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Ex-QB Jim McMahon talks of early-stage dementia
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Posted on 09/27/2012 9:31:16 AM PDT by nuconvert

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...when he meets people, "I'm asking two minutes later, 'Who was that?'

"When my friends call and leave me a message ... I'll read it and delete it before I respond and then I forget who called and left me a message," he added

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: football; jimmcmahon
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Heck, I do that, and I never played football.
1 posted on 09/27/2012 9:31:19 AM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

McMahon was as much an entertainer as a player on the field. Wonder what he thinks (if he still can) about all the headbutts he would exchange with his offensive line after a touchdown or a big play.


2 posted on 09/27/2012 9:35:44 AM PDT by lesko
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To: nuconvert

Me too - maybe we should be worried ;)


3 posted on 09/27/2012 9:37:28 AM PDT by MissH
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To: nuconvert

McMahon was very susceptible to concussions in his last years. He could not take much of a hit.


4 posted on 09/27/2012 9:37:38 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: nuconvert

I hate it when that happens.


5 posted on 09/27/2012 9:38:12 AM PDT by RitchieAprile (my French needs no pardoning..)
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To: nuconvert

I am 50 years old. Last night I was watching TV and during the commercial I could not remember what show I was watching. I have never played contact sports. It’s what happens when you age. Also, has anyone connected these problems with the lifestyle these guys have? Steroids? Supplements? Muscle builders? Pain killers? Drug habits?


6 posted on 09/27/2012 9:41:50 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: nuconvert

I am 50 years old. Last night I was watching TV and during the commercial I could not remember what show I was watching. I have never played contact sports. It’s what happens when you age. Also, has anyone connected these problems with the lifestyle these guys have? Steroids? Supplements? Muscle builders? Pain killers? Drug habits?


7 posted on 09/27/2012 9:42:03 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: nuconvert
I know that Rush rails about football being emasculated by the "head injury" crowd but science is science.Never having attended medical school I know nothing about neurology,neurosurgery of neuropathology (the medical specialty that analyzes the human brain under a microscope).However,if,someday,these "brain scientists" decide that football,hockey,boxing or other sports/activities cause brain damage down the road we need to pay attention.

One case in point...Cassius Clay.

8 posted on 09/27/2012 9:42:34 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive!)
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To: nuconvert

Me too. I mostly attribute it to my self involvement and lack of attention paying but maybe it’s something else altogether. (:


9 posted on 09/27/2012 9:42:57 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: nuconvert

neurosurgery of neuropathology = neurosurgery or neuropathology


10 posted on 09/27/2012 9:44:22 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive!)
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To: nuconvert

Only stands to reason that if you get your bell rung - a lot - that there will be consequences both short term and long term. We didn’t know that many years ago but we know it now. I think that the “Science is Settled” to quote the AGW crowd :)


11 posted on 09/27/2012 9:44:56 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: nuconvert

Not accusing McMahon, but how many of these players with dementia type problems also used alcohol and drugs after they left the NFL? Forgetfulness is one of the effects of alcoholism.


12 posted on 09/27/2012 9:47:08 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: riri

Mrs. VanShuyten thinks I have a problem because she doesn’t think I remember everything she says. She fails to realize that oftentimes I just don’t hang on her every word— a policy that has allowed me to avoid many a disagreement.


13 posted on 09/27/2012 9:53:10 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: nuconvert

So shut up, Joe, and be thankful that the worst problem you have is a cranky prostate...


14 posted on 09/27/2012 9:56:52 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: VanShuyten
She fails to realize that oftentimes I just don’t hang on her every word

Heh, mine thinks I need a hearing aid :-)

15 posted on 09/27/2012 10:06:43 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: VanShuyten

I blame my addiction to technology too. Half the time I am reading something on a screen while listening. Half way.


16 posted on 09/27/2012 10:07:36 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: nuconvert

I feeeeel sorry for all of them afletes,,,
/sarc


17 posted on 09/27/2012 10:10:01 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: nuconvert

Article states he lead Bears to Super Bowl win in ‘86!
Didnt happen. Giants won in 1986.
Lazy journalist!


18 posted on 09/27/2012 10:16:57 AM PDT by Boxsford (God Is.)
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To: nuconvert

I wonder if his claim of memory problems is related to his current money problems?


19 posted on 09/27/2012 10:17:12 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: marstegreg

Mine causes me to double post. Do you ever find that to be the case?


