Skip to comments.Blasphemy or democracy? Egypt cleric tears up, burns New Testament at US Embassy
Posted on 09/28/2012 7:21:34 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
Updated at 3:49 a.m. ET: CAIRO An ultra-conservative Islamist cleric in Egypt faces charges of blasphemy after he allegedly tore up and burned copies of the New Testament at a protest in front of the American Embassy in Cairo.
Ahmed Mohammed Mahmoud Abdallah, also known as Sheikh Abu Islam, is part owner of a private ultra-conservative Islamic TV station known as Al Uma and was participating in demonstrations against a U.S.-made movie denigrating the Prophet Muhammad that swept the Muslim world in the last month.
Egypts General Prosecutor accused Abu Islam and his son, the channel's executive director, of insulting religion in this case Christianity.
The case is a rare example of the countrys often-criticized blasphemy laws being used against someone who allegedly insulted a religion that is not Islam. That trial is scheduled to begin September 30.
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Our God is not a book. Burn all you want and let God be the judge.
Free speech requires us to have thick skins. Any religion that can’t handle dissent or debate is a hate cult.
Now I’m going to riot and find out where the Egyptian Embassy is in this town so that I can attack it with mortars and RPGs.
Or I can go on to the next thread after saying “What a jerk”.
forgive him Lord, he knows not what he is doing
Angry Christians around the world swarm into the streets, destroying all in their path in 3, 2, 1...
If they hadn't protested this film, it would have been viewed by maybe a hundred people. World wide.
Now that they have made it an issue, it has been played umpteen million times. World wide.
If this movie is insulting to your prophet, and your prophet is so dang sensitive to insults, then why, why, why did you cause him to be insulted umpteen million MORE TIMES ?
Matt 5:18 “For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.”
You wanna go riot, or you wanna go bowling? I'm thinking I'll skip this riot.
The Son of God is the Word of God.
Except for perhaps Universalism, every religion blasphemes the others.
For example, a Christian or Jew would not say or recognize the “Prophet” Mohammed - blasphemy to Islam.
A muslim would not say Christ is Lord - blasphemy to Christianity.
You can’t have freedom of religion and anti-blasphemy laws at the same time.
Yes, and that’s exactly why we don’t have to be worried by what they do to a book or even a symbol. It’s a sign of disrespect, certainly, but Jesus was well aware of what kind of treatment he and his followers would receive in the world, and he never ordered us to go out and kill others over it.
On the other hand, the Muslims know, deep down inside, that their “prophet” and their “god” are both false, and that’s why they feel that it is necessary to use violence to defend their fragility; nothing based on lies is ever strong.
Waiting for a spontaneous protest of RPG carrying Christians at the Egyptian embassy in 3.2.1.....(sarc)
The Son of God is the Son of God.
And he's already won the battle this cleric is attempting to wage, the poor fool.
“Burn all you want and let God be the judge.”
Indeed. I think God would probably rather have this loon burning Bibles than hurting people, because it seems like he is intent on destroying something one way or another.
They’re using the word ‘conservative’ with them to try to equate us with crazy people like them.
Don’t fall for it.
Remember “words mean things?” They’re all about guilt by association.
Gee can we Christians have him arrested like the “movie maker” was?
Get a hair cut and get a real job.
Their profet must be weak if he needs these waste products to do his? work.
Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.
For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
And they wonder why we snigger. Sounds like something from Saturday Night Live.
Guy suggested building an Islamic doomsday machine. This would be a printer generating pages of the Koran that are fed directly into an incinerator. Put a web cam on the doomsday machine.
In a couple of weeks ever radical muslim head will explode. Problem solved.
It’s only paper and ink , I wonder if bought it or did he steal it
We can print them faster than you can burn them, Bucko.
Why should anyone in the West be burdened with judging the actions of this kook as anything other than the actions of a kook? Every Muslim living is a blasphemy against the True God, reason, and liberty. Democracy has nothing to do with Islam. Here’s a question: What makes Muslims so ignorant they think silliness, like burning a New Testament, means anything to enlightened Christians who know how to print more of them? Even symbol enamored Christians are not so detached from reason that they confuse the person of Christ with things that represent him, including scripture. Jesus came to free us, not to enslave us in ignorance. Leave the ignorance up to Mohammad, his petty god, and the kooks who buy into symbolic oppression.
the nerve of that guy. He’d better not burn Atlas Shrugged. Then all of us libertarians will have to riot.
If anyone has access to Debka - they are running a story that Stevens knew his killers because he ran them as double agents.
For this reason, Muslims go berserk if someone disrespect (the physical) Quran. Christians wouldn't be happy if someone disrespect the Bible, but not at the same level as Muslims do.
however, this is interesting as a test of Blasphemy laws. If in Egypt one is blaspheming by burning the Bible, then it should be very, very insteresting
The only way I would get upset over this destruction of ink on paper is if the book he destroyed was a hand lettered on real parchment maybe 1400 years old and cost huge amounts of money to make.
I’ve seen modern bibles wore out from use thrown in the trash and new ones bought with no rioting.
If he really wanted to make a statement, try destroying an original Gutenberg bible or a 1st edition KJV.
Islam's prophet was a war-mongering adulterous sexual predator who is honored and raised to near-deity status.
OMG! After reading this I began to foam at the mouth! Oh wait, that is slobber from smelling the BACON cooking in the kitchen.
This highlihts yet another difference between the ROP and Christianity. They think the paper and ink are holy. We do not.
But it is EgypT where this is happening. Let them deal with it.
Blasphemy or democracy?
NBC just reporting the false equivalency and trying to gain sympathy for the Muslim Brotherhood/Islamist rule of Egypt. We are not suppose to question why Obama has had the movie maker arrested in America against constitutional protections and we are suppose to now think that critiquing any religion maybe should be illegal. The article also has a video link to the crazy Muslim woman who was arrested in NY for defacing the pro Israel ad pontificating on what caused the recent violence. You would think that NBC would have distanced themselves from that witch ASAP....but no..she is still an esteemed fake reporter.
Islam is about idol worship, such as their “book” and that rock in Mecca.
Christianity is about God. Burn the NT, it’s just a copy.
Liberals get a big kick out of slandering Jesus and Christians even to the point of installing a cultural cleansing program referred to as political correctness and an overwhelming America with a third world foreign invasion.
But they have the nerve to pretend offense at less than flattering descriptions of Islam. It is like when feminazis were against sexual harassment of employees until BJ hit on his intern Monica. They they all wore knee pads and took up sluthood. Wonder when they will be forced to throw off their fake burkahs.
What the cleric did is not blasphemy in Christianity.
1. He’s not a Christian; so he can say what he wants about Christianity; and besides,
2. If he were a Christian and if within his own Church what he did was blasphemy, that charge would have no effect whatsoever from the law as defined by government; and besides,
3. There is no Christian church today who would charge him, even as a member of their church, with blasphemy - they’d say he was stupid and just expell him from attending their particular church maybe but that would most likely be the worst of any “punishment” he would receive.
So, who arranged for this in Egypt?
It was probably arranged by the Muslim Brotherhood and it is nothing more than a stunt.
To the west it must be seen as a stunt and NOT reflective of any western standard of free speech.