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Skewed polls indicate Obama's in trouble - not Romney
American Thinker ^ | 09-27-2012 | Keith Edwards

Posted on 09/27/2012 6:05:41 PM PDT by GilGil

Naturally, if you support Obama and are treated every day to wall-to-wall news headlines showing Obama so far ahead of Romney in the polls that the election is basically over, then you're less likely to go out of your way to vote in November. So there's a really fine line between turning out your voters and turning off your voters when using polling data like this.

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First I do not believe Obama is ahead. I think he is currently losing by 5-10 points. Secondly, I have been wondering about this projected over confidence by the MSM. If Obama is going to win by such huge margins, there really is no reason for democrats to turn out at all. Afer all it is now in the bag. The MSM is making democrats think Obama is winning 90 O and 10 R. I think the democrats are building their own defeat and we will see a huge wipe out in a month with a new President Romeny.
1 posted on 09/27/2012 6:05:43 PM PDT by GilGil
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2 posted on 09/27/2012 6:12:27 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: GilGil

Romney will Win! Its all propaganda from the media favoring Obama. The Mega Bankers have already picked Romney to be the next President.


3 posted on 09/27/2012 6:12:50 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: GilGil

Then the question is — why is the media so much in the tank for Obama? Why are pollsters doctoring the poll results, to make it seem that Obama is more popular than he really is????


4 posted on 09/27/2012 6:13:33 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: GilGil

I want to believe that... I really, really do.


5 posted on 09/27/2012 6:16:14 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Record high turnout is our hope for sending 0bama home. Pray hard!!!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Because news people would rather be TOLD WHAT TO SAY BY THE REGIME than ACTUALLY DO SOME WORK AND INVESTIGATE STORIES. It’s so much easier reading from the White House’s script than to investigate, write, then read what you’ve written!


6 posted on 09/27/2012 6:16:35 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: GilGil; WVNan
"...if you support Obama and are treated every day to wall-to-wall news headlines showing Obama so far ahead of Romney in the polls that the election is basically over, then you're less likely to go out of your way to vote in November."

Funny how that dynamic works, ain't it? Add to that, the fact that a great many of Obama's core constituents are already too demoralized and hurting to get off the couch, and they're cutting their own throats with these fantasy polls.

7 posted on 09/27/2012 6:19:08 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The other factor is that liberals are REALLY REALLY AFRAID to be even remotely perceived as ‘racist’ so they coddle their little black man gently and do whatever he tells them to do so as to avoid being called that dirty little ‘R’ word.


8 posted on 09/27/2012 6:19:53 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Dilbert San Diego
EASY answer! When Romney wins, then all of the usual suspects will come out to riot, spin, throw tantrums, and try to de-legitimize the victory. After all, the POLLS said Obama was going to win.

I love the characterization "wall-to wall". Reminds me of Brad Pitt in "Kalifornia". "Don't go into that bathroom! It's just a wall to-wall STINK!"

9 posted on 09/27/2012 6:21:50 PM PDT by boop (It's not personal...it's strictly business)
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To: GilGil

Hope everyone is right on this subject, but it seems like whistling past the graveyard to me. What worries me most is the eye test and my eye test tells me that for every Romney bumper sticker I see 4-5 Obummer stickers. Scientific? No, of course not.

But it scares me seeing that in Alabama, as conservative as a state can get. It tells me that whatever conservative support Romney is getting it is very lukewarm.


10 posted on 09/27/2012 6:24:05 PM PDT by Condor 63
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To: GilGil

Heard a black caller on Hannity today that cited Obama being ahead in “almost every” poll and was bragging about O being re-elected based off that information.

Telling you right now the Obamabots are in for a severe sticker shock to the point where there is going to be rioting and violence after this thing is over. The false narrative that Obama has this thing wrapped up is just going to be fuel on the fire after his commie ass is thrown out of the White House.


11 posted on 09/27/2012 6:24:13 PM PDT by NoobRep
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Then the question is — why is the media so much in the tank for Obama?”
_________________________________________

As I have posted numerous times.
The Marxist knew that the key to taking America was in
taking control of Education and the Media.
Education has become a Marxist indoctrination tool in K thru Grad School.
They have also corrupted all forms of main stream media, print and broadcast, starting from the days of Walter Cronkite.
They also control most newspapers.


12 posted on 09/27/2012 6:26:31 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Then the question is — why is the media so much in the tank for Obama? Why are pollsters doctoring the poll results, to make it seem that Obama is more popular than he really is????

Simple. The pollsters are liberals and the media are liberals. Don't believe either of them.

13 posted on 09/27/2012 6:30:09 PM PDT by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I hope you understand that Obama & Co. want to collapse the economy so as to seize power. The MSM and the pollsters are part of the democrat machine and are assuming they will be at the trough gorging on the spoils of the victors. It is no more difficult than that. That is why the MSM and the pollsters are lying so much. Have you noticed how Gallup is now so pro Obama? With the Justice Department suing Gallup all of the sudden Gallup is falling into place. The point to walk away with is that Romney is ahead and the MSM is desperate to affect that result.