20 posted on 09/27/2012 10:18:42 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Biden: "HOPE and CHAINS for all 57 states".)
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To: Boxsford

Technically speaking, the ‘85 Bears were crowned in January 1986.


21 posted on 09/27/2012 10:21:42 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa (Vote for Goode, end up with evil, pat self on back repeatedly)
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To: BipolarBob

LOL


22 posted on 09/27/2012 10:22:39 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: nuconvert

My wife calls it my “sometimers”.


23 posted on 09/27/2012 10:23:21 AM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: nuconvert

I was going to post something...but then forgot what it was..
FREEGARDS
LEX!


24 posted on 09/27/2012 10:23:23 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: txrefugee

I still remember the very first drink I ever had way back as a teenager.

It was Heineken Bock Beer and we were on a school outing.


25 posted on 09/27/2012 10:26:02 AM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as effective as those who enforce it.)
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To: nuconvert

A lot of you are writing off his forgetfulness or making light of it.

My dad was like this two years ago, and now he is fully unable to participate in life any more except to be watched like a child and see people and eat. My dad the vibrant person is gone. Alzheimer’s can go very fast; he has significantly declined this summer alone.

They say that over half of 85 year olds have it. So take this poor guy seriously. And hope that he can get it under control so that his decline is slower than my dad’s.


26 posted on 09/27/2012 10:26:59 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: marstegreg

Double post in a memory loss thread - LOL


27 posted on 09/27/2012 10:29:21 AM PDT by JTHomes (A lot of injustice is done under the cover of law.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
One case in point...Cassius Clay.

Physical screening & licensing in boxing were a joke. Ali should have been forcibly retired due to mental impairment, but nobody seemingly had the power or the will to do it. The fighter usually won't do it on his own.

28 posted on 09/27/2012 10:33:43 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“However,if,someday,these “brain scientists” decide that football,hockey,boxing or other sports/activities cause brain damage down the road we need to pay attention.”

What do you mean by “pay attention”? Cause to me it would logically follow that paying attention would be followed by some sort of action like changing the rules of these sports beyond recognition or putting them out of business, the latter of which is what may happen if these plaintiffs win that lawsuit against the NFL.

I’m not much of a sports fan, but I also don’t want to see them put out of business because of these lawsuits. Let’s remember — no one held a gun to the head of any of these athletes, they chose to play these sports knowing full well they would have to take some big hits to the head. I just don’t see how they can claim today that they didn’t understand the risks involved. Maybe I’m missing something...


29 posted on 09/27/2012 10:35:21 AM PDT by lquist1
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To: marstegreg
You're 50 years old and you can't remember what you posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:41:50 PM .

< /snarc>

30 posted on 09/27/2012 10:37:10 AM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: lquist1

No,I’m not suggesting look backs that result in lawsuits.Assuming that research done by respected brain scientists shows a connection between having played football,hockey,etc and unusual brain deodorization later in life (which,given my 20 years of experience in healthcare,I suspect will be the case),then an argument can be made for using great caution in kids’ sports and “informed consent” when playing college or professional sports as adults.Would such a policy change football or hockey? Probably.


31 posted on 09/27/2012 10:45:28 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive!)
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To: Yaelle
A lot of you are writing off his forgetfulness or making light of it.,

Yes, I suppose we are. That's what we do about a lot of things we can't change. Like death or disease. I'm not going to pity the guy, what good would that do him? When I'm on my deathbed and in pain, I hope I have the courage to laugh and remember the good times. I'm a prime candidate for Alzheimers by the way. I hate the disease but I will not let it define me nor my loved ones. I certainly don't wish it on anybody and I hope JMcMahon finds a cure but forgetting is the norm for the elderly.

32 posted on 09/27/2012 10:48:11 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Biden: "HOPE and CHAINS for all 57 states".)
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To: Turbo Pig; VanShuyten
"She fails to realize that oftentimes I just don’t hang on her every word Heh, mine thinks I need a hearing aid :-)"

When I accuse Mr. hummingbird of not listening to me, he says he is and gives a general topic.

He just hangs on a word or two to make me THINK he is listening. If I ask him to go more in detail, he can't. Arghhhhh......

33 posted on 09/27/2012 11:00:34 AM PDT by hummingbird (Pray without ceasing. Pray for peace.)
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To: Yaelle
"My dad the vibrant person is gone."

