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Security Fears Hobble Inquiry of Libya Attack
New York Times ^ | Sept. 27, 2012 | By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK, ERIC SCHMITT and MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT

Posted on 09/27/2012 11:02:19 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

BENGHAZI, Libya — Sixteen days after the death of four Americans in an attack on a United States diplomatic mission here, fears about the near-total lack of security have kept F.B.I. agents from visiting the scene of the killings and forced them to try to piece together the complicated crime from Tripoli, more than 400 miles away.

Investigators are so worried about the tenuous security, people involved in the investigation say, that they have been unwilling to risk taking some potential Libyan witnesses into the American Embassy in Tripoli. Instead, the investigators have resorted to the awkward solution of questioning some witnesses in cars outside the embassy, which is operating under emergency staffing and was evacuated of even more diplomats on Thursday because of a heightened security alert.

“It’s a cavalcade of obstacles right now,” said a senior American law enforcement official who is receiving regular updates on the Benghazi investigation and who described the crime scene, which has been trampled on, looted and burned, as so badly “degraded” that even once F.B.I. agents do eventually gain access “it’ll be very difficult to see what evidence can be attributed to the bad guys. . ."

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: contemptcharge; coverup; fastandfurious; fbi; holder; libya; lies; shadowwars; threatmatrix
Before the era of ethnic sensitivity we would call a mess like this a Chinese Fire Drill.
1 posted on 09/27/2012 11:02:24 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

This is why terrorism should never be handled by the criminal justice system. It should be handled as what it is, a war on terrorism.

There is no such thing as a “security concern” that would prevent the marines from doing whatever had to be done


2 posted on 09/27/2012 11:10:41 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
WTF is the FBI doing "investigating" an act of war?

Don't tell me that Ødumbo is going back to treating terrorism as a mere criminal matter...

3 posted on 09/27/2012 11:12:00 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

So, it was okay for Christopher Stevens to be there on 9/11 but not the FBI now?


4 posted on 09/27/2012 11:18:26 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“Security Fears Hobble Inquiry of Libya Attack”

So, on September 11th, 2001, they got it all wrong by stating from the beginning that it was a “Terrorist” attack.

I mean, there had to have been greater “security” fears then than now....don’t ya think?

A tome will be produced, dissected, debated....all for the sake of putting time between an official announcement and the terrorist attack.

One can only loathe this present administration and the emasculation of Federal agencies, all to appease the pagan fertility ethos of the Great Whore and Islam, her army.

Alas Babylon...your time is short....and she knows it.


5 posted on 09/27/2012 11:25:31 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Brad from Tennessee; no-to-illegals; FARS

Libya ping


6 posted on 09/27/2012 11:36:13 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: TXnMA
WTF is the FBI doing "investigating" an act of war?

Well... The Embassy is American Soil. So the FBI would be investigating that. However, the building Stevens was being escorted to was a safe house. IIRC, the AQ Swat Team hit his vehicle and a second escorting vehicle, killed him, then took his body to the safe house. After tearing it up, other sympathetic locals 'found' the body in the safe house and took it on a parade through the streets (I mean, to the hospital). The 'swat' team disappeared into the night, having destroyed any info that would compromise the flow of money and arms. The trail was nipped in the blood, and the coordinated staging of protests across the Middle East and Europe was a planned cover.

This is my opinion based on a fairly thorough reading of the tons of articles, the videos, the statements from here, and the statements from over there, and threads here on FR, and merged all the bits and pieces that 'fit'. (which may not mean squat)

Is it the 'truth'? Doesn't matter, the proof is gone. For now. This particular group isn't the only one that have or are being supplied with 'support' by our 'government'.

7 posted on 09/27/2012 11:37:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Oh, NOW they’re concerned about security.


8 posted on 09/27/2012 11:39:20 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

‘Security’ being 0bama Code for CYA.