14 posted on 09/27/2012 6:30:40 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: GilGil

Just because the poll results are skewed doesn’t mean Romney is ahead. He needs to get people excited.


15 posted on 09/27/2012 6:31:08 PM PDT by gotribe (WTF?)
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To: Condor 63

Then again have you ever considered that your perception could be totally wrong?


16 posted on 09/27/2012 6:32:56 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: AlexW

“The Marxist knew that the key to taking America was in
taking control of Education and the Media.
Education has become a Marxist indoctrination tool in K thru Grad School.
They have also corrupted all forms of main stream media, print and broadcast, starting from the days of Walter Cronkite.
They also control most newspapers.”

You forgot the Supreme Court. Between the Courts, the Media and Education, we are at the mercy of an UNELECTED group of liberals. 39 days.


17 posted on 09/27/2012 6:34:13 PM PDT by adc
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To: gotribe

Then stay home and don’t vote. You are right it is hopeless. You guys would not know how to recognize victory if it bit you in the crotch.


18 posted on 09/27/2012 6:35:53 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: GilGil

I tend to base it on the LOBS theory.

Lack
Of
Bumper
Stickers

I see NO Obama bumpers stickers, or signs, even in the almost exclusively democratic neighborhoods I work in. I think voter apathy is going to hit both sides, but the deceit of the demolibs with be revealed in the next few weeks.

Can’t wait till the debates...


19 posted on 09/27/2012 6:37:20 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: Molon Labbie

I agree. I live in Phoenix and there are zero Obama bumper stickers anywhere.


20 posted on 09/27/2012 6:38:42 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: Condor 63

I’m not sure, but I think early on Romney decided yard signs and bumper stickers weren’t too important. I see almost none for either candidate. Plus, both Obama and Romney charge for stickers and signs.


21 posted on 09/27/2012 6:40:40 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: NoobRep

People don’t riot when it’s cold out. Summer, yes; winter, no.


22 posted on 09/27/2012 6:42:14 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Read The Amateur. Says a lot. Kindle has it for 9 bucks, well worth it.


23 posted on 09/27/2012 6:42:14 PM PDT by juma (What i s the real answer ? Does anyone Know ?)
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To: GilGil

Skewed polls, sure, no question. What will you say though if after all these skewed polls Obama still wins? Honest question, what will you say?


24 posted on 09/27/2012 6:46:11 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: gotribe
Just because the poll results are skewed doesn’t mean Romney is ahead. He needs to get people excited.

AGREE!!!!!

A lot of people right now just simply do not like Mitt Romney. Many of them have already written him off completely.

Not sure how he turns that around at this point with just over a month left, but if he is to have a chance at winning, he needs to make it happen.

25 posted on 09/27/2012 6:46:31 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: Condor 63

How many bumper stickers did you see for the recent “Chick-fil-A Day”? None. But the lines of fed-up supporters wrapped around the buildings.

The real people who make America work, including MILLIONS of Christians who never even voted in 2008, will be out in droves to vote AGAINST Zero on November 6th. The lines of P.O’d Americans waiting in line to vote on that day will be Chick-fil-A Day to the third power!


26 posted on 09/27/2012 6:47:15 PM PDT by Tucker39 (O)
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To: Molon Labbie

I’m in Alabama and I haven’t seen one Obama bumper sticker. Not that it matters - Alabama will be red.


27 posted on 09/27/2012 6:48:01 PM PDT by imemyself
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The media and the pollsters are like herd animals on the Serengeti, if they leave the pack they might be eaten. Also think of safety in numbers, birds of a feather or a high school clique with all the ‘cool’ kids.


28 posted on 09/27/2012 6:50:00 PM PDT by JPG (Make it happen)
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To: GilGil

Aw fu. I didn’t say I’m staying home. Ya dumbchit.


29 posted on 09/27/2012 6:50:16 PM PDT by gotribe (WTF?)
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To: GilGil
I think the democrats are building their own defeat and we will see a huge wipe out in a month with a new President Romeny.

Who's Romeny? Is he on the ballot?

30 posted on 09/27/2012 6:51:11 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: GilGil; TigersEye; Marine_Uncle
It's about the Money....he needs money....

The Funders only Fund if they are convinced Obama is winning/1

31 posted on 09/27/2012 6:52:21 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: gotribe

Typical. If you are whistling by the graveyard no need to bother. Stay home. We can win this in a landslide without you.


32 posted on 09/27/2012 6:54:09 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: Condor 63

Don’t worry. Here in Moonbat Massachusetts, Obama stickers are non-existent, but were everywhere in ‘08. I did a poll here a week ago, and the phenomenon is national.

Yes, we are not enthusiastic about Romney, but we WILL crawl over broken glass to vote for him. Look at 2010, Wisconsin and Chick-fil-a.

The turnout models in these polls assume a Dem turnout three times greater than ‘08, when R +4 is reasonable. That’s a 14 point discrepancy.


33 posted on 09/27/2012 6:54:57 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Condor 63
Foxnews lsat night had Morris give a great explanation and rove also....

