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Mitt Romney's ‘secret:’ Pennsylvania is competitive
Politico ^ | 9/28/12 | DARREN SAMUELSOHN

Posted on 09/28/2012 10:42:31 AM PDT by kingattax

WAYNE, Pa. — Mitt Romney declared Pennsylvania a battleground during a mid-morning rally here Friday, despite public polls showing him well behind in the race for the state’s prized 20 electoral votes.

“I’ve got a little secret here and that is that the Obama campaign thinks that Pennsylvania is in their pocket. They don’t need to worry about it,” Romney said during a visit to a military academy in the Philadelphia suburbs.

“And you’re right and they’re wrong. We’re going to win Pennsylvania and we’re going to take the White House.”

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2012election; 2012swingstates; pa2012; paelection; paforromney; swingstates
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1 posted on 09/28/2012 10:42:34 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

Unemployment is high in Pennsylvania. The state is becoming a retirement state. I hope they wake up in my old home.


2 posted on 09/28/2012 10:47:09 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: kingattax

PA isn’t the only Dem stronghold that is competitive.


3 posted on 09/28/2012 10:47:28 AM PDT by barmag25
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To: kingattax

Told ya so.

I live here and the only places you ever hear anyone sing Obama’s praises are:

-Black neighborhoods in inner city Pittsburgh and Philly
-College campuses
-In Union Halls (and even there only among the kool aid drinkers)

Democrats have a 3 or 4 to 1 registration advantage around here and you hardly ever see an Obama yard sign or bumper sticker. He has really, REALLY alienated the white working class.


4 posted on 09/28/2012 10:47:52 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Democrats have a 3 or 4 to 1 registration advantage around here and you hardly ever see an Obama yard sign or bumper sticker.

I live in a pretty liberal part of the Philly burbs. Area was festooned with Obama signs in 2008 - including some in Hebrew. Hardly see any now.

5 posted on 09/28/2012 10:50:55 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: kingattax

i think they have a bigger problem..I have been reading many fb post that claim the teaparty movement will be better if Romney loses. thats no help and it could be dems posting but looks like its gaining traction....welcome to mor obama..i dont agree at all


6 posted on 09/28/2012 10:52:56 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: kingattax

One word: Coal! All of western PA and eastern OH is coal country.

And I’m sure Romney’s ad using Obama’s own words on coal plants is running there full tilt! Romney can take Pennsylvania.


7 posted on 09/28/2012 10:53:20 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yes, don’t assume every member of a union is an Obama
supporter or drinks the kool aid.


8 posted on 09/28/2012 10:53:44 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: dalebert

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2937570/posts


9 posted on 09/28/2012 10:54:19 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Buckeye McFrog

PA is a coal state. I’ve seen a ton of Stop the War on Coal signs... The poll that has Bambi leading by 10 was based on a model of 39D 27R 28I. The Dems have been fighting the Voter ID law like crazy because they know that they can not win PA in a fair election.

I have not seen many Romney signs in my end of Allegheny County (other than my own), but I see very many anti-Obama signs. “Keep America Free - Fire Obama” and “Stop the War on Coal - Fire Obama” and the ones I see most. By the same token, I have not seen a single Obama sign. I’ve only seen a handful of bumper stickers, mostly the 2008 stickers. Only have seen a couple 2012 Obama stickers. Have seen a handful of Romney stickers and a bunch of anti-Obama stickers.


10 posted on 09/28/2012 10:56:41 AM PDT by RayBob (If guns kill people, can I blame misspelled words on my keyboard?)
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To: kingattax

seems like we hear this every four years, and the Democrats win PA by a fairly comfortable margin.


11 posted on 09/28/2012 10:57:59 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: dalebert
.I have been reading many fb post that claim the teaparty movement will be better if Romney loses.

That is pure idiocy of the highest order, bordering on psychotic dementia. If Obama wins, we will lose the Supreme Court for at at least 10 years. Obamacare will get so deeply entrenched that it would take 10-20 years to undo the mess, even if the White House was regained in 2016. The economy will go into a full blown 30's super depression. 30 million illegals will become voting Democrats and make it almost impossible for them to be beaten. And on and on.

12 posted on 09/28/2012 10:59:21 AM PDT by MrDem (Founder: Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: kingattax

When I saw the news story about Ryan outfitting his 10-year-old girl for hunting, I thought it might have some positive impact in Pennsylvania. Around 2000, I was considering a transfer to a G.E. office in Pennsylvania. I saw the company’s holiday schedule, and the first day of hunting season was a holiday — for the state, I believe; not G.E. They’re serious about the Second Amendment, and about hunting.


13 posted on 09/28/2012 11:01:28 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: dalebert

This is a quadrennial Dem talking point. They try it every time. The propagandists are out in force on Facebook.


14 posted on 09/28/2012 11:01:45 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: RayBob
The poll that has Bambi leading by 10 was based on a model of 39D 27R 28

Nice turnout model when all branches of our State Government are controlled by Republicans. LOL!


15 posted on 09/28/2012 11:04:12 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: dalebert

I think its real, unfortunately. I know some of these types. Cowardly people who happen to be conservatives start to get worried that Obama might win, so instead of doubling down and trying harder to beat Obama, they essentially start saying crazy stuff like this so, if Romney loses, they will be able to save face. They will never admit this motive, but its there.


