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‘Gospel of Jesus’ Wife’ Fragment Is a Fake, Vatican Says
NYTimes ^ | September 28, 2012

Posted on 09/28/2012 8:38:33 AM PDT by Steelfish

‘Gospel of Jesus’ Wife’ Fragment Is a Fake, Vatican Says

September 28, 2012 VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - An ancient papyrus fragment which a Harvard scholar says contains the first recorded mention that Jesus may have had a wife is a fake, the Vatican said on Friday.

"Substantial reasons would lead one to conclude that the papyrus is indeed a clumsy forgery," the Vatican's newspaper, L'Osservatore Romano, said in an editorial by its editor, Gian Maria Vian. "In any case, it's a fake."

Joining a highly charged academic debate over the authenticity of the text, written in ancient Egyptian Coptic, the newspaper published a lengthy analysis by expert Alberto Camplani of Rome's La Sapienza university, outlining doubts about the manuscript and urging extreme caution.

The fragment, which reads "Jesus said to them, my wife" was unveiled by Harvard Professor Karen King as a text from the 4th century at a congress of Coptic Studies in Rome last week.

Her study divided the academic community, with some hailing it as a landmark discovery while others rapidly expressed their doubts .

"It's really pretty unlikely that it's authentic," University of Durham Professor Francis Watson told Reuters after he published a paper arguing the words on the fragment were a rearrangement of phrases from a well known Coptic text.

Watson, who has previously worked on identifying forged gospels, said it was likely to be an ancient blank fragment that was written over in the 20th or 21st century by a forger seeking to make money.

Watson argues the words on the fragment do not fit grammatically into a larger text.

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1 posted on 09/28/2012 8:38:36 AM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Even if it’s not a fake, it makes no difference whatsoever. Jesus is still the Son of God, He died for our sins and rose again on the third day....................


2 posted on 09/28/2012 8:40:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is it just me, or is Hillary! starting to look like Benjamin Franklin?.................)
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To: Steelfish

Even if it weren’t, it would simply be a text written by a gnostic or other heretic of the era.


3 posted on 09/28/2012 8:43:49 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to watch you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."--Del Shannon)
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To: Steelfish

Does anyone remember the Hitler diaries? Hugh Trevor-Roper, the most famous British historian, made a fool of himself by claiming that they were authentic. His reputation never recovered.


4 posted on 09/28/2012 8:44:30 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Steelfish
Who gives a Obama! Silly waste of time. Distraction.

Was Jesus married?

Is Jesus your only way to salvation?

Let me think, which question is more important? Hmmmmmm....

5 posted on 09/28/2012 8:45:48 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Steelfish
Oh no! The whole history of the Gospels was going to be rewritten, cosmic shifts in our understanding of Christian belief, and...and perrydimes too!

Now the find of the century is shot down as a fake.

6 posted on 09/28/2012 8:47:32 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Red Badger

I knew it was a fake from day one, anyone who checked this gal’s background would have noticed she has a history of feminist activism.


7 posted on 09/28/2012 8:48:32 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Steelfish

This is “The Secret Gospel of Mark” all over again. A very poor forgery unveiled by a unscrupulous academic trying to make a name for themselves.


8 posted on 09/28/2012 8:48:49 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Steelfish

There would have to be a lot more to the story than the fragment tells to know what it means, if anything. It could be a fake, or it could be a Gnostic writing, or it could be some variation of Jesus discussing his Bride, the Church.


9 posted on 09/28/2012 8:52:54 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Steelfish

I seem to recall the Catholic church in the dark ages did believe Jesus was married. Something about the knights of Sion or some such? Isn’t that what the DaVinci Code was all about?


10 posted on 09/28/2012 8:53:01 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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Whodathunk it?

An undestroyed fragment turns up after all these years in spite of the fact heaven and earth were turned over centuries ago to destroy all the evidence


11 posted on 09/28/2012 8:56:43 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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http://asspos.blogspot.com/2012/09/ancient-text-reveals-false-religion.html

This one wasn’t fake *snicker*


12 posted on 09/28/2012 8:57:00 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Steelfish

Apparently experts no long need to actually see a document to determine authenticity.


13 posted on 09/28/2012 8:59:22 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1347 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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Dear Penthousious,

I know thee shall not believe it, but yea, verily, it happened to me...


14 posted on 09/28/2012 8:59:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Writing from the conference, early Christian scholar Christian Askeland said specialists there were divided between two-thirds who were extremely skeptical, and one-third convinced the fragment was false

That's some funny stuff.

15 posted on 09/28/2012 9:00:49 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: null and void
Apparently experts no long need to actually see a document to determine authenticity.

He's an editor. Editors are experts on everything.

16 posted on 09/28/2012 9:04:53 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Red Badger

Amen. But, have to say this, too. Given the credibility issue and vested interest the Catholic Church would have in this subject, would anyone expect them to react any differently? Fake! Heretic! Burn her at the stake! Hasn’t the world heard that before from the Vatican et al?

Wouldn’t matter to me. He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Full stop. If He were married, I would think that would count as His support of the institution of marriage and another of HIs examples of how to live.


17 posted on 09/28/2012 9:04:53 AM PDT by RonInNaples
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To: null and void
Apparently experts no long need to actually see a document to determine authenticity.

He's an editor. Editors are experts on everything.

18 posted on 09/28/2012 9:04:53 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

Indeed! (And worth repeating!)


19 posted on 09/28/2012 9:08:37 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1347 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: dila813

Then I’m surprised she didn’t try to claim that Jesus beat his wife...........


20 posted on 09/28/2012 9:15:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is it just me, or is Hillary! starting to look like Benjamin Franklin?.................)
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