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Eligibility challenge arises in Electoral College
World Net Daily ^ | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 09/27/2012 8:28:03 AM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

A challenge to Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president is forming within the Electoral College process, WND has confirmed.

James Grinols, one of 10 presidential electors chosen by the Republican Party of Minnesota, is asking GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney and vice presidential candidate Rep. Paul Ryan to provide Grinols’ legal counsel, Mario Apuzzo, with their “paper, full form official certificate of birth with raised seal from the place of your birth.”

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Grinols’ goal is to establish a standard in the Electoral College that each candidate for the presidency and vice presidency present to duly nominated electors of their parties an official long-form birth certificate to demonstrate that the candidates are qualified as natural born citizens, according to Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; eligibility; obama
Here is a novel approach to highlighting Obama's non-eligibility.
1 posted on 09/27/2012 8:28:09 AM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

Novel is right.


2 posted on 09/27/2012 8:31:00 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

Standing? He’s not an elector unless his slate gets elected in November.


3 posted on 09/27/2012 8:31:42 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed
This is exactly what SHOULD have happened to begin with!

It's the electoral college that has the final determination as to whether or not a candidate meets the qualifications for office, and the reason individual people have no 'standing' in the courts to challenge the outcome.

4 posted on 09/27/2012 8:31:52 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as Created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

How is it novel? These are documents that an overwhelming majority of people can provide upon request. Is it novel in the approach to validate the nominee?


5 posted on 09/27/2012 8:32:45 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Genoa

If Romney wins Minnesota, then Obama will be lucky to win about eight other states.


6 posted on 09/27/2012 8:38:28 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

Prepare for incoming naysayers


7 posted on 09/27/2012 8:45:07 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: rarestia

It is novel in that this is the first time that we have seen this activity coming from an elector.

Most electors do not realize that, for a short time, they become an independent fourth branch of government - one that was purposely designed to keep elected officials from forming closed clubs that shut out voters. Usually an elector just assumes that his role is ceremonial and does nothing but cast a vote for his party’s candidate.

Grinols is showing that the electors have teeth and his approach is designed to show other electors how to use them.

In my opinion, that is novel.


8 posted on 09/27/2012 8:45:47 AM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

Illegal, unjustified, chep political move, Birther nonsense and none of this matters anyway because just being an Elector doesn’t give a person “Standing”.


9 posted on 09/27/2012 8:46:08 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

For over 200 years The Electoral College has been merely ceremonial, but I can’t help but believe that The Founding Fathers had more in mind. I sincerely believe it is the responsibility of The Electoral College to ensure that the candidates meet the qualifications set forth in The Constitution.


10 posted on 09/27/2012 8:50:42 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO GTFO!)
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To: Vigilanteman

Yup, MN is a back breaker for Republicans ~ so this is the right place for an elector to challenge Obama on the credentials.


11 posted on 09/27/2012 8:52:34 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: InterceptPoint

Hmm ~ an elector is the one who casts the ballot, so he’s got a right to be sure it’s for the right person. Seems to me every elector has “standing” ~ and there’s nothing anybody else can do about it.


12 posted on 09/27/2012 8:54:10 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: The Sons of Liberty
There is no Electoral College in reality, but there are the Electors. Theirs are not ceremonial votes ~ this is a constitutional office much as President, Representative, Speaker of the House, Senator and Vice President are.

We don't have many such offices, but by golly that's what these are.

Unless otherwise directed in the Constitution these guys don't even have to recognize the Judiciary or the Executive branches of government in exercising their office.

13 posted on 09/27/2012 8:56:51 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MamaTexan

it’s the states that control who is on the ballot

yet they aren’t even requiring proof of US citizenship.

the states are committing election fraud if they aren’t checking


14 posted on 09/27/2012 8:57:35 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: InterceptPoint; TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed
Exactly how is adhering to the Constitution

"Illegal, unjustified, chep [sic] political move, Birther nonsense and none of this matters anyway"...

???

15 posted on 09/27/2012 9:01:34 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: TXnMA; muawiyah

Sorry, I forgot my sarcasm tag. I was channeling the NYT just for laughs. Of course an elector has standing by definition.


16 posted on 09/27/2012 9:08:26 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: muawiyah

If the treatment of convention delegates by both parties is any indication, they’ll just ignore anything they don’t wamt to hear.

Time is shorter than we think.


17 posted on 09/27/2012 9:09:07 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed
Good luck with that - we all know how it worked in early Jan 2009 - couldn't even get ONE objection.