Do you thing the Democrats will have greater turnout than they did in 2008?

That is what some of the loftier poll numbers for Obama are using according to both Morris and karl Rove.

34 posted on 09/27/2012 6:56:43 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: OrangeHoof

Yes! He is Ron Paul’s mini me


35 posted on 09/27/2012 6:56:56 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: NoobRep

But what people who want riots—people like Frances Piven—are failing to accept is that nobody is fired up about Obama.

His loss will go down like the fizzle in a lukewarm cola.


36 posted on 09/27/2012 6:58:14 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Well put.


37 posted on 09/27/2012 6:58:22 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Same in Phoenix. There were O stickers all over my neighborhood. Not one to be found now.


38 posted on 09/27/2012 7:00:02 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: GilGil; Marine_Uncle; TigersEye; SunkenCiv
Related thread:

The Five False Assumptions Behind Poll-Skewing

39 posted on 09/27/2012 7:02:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: GilGil

Everyone is reporting this. Dem turnout will be WAY down. I also suspect that many will quietly pull the lever for Romney.

After the election, when they find out they were not alone, they’ll speak out.


40 posted on 09/27/2012 7:08:44 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The MSM is like the propaganda machine in IRAQ during the last month of Saddam Hussein’s reign. I remember listening to the Interior Minister tell us that the Republican Guard were successfully repelling the American troops and on a split screen the American troops were walking into Baghdad.

The MSM is selling a paper tiger being torn to shreds during what is in essence Obama’s last month as president. Remember last week how we were told the killing of the ambassador to Libya was not a terrorist plot? Then a week later the MSM reported it was a terrorist plot. The point is that they can only lie and the alternative press was powerful enough to make them fess up. The same goes with these polls.

President Romney will be our next challenge to make him do what he promised. That will be the real challenge.


41 posted on 09/27/2012 7:10:16 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

What may depress the turnout even more is this over confidence. Remember when Scott Brown won his senate seat? His opponent Martha Coakley was so confident that she would inherit Kennedy’s seat that she did not even campaign. She was sooooooo confident. I strongly suspect the democrats are so over confident that the rank and file idiots will start partying and won’t bother voting just like Martha Cokley.


42 posted on 09/27/2012 7:14:27 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: lwoodham

why does Rasmussen have it close? that’s what keeps comin’ back in my head.


43 posted on 09/27/2012 7:20:12 PM PDT by stickywillie (stanley ann went black, & never came back)
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To: GilGil
Whether or not Obama is ahead or behind, Fur Shur both parties are in full tilt in VIrginia looking for every vote in what is probably the tightest race on the planet in 50 years.

Today Romney actually came around my neighborhood looking for my vote. He even went to the Legion post down the road ~ and that is less than 2 blocs from Garfield School where I vote!

Obama didn't get that close yet but he did go into furthest Woodbridge to an outdoor stadium and actually drew a crowd. This is within a half mile of the Salvadoran legation!

They're big time around here yo!

So my vision of both these guys trying to importune me as I walk into the poll at Garfield school may well come true ~ think of it as a nightmare ~ that a FReeper has the key and critical vote and whichever way he casts it that guy is going to win.

It's coming!@

44 posted on 09/27/2012 7:22:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: GilGil

Wish I could be this confident. I think Romney still has a lot of work to do.

Thoughtful commentary about how he might do it is here:

http://www.realitybatslast.com/2012/09/27/how-romney-can-win-with-a-mandate/#comments


45 posted on 09/27/2012 7:26:00 PM PDT by Alex Baker (Still hopeful)
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To: GilGil

I live in Kansas City, and I don’t see many 0bama or Romney bumper stickers or yard signs. probably see more 0bama yard signs in nice neighborhoods than anywhere, but not many even there. went through the ghetto recently, and there were few 0bama yard signs. seiu has to pay ‘em $11 an hour to get them fired up in protests. So, I don’t think many are excited about 0bama or Romney, but there’s a lot more dislike for 0bama than Romney....visceral dislike, @ that.


46 posted on 09/27/2012 7:26:18 PM PDT by stickywillie (stanley ann went black, & never came back)
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To: GilGil

I don’t get TV reception where I live so I never watch TV. But yesterday I was waiting in line at the IRS office and there was a TV monitor on with no sound. I saw Romney talking for the first time. He didn’t look good. I didn’t know what he was saying but his face said to me he is weak and has no confidence. And for some stupid reason he was wearing a striped shirt with no tie. That is just dumb.


47 posted on 09/27/2012 7:26:21 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: stickywillie

He expects lower turnout than what Obama had in 2008.


48 posted on 09/27/2012 7:28:42 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: mwl8787

this year, folks will walk through riots on election day, to vote against 0bama.


49 posted on 09/27/2012 7:28:47 PM PDT by stickywillie (stanley ann went black, & never came back)
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To: gotribe
Republicans are very excited about voting in Nov.

We just know there is no reason to make a lot of noise about it.

50 posted on 09/27/2012 7:28:50 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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