying! i was confused.
...even the headline was misleading.


26 posted on 09/27/2012 11:17:08 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Boogieman
Trying to obfuscate your original statement of:
"Looks like the list he hit were all supporters of gay clergy and gay marriage,too."

There are 2 Billion Catholics, and a large clergy that serves them. To state that there are not any bad actors in the clergy would be false. They are weeded out and the Vatican has taken an active role to ensure this happens.

Equally as false is your statement that the Catholic Church supports or condones gay clergy or gay marriage. It doesn't.

Nonsense to your assertion that there is no comparative stature to your statements regarding bashing the churches verbally (again without substance) and the guy who vandalized the churches. Apparently you agree with his statements, you're just unwilling to act them out.

Political correctness is what you espouse, bashing the church is the vogue among liberal circles. Bash the church, but do it without fact; just feelings, conjecture and malice.

You and Bill Maher, joined at the hip.....

27 posted on 09/27/2012 12:15:38 PM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: nevergore

“Trying to obfuscate your original statement of:
“Looks like the list he hit were all supporters of gay clergy and gay marriage,too.””

Nope. Can’t obfuscate a statement that you never made.

“To state that there are not any bad actors in the clergy would be false. They are weeded out and the Vatican has taken an active role to ensure this happens.”

Well, I’ll grant you that they at least seem to be making some effort at that now that Benedict is in there, but before that, your statement would have had me rolling on the floor laughing for about twenty minutes. I’ll give them credit for taking steps in the right direction lately.

“Nonsense to your assertion that there is no comparative stature to your statements regarding bashing the churches verbally (again without substance) and the guy who vandalized the churches. Apparently you agree with his statements, you’re just unwilling to act them out.”

It’s not nonsense. There is no comparison. Most people learn that stick and stones are not the same as words when they are children, we even have a little rhyme about it. Besides which, I don’t agree with his statements one bit, and any objections I have to any of these churches would be pretty much diametrically the opposite of the ones that he has, so this assertion of yours is patently ridiculous.

“Political correctness is what you espouse, bashing the church is the vogue among liberal circles.”

I guess you don’t understand what “political correctness” means, in the context I was using it. It’s got nothing to do with what is in vogue with liberals, it has to do with trying to suppress a point of view that you don’t want to debate by saying it is somehow unacceptable to hold that opinion, and ostracizing anyone who holds it. Conservatives as well as liberals do that, although liberals have made a veritable artform of it.


28 posted on 09/27/2012 1:03:44 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: dragonblustar

“I do agree with what our pastor says that we often view people as” your sins are worst then my sins”, but we also need to stand for the truth with boldness.”

True, none of us is any more pure than the homo that may plop down in the pew next to us. However, I don’t see any signs outside churches saying “Alcoholics are welcome!” or “We are proud to welcome adulterers”. We rightfully take the attitude that they are welcome, but they should approach God’s house with at least some measure of penitence, rather than the shameless attitude that homos usually adopt.


29 posted on 09/27/2012 1:14:46 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

now news is emphasizing he indicated “no political affiliation”...just like the FRC shooter in DC, right?


30 posted on 09/27/2012 2:59:51 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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