Skip to comments.I am (Not) the 47% ( I did not choose my tax bracket )
Posted on 09/28/2012 9:34:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
I can't take it anymore! It's time to set the record straight:
I am, officially and categorically, in the infamous 47% tax bracket. You know, the one everybody assumes are moochers, users and takers. The main factor that has not been incorporated into the argument is choice. As you cannot choose your tax bracket, I did not and cannot choose mine.
What I pay doesn't and shouldn't brand my integrity.
Both parties have liberally slathered my character as a usable calculation to their cause. Do the Democrats think that by dangling 'freebie carrots' they have my vote? Why do the Republicans write me off as a lost cause due to my eligibility for entitlement programs? It is our choices not our 'classes' (an old Soviet term) that define us.
I was gathering signatures on the petition to recall Gray Davis. Before the Tea Party emerged on the public scene, I was an attendant at the "Heads On A Stick" rallies hosted by John & Ken (local LA talk show hosts) protesting corrupt California politicians. I emerged with the Tea Party as I rallied at various representative townhalls protesting against Obama Care and standing shoulder-to- shoulder against SEIU paid thugs to keep us at distance.
I have never filed or used food stamps - I shop wisely.
I do not claim extra dependents on my tax forms for more deductions. I do not file 'earned income tax credits' where I would get a hefty check from the government come year's end. If you're not familiar with it, look it up. It will make your blood boil! I do not use the emergency room even when I've been advised to go. Amazing how I didn't need the stitches that everyone so adamantly assured me were necessary.
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Her fair share is what the tax code requires her to pay. I pay as little as the tax codes require of me, I take all deductions I legally can. She did not cheat or refuse to pay.
Why don’t you read posts before replying to them? He did not imply that *everyone* in that group was a moocher. I know plenty of “47 percenters” who know damn well he wasn’t talking about them.
The only people who read “moocher” into his statement were the real moochers, the people who were never going to vote for Romney anyway. Oh, and people like you, who have an insatiable need to find fault with everything Romney says....
As usual, the media’s characterization of what Mitt Romney said has people confused about what he really meant.
"Romney: There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. And I mean, the president starts off with 48, 49, 48he starts off with a huge number. These are people who pay no income tax. Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax. So our message of low taxes doesn't connect. And he'll be out there talking about tax cuts for the rich. I mean that's what they sell every four years. And so my job is not to worry about those peopleI'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. What I have to do is convince the 5 to 10 percent in the center that are independents that are thoughtful, that look at voting one way or the other depending upon in some cases emotion, whether they like the guy or not, what it looks like. I mean, when you ask those people
we do all these pollsI find it amazingwe poll all these people, see where you stand on the polls, but 45 percent of the people will go with a Republican, and 48 or 4
A nut job with psychologocal problems who is incapable of knowing that by "parasites" we don't mean the mentally challenged; or...
A troll who IS in fact a parasite gaming the system and claims the opposite; in other words, she suffers silently and "conservatives" are keeping her there.
The "progressives," and Obamabots really believe that the majority of working, taxpaying US citizens are morons!
And what’s so bad about that statement? It’s pretty accurate. The Democrats certainly have a lock on over 40% of the voters no matter what. That’s why the Democrat party can become as radical, communist and godless as they want, and they will still keep getting about their same share of the votes. Most people don’t think and only vote the party.
The only thing you can quibble with is whether the same percent who don’t pay income tax are the same people who vote Democrat. I’m sure he was just talking fast, and confusing his statements a little. Because even he definitely knows from living in the wealthy liberal state of Massachusetts that many Democrat voters do pay income tax.
Don’t forget those who are on the dole but are still working under the table and not paying taxes.
I listen to the radio as I drive around town, and it's amazing the number of young (usually females) who are outraged and dispirited because they can't find a job...
The latest, yesterday, ultimately admitted she had submitted three applications for jobs ----- in the last 18 months!
She actually thought she would get an avalanche of sympathy!
Which is one reason the mortgage deduction is an unfair tax on renters and usually a regressive tax to boot.
The tax code is wrong - horribly....
No it's wrong all the way around.
There are 47% who don't pay income tax but that includes retired Social Security recipients who tend to be Republican and many others. It was stupid to categorize them this way.
The 47% who don't pay income tax are different from the % who are on the gov't dole.
The % that are on the Gov't dole is not any where near 47% unless you include Social Security and Medicare Recipients.
Romney sounds like Coach Watson used to sound when he was head coach of Vanderbilt. They'd have a pre-game interview and Coach Watson would have 6 reasons ready why Vanderbilt was at a disadvantage. And the game wasn't even started. There's no wonder he had a terrible record.
You can ‘sarc’ it all you want. It still does not make up for the fact that there are people, regardless of their ‘goodness’ that are, through the tax code and no fault of their own, getting a free ride if they pay no federal income taxes. You can sugar coat intentions and all that paying what they legally owe, but this country was not founded to support people who cannot pay their way.
That's irrelevant now considering that they are a major source of the government's funding. I'm all for cutting spending. But no matter how low it is, everyone should be paying their fair share of the tax, however it is collected. And fair means everyone pays the same flat percentage, and they don't get deductions or tax credits that cancel out what they owe because they fit some special interest group, i.e. because they're homeowners, people who bought an "energy saving" car, etc.
I can say the same. In fact, I could have written this article! I wonder how many more of us there are.
The social security crowd was the only age group that voted against Obama.
Obama easily won the $200,000 income and above, by a 52 to 46 margin!
Obama lost the $50,000-$75,000 income group by a single point!
Obama won the $75,000 to $100,000 income group by a solid 51 to 48 margin.
I almost get the impression that you are calling for more taxes, higher taxes, than for reducing taxes.
But I guess for you “fair share” for a rich person is okay, right?
I used to support that thinking, but after 20 years of having an ironclad rule against raising taxes for any reason, I no longer support raising taxes.
You’re just repeating exactly what I said was the one slight inaccuracy in his statement. The 47% figure doesn’t match up exactly what Democrat voters and those not paying taxes, as I said. Everything else he said was true. If you take out the 47% figure and replace it with “many people” then there’s no debating it’s accurate.
And, yes, he is including SS and Medicare recipients in the bunch who the message of “low taxes” will not resonate with. Many of those people are part of the problem. They would not let George W. Bush reform Social Security to be a sustainable, privatized program for young people. They are mooching off the younger taxpayers by bleeding the program dry and refusing to let us reform it for ourselves. They are the people McCain talked about who are charging up the credit card and sticking their grandkids with the bill.
And, no, they aren’t “entitled” to SS and Medicare just because they paid something into it. The programs are going broke because not enough money was paid in to cover the expenditures. They’re being sent checks that are above and beyond the value that they paid in. So when they refuse to let us reform these programs for futur sustainability, I hold them accountable as moochers of the younger generations.
I agree but it is what we have. I don’t like the fact that Romney pays a lower percent of taxes than I do but I don’t blame him. He is paying what the tax code requires of him. Just as I don’t blame the lady in the article.
If the shoe doesn’t fit don’t wear it.