I'm so sorry, Yaelle. My Dad is 80 and I see some problems with him. It IS like the "vibrant person is gone".

My Mother, also 80, has similar symptoms.

When I am alone with either of them, they tell me how bad the other is doing. I cry when I get home.

Bless you and your Dad and the rest of your family.

It is tough.

34 posted on 09/27/2012 11:07:23 AM PDT by hummingbird (Pray without ceasing. Pray for peace.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

unusual brain deodorization

LOL!


35 posted on 09/27/2012 11:09:01 AM PDT by Scarlet Pimpernel (And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?)
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"Yes, I suppose we are. That's what we do about a lot of things we can't change. Like death or disease."

"a lot of things we can't change."

I suppose it is like black humor. We can't do anything about the situation. I cry and lean on Mr. hummingbird's shoulder for comfort and seek solace with my faith.

Its tough, nonetheless. BUMP.

36 posted on 09/27/2012 11:15:31 AM PDT by hummingbird (Pray without ceasing. Pray for peace.)
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To: BipolarBob

“I’m a prime candidate for Alzheimers by the way. “

Start fighting it now. Playing computer games like Call of Duty, Battlefield 2, Medal of Honor help. It puts your mind into overdrive, fight-or-flight mode.
Television is the worst because you are a spectator. With computer games, you have to interact, participate, figure out what to do, etc.
Reading books is also more interactive than television.


37 posted on 09/27/2012 11:17:08 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: marstegreg

Sometimes I forget I posted something once already ............ :)


38 posted on 09/27/2012 11:18:59 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: hummingbird

It took ten years for this awful disease to kill my mother. The only great President in my lifetime correctly called it “the long goodbye”.

I wish more time and money could be spent to find a cure or a means of prevention. If Alzheimer’s had the funds available that AIDS has received (a completely preventable disease, BTW) there could well be a cure by now.


39 posted on 09/27/2012 11:26:18 AM PDT by beelzepug ("Blind obedience to arbitrary rules is a sign of mental illness")
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To: RitchieAprile

When what happens?

Wait...what...?


40 posted on 09/27/2012 11:31:45 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: nuconvert
When I turned 50 I just learned how to augment my memory with the features of my smart phone.

Now I've got better memory than any 20 year old! :)

In fact, my phone just reminded me that tonight is the first showing of "Last Resort". :)

41 posted on 09/27/2012 11:35:54 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: Red Steel

I would think that playing certain positions would make a player more prone to suffering a brain injury. The linemen and running backs have a lot more contact during a game then a QB. I would like to see the cases broken down by position.


42 posted on 09/27/2012 11:40:46 AM PDT by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: beelzepug
"It took ten years for this awful disease to kill my mother. The only great President in my lifetime correctly called it “the long goodbye”.

Reagan's speech re: Alzheimer's was so sad - such a wonderful and vibrant person.

I'm so sorry about your Mother.

43 posted on 09/27/2012 11:41:06 AM PDT by hummingbird (Pray without ceasing. Pray for peace.)
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To: RitchieAprile
I hate it when that happens.

So do I.......wait a minute.......when what happens?

44 posted on 09/27/2012 11:44:48 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: nuconvert
"When my friends call and leave me a message ...

Jim has friends? Who knew? lolbnr

45 posted on 09/27/2012 11:46:41 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Yaelle

I don’t think anyone would make light, if he had described symptoms that were different from what most people suffer in their 50’s.

I’m sorry to hear about the rapid decline of your Dad. My mother-in-law has Alzheimer’s so I know how awful it can be.


46 posted on 09/27/2012 12:01:09 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Are you wondering if he’s trying to drum up sympathy?


47 posted on 09/27/2012 12:06:50 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Scarlet Pimpernel
unusual brain deodorization LOL!

Yikes! (clears throat)....well,that too! ;-)

48 posted on 09/27/2012 12:13:48 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive!)
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To: woodbutcher1963; Erasmus; JTHomes; BipolarBob

I did it in fun. Good job catching it! :o)


49 posted on 09/27/2012 12:19:45 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: nuconvert

We joke about it because actually facing the possible loss of memory is so very frightening. But, most people who suffer dementia, including early onset, have never played football. It seems to strike without any common cause, and has no respect for title/position/education much less race, color or creed. It’s a hideous disease and so painful for the patient and his/her family.


50 posted on 09/27/2012 7:18:09 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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