9 posted on 09/27/2012 11:40:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Brad from Tennessee

By the time they think it is safe enough...screw the F.B.I, just call in and archaeologist. I would suggest Leakey if he were still alive.

All of our gov’t looks SO incompetent in this mess!


10 posted on 09/27/2012 11:42:54 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

In other words, sloppy Admin jeopardizes reputation of intelligence agencies.


11 posted on 09/27/2012 11:52:29 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Irenic

Is the F.B.I. able to investigate anything anymore? Their forté seems to be finding some crazy stooge to take a play-pretend bomb and then TA-DA! we saved America from a terrorist attack!

The Secret Service lets party crashers into a WH State dinner, leaves a gun on Romney plane, hires prostitutes, pee on grassy knolls during campaign speeches, get the Presidents car stuck on a dip in the road, posting on Facebook about ogling Palin, getting drunk, running over grandma and killing her. GAH!


12 posted on 09/27/2012 11:57:49 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: UCANSEE2

So you think Stevens didn’t die of smoke inhalation in the safe house but instead was killed on the way there?


13 posted on 09/28/2012 12:00:19 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Disclaimer:
( Under the fair use act of using not so satire, satire and fair use of the 1st Amendment right of Free Speech )


Headline News : Obama Administration Deleted State Dept Memo in the continuing cover up in the LibyaGate scandal and the FBI have security fears of the Hobbled Inquiry of the Libya Attack







40 years later



August 9, 1974

MISS ME NOW ???

14 posted on 09/28/2012 12:08:00 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

CNN has been through the crime scene how many times ... time for the shills at the FBI to talk to CNN


15 posted on 09/28/2012 12:26:15 AM PDT by Fred (http://thebubblefilm.com/)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

CNN has been through the crime scene how many times ... time for the shills at the FBI to talk to CNN


16 posted on 09/28/2012 12:26:22 AM PDT by Fred (http://thebubblefilm.com/)
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To: Fred

Maybe if everyone starts pointing out how stupid and incompetent the F.B.I, C.I.A., S.S. look, they will start talking to save face.

They need to do something because the world can see this and they look like ninnies! The F.B.I. is fearful of the little Al-Qaeda that is all but gone since Osama...or not.

America looks so French, the liberals should be thrilled!


17 posted on 09/28/2012 12:38:15 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

This is obviously a cover-up NOT an investigation.


18 posted on 09/28/2012 2:05:55 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Irenic
"All of our gov’t looks SO incompetent in this mess!"

That's assuming there was ever a real intent to investigate this assassination and not just a means to deflect inquiries by claiming their was an ongoing investigation and the Obamaites couldn't talk about specifics.

19 posted on 09/28/2012 2:09:41 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Brad from Tennessee

It would suck to be those agents.


20 posted on 09/28/2012 2:55:40 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Slow walking til after the election—as long as the FBI is “investigating” including even the time taken to get to the scene—Obama can decline answering questions about the obvious lies and cover-up AND the fully impeachable offense of dereliction of duty in the face of the enemy...

...when Obama is reelected he will immediately make certain he has the power to stay in office no matter what he does.

21 posted on 09/28/2012 3:03:32 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Mitt who? I'm voting for Ryan.")
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To: Brad from Tennessee

So just watch the video, if you can’t visit the scene. “Complicated”. That’s the latest excuse.


22 posted on 09/28/2012 3:06:48 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

“All of our gov’t looks SO incompetent in this mess!”.....

It has nothing to do with “looks”, they ARE incompenent,
the whole damn bunch needs cleansing, purging and replaceing.

The incompetence is nothing new. As administrations change from one president to another, the “agencies” remain pretty much untouched. Perhaps term limits for the agencies would be a place to start as well, change the personnel every so often. Might be a big improvement.