I have to agree that this is the venue where such challenge has to take place if Secretaries of States will not challenge when the illegal alien is placed on the ballots
18 posted on 09/27/2012 9:10:02 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: muawiyah

With only few exceptions, where an elector voted for someone other than who he was pledged to, they have been no more than rubber stamps. I pray it doesn’t have to come to that, but there are far too many people who question Baraq 0bama’s aka Barry Soetoro’s eligibility. Heck, there is not even definitive proof he is even a citizen! The affects a lot of things, among them his standing as Commander in Chief. Since the congress, SCOTUS, various State Secretaries of State have failed to do their duty, I would really like to see The Electoral College examine the candidates before voting. This is one thing I fault Dick Cheney on when he presided.


19 posted on 09/27/2012 9:11:01 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO GTFO!)
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To: InterceptPoint

Thanks! I was hoping that someone who has been active on FR for a couple of months longer than I have could not really be so far off the rails....


20 posted on 09/27/2012 9:12:19 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: InterceptPoint

Well thank you, Nancy, for your inputs.


21 posted on 09/27/2012 9:19:47 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: InterceptPoint; All

i’ll accept Obama was born in Hawaii.
but, he IS hiding something.
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Why was the BROTHER of Virginia Sunahara,
refused a copy of his dead sister’s BC ?
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WHY?
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and you speak of illegal...
how about a CT SSN for someone from Hawaii?
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or the ONLY Selective Service form in the database,
that has a TWO digit date stamp instead of FOUR?
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major crimes have been committed.
and, a candidate for public office,
should be PROUD to show his long form BC.
(which Obama has NEVER done. Why?
other US Presidents have, like Eisenhower.)


22 posted on 09/27/2012 9:23:33 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Elendur

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2856546/posts

BREAKING! SUNAHARA V. HDOH DISMISSED

” What other motivation could a state have for denying someone a photocopy of his deceased sister’s original birth certificate? “


23 posted on 09/27/2012 9:31:29 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

One size fits all.


24 posted on 09/27/2012 9:49:52 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (yup-Who knew??)
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To: Elendur

A state who wants to cover up wrongdoing.


25 posted on 09/27/2012 9:51:44 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

I wonder how they are going to handle Willard’s father George being born in Mexico...


26 posted on 09/27/2012 10:01:30 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: sten
it’s the states that control who is on the ballot

True, but the States are the first determiners

The electoral college is the last.

27 posted on 09/27/2012 10:20:51 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as Created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: InterceptPoint
Illegal, unjustified, chep political move, Birther nonsense and none of this matters anyway because just being an Elector doesn’t give a person “Standing”.

It is my opinion that every citizen has "Standing" when it comes to insuring their governing document is abided by, but our court system has saw fit to create a new Aristocracy where the peasant class has no say regarding who shall govern them. I take it you are okay with this development?

28 posted on 09/27/2012 10:23:40 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Tennessee Nana
I wonder how they are going to handle Willard’s father George being born in Mexico...

They are going to ignore it because it is completely irrelevant.

29 posted on 09/27/2012 10:28:22 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: InterceptPoint

>> “Sorry, I forgot my sarcasm tag. I was channeling the NYT just for laughs.” <<

Tag shouldn’t be needed, thus my tagline.


30 posted on 09/27/2012 10:34:10 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DiogenesLamp

See post 16 for clarification


31 posted on 09/27/2012 10:35:29 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Where a candidate’s parents are born is not the issue in determining Natural Born Citizen status. It is whether they are citizens at the time of a candidate’s birth that matters.


32 posted on 09/27/2012 10:36:53 AM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

Read: The 5000 Year Leap! American Heritage and the Constitution - example >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

“Presidents Washington and Jefferson saw the need for maintaining the government in the Balanced Center where the Constitution had placed it.

With both the Eagles Wings flying - one solving problems, the other preserving resources and freedoms - the American future could not help but to ascend to unprecedented heights of wealth and influence.”


33 posted on 09/27/2012 11:17:27 AM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

Dream, dream, dream.

This will do about as much good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m24uUzJgfwQ


34 posted on 09/27/2012 11:26:16 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Cheerio

It only takes 1 and the candidates must provide the documentation.


35 posted on 09/27/2012 11:35:10 AM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

ditto, very good.


36 posted on 09/27/2012 11:43:19 AM PDT by annieokie (O)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

Anything that raises the issue is fine with me. But nothing will come of this as it relates to obama. No one will force him to produce anything.


37 posted on 09/27/2012 11:43:56 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: editor-surveyor
See post 16 for clarification

I saw it after I had already posted my comment. Thanks for pointing it out though.

38 posted on 09/27/2012 12:25:55 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I agree, we all have standing - except with a corrupt judiciary.


39 posted on 09/27/2012 1:25:24 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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