23 posted on 09/28/2012 3:16:34 AM PDT by Progov
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To: Irenic

this is an ole Clinton trick. His admin was using the fbi all the time Sudan


24 posted on 09/28/2012 3:16:34 AM PDT by Fred (http://thebubblefilm.com/)
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To: Progov

Eliminate an agency, create a new one that does the same thing, but don’t hire back anyone. Just fresh squirrels out of col...never mind.


25 posted on 09/28/2012 3:23:51 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Happy Rain
when Obama is reelected he will immediately make certain he has the power to stay in office no matter what he does.

Remember this one...

Qaddafi spoke after President Barack Obama's first speech to the General Assembly. Referencing Obama as "my son," Qaddafi said: "We are happy that a young African Kenyan was voted for and made president. Obama is a glimpse in the dark for the next four years, but I'm afraid we may go back to square one. "Can the U.S. guarantee after Obama that they'll be a government? We're happy and content if he can stay forever."

26 posted on 09/28/2012 3:54:45 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Partisan Media Shills try to cover for Zero.

Thanks Brad from Tennessee.


27 posted on 09/28/2012 4:05:27 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: TXnMA

I would guess the FBI puts Holder in charge!


28 posted on 09/28/2012 5:20:35 AM PDT by not2worry ( NO MORE YEARS!!!!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“fears about the near-total lack of security have kept F.B.I. agents from visiting the scene of the killings...”

The FBI is lost. It was completely infiltrated by leftists back in the 1990s and is now a tool for the Marxists in Washington. The last time our state investigators had the displeasure of working with these 30 IQ morons was during an eco-fascist terrorist attack at a university. The FBI clown insisted the attempted bombing was the work of radical right wing militias, despite the fact that the terrorist deposited various missives around the university claiming responsibility.

Don’t trust these FBI clowns, don’t believe them and never talk to them. BTW, the eco-terrorist was eventually caught, he was a hard core left-wing anarchist and he’s serving time in prison today. He was caught by a fantastic FBI agent in Oregon who worked with our local peace officers. He retired in the 1990s. We lost many of our patriotic FBI people during the Clinton era.


29 posted on 09/28/2012 5:52:56 AM PDT by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: gleeaikin; Brad from Tennessee
Thanks for the ping, gleeaikin. Am actually surprised the report did not include a line or two blaming the video for this obamanation, though must confess did not read entire report. It would not surprise me if there is a line or two regarding the video in the report. As all know, following the assassination, an opportunity was lost. Am betting hilery, obama, and probably panetta decided not to kill the assassins when the opportunity presented itself, and have heard and read numerous reports continuing to blame the video for every problem in the middle east. Never, in my life, have I seen such foolery.
30 posted on 09/28/2012 7:19:21 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee; All
"Security Fears Hobble Inquiry of Libya Attack"


31 posted on 09/28/2012 7:21:54 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: TXnMA
Obama using (Contempt of Congress) Holder and his FBI.

Holder is great at burying information and stringing congress along. Plus it contains the info to Obama's insiders.

32 posted on 09/28/2012 11:37:13 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: no-to-illegals

I saw a news report last night where the maker of the film was being arrested for fraud and illegal use of the internet based on a conviction several years ago. Now he is charged with two crimes including violating the court order to stay off the internet.


33 posted on 09/28/2012 11:15:38 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

Many people could soon receive that order of stay off the Internet ... and btw, I wish I was kidding. Our government fears the truth, and fears the People.


34 posted on 09/29/2012 5:43:05 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Security fears eh?

That’s not what I’m hearin’.....

http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-obama-sweet-spot.html

May be NSFW!


35 posted on 09/29/2012 5:49:49 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Declaring it to be a legal matter requiring an FBI investigation is the problem. The CIA/DIA should be charged with the task.

CSI type investigation is unnecessary except to salve the legal minds. Acting is required. Dithering is counterproductive. The FBI is dithering, untrained dithering.

The solution is simple...... Put the lawyers in a basement closet, declare the attack to be Al Qaeda and then proceed to kill Al Qaeda


36 posted on 09/29/2012 5:56:04 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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