16 posted on 09/28/2012 11:05:58 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: RayBob

Coal and the Keystone Pipeline could definitely be issues where PA voters are turning against Obama.


17 posted on 09/28/2012 11:07:40 AM PDT by plushaye (Election 2012 Prayer Force)
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To: firebrand
The propagandists are out in force on Facebook.

The Obama campaign hired a firm in India to create thousands of fake profiles as a vehicle to distribute propaganda (a factor, BTW, in why Facebook's IPO crashed)


18 posted on 09/28/2012 11:09:01 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: kingattax

This is an interesting tidbit

http://battlegroundwatch.com/2012/09/24/obama-gets-nearly-zero-independent-votes-leads-in-8-in-pennsylvania-mercyhurst/


19 posted on 09/28/2012 11:09:43 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: MayflowerMadam

It’s not a state holiday, but it is for many companies, especially those in manufacturing. So it’s one good thing that comes from having a unionized workforce.


20 posted on 09/28/2012 11:11:13 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: kingattax

“making the comrades at politico nervous”

Good, let them stay nervous! :)

“Obama polled 47 percent to Romney’s 45 percent among likely Pennsylvania voters, with 6 percent of voters undecided and 44 days until Election Day, according to the survey by Susquehanna Polling & Research. The survey of 800 voters, conducted Sept. 18-20, has a margin of error of 3.46 percentage points.”

http://triblive.com/home/2641005-74/obama-percent-romney-poll-voters-pennsylvania-leads-lee-margin-points#axzz27muTLW6K


21 posted on 09/28/2012 11:14:06 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: kingattax
Obama's campaign headquarters is flashing the URGENT message:

"We need to ship a whole mess of them Obama phones over to PA pronto!"

22 posted on 09/28/2012 11:16:38 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I think I read something about fake FB pages becoming illegal.


23 posted on 09/28/2012 11:19:04 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: dalebert

As a member of the Tea Party, we will be stronger regardless of who wins. We will hold Romney’s feet to the fire so that will keep us involved. And at least he unlike Obama might respond!


24 posted on 09/28/2012 11:29:24 AM PDT by nclaurel
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To: MrDem

Agree. There won’t BE a Tea Party if he gets in again.


25 posted on 09/28/2012 11:36:33 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: MayflowerMadam

Schools in my area of Pa. are closed opening day of deer. It’s been that way since I was a kid in school. Back then none of the teachers and half of the students didn’t show up for school so they made it part of Thanksgiving vacation. I can remember during deer season the talk in homeroom every morning was what did you see, where did you see it and did you get a shot.


26 posted on 09/28/2012 11:39:44 AM PDT by SHOOT THE MOON bat (Truck yeah, does that song suck, yeah. Till the sun comes up, yeah.)
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To: dirtboy

With respects red states and blue states, the Dems seem to have the old Soviet mentality, what’s mine is mine, what’s yours is negotiable.

Of course with a crappy economy like this, with plenty of angry and upset voters out there, the GOP has a good chance of picking up a number of states including PA that have trended Dem in recent years. Nothing is set in stone this year.

For what it’s worth, I live in L.A. I’m on the frewaays every day. Four years ago there were Obama bumperstickers and yard signs EVERYWHERE. You couldn’t avoid seeing them even if you tried. Today, it’s just the opposite, you actually have to out of your way and keep your eyes peeled to locate them.

Not predicting at this point that Obama will lose CA. I am saying there is absolutely no enthusiasm whatsoever for him this year compared to four years ago.


27 posted on 09/28/2012 11:40:39 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: MrDem
You are correct, Sir.

If Obama wins , the American dream, RIP.

It will send a clear signal that America is done with capitalism and freedom. That we have collectively embraced socialism. That will be the reality.

We will need to accept it and make alternative plans. The tipping point has no return.

28 posted on 09/28/2012 11:48:06 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: plushaye
Driving down route 81, south of PA, you get the big Anti Obama billboards. Big Coal ain't happy.
29 posted on 09/28/2012 11:55:50 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: bmwcyle

If it truly is in play then obama is toast. However, this same dangling of it’s electoral votes happens every four yrs for republicans.

I would have to have some substantially hard internal polling data to commit my forces in Penn.


30 posted on 09/28/2012 11:55:54 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: kingattax

I also live in a fairly liberal Philly suburb — in 2008 there were at least 5 Obama signs visible from my front curb. This year = NONE — there are no Romney signs, either, but that’s not unusual, as there may have been only 2 or 3 for McCain in the entire neighborhood. I think many conservatives here feel “threatened” (for lack of a better word) and just vote quietly and don’t discuss.


31 posted on 09/28/2012 11:55:54 AM PDT by twyn1
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To: bmwcyle

Actually Unemployment is lower than national average here thanks to Marcellous Shale Drilling etc...

If Romney were to fight for PA I think he could win, but its obvious that PA is not being fought over, so I expect Obama to win, but his margin will be nowhere near the margin in 08.. Any poll showing a 10 point lead in PA for Obama is nonsense.


32 posted on 09/28/2012 11:58:14 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I Agree, I’d say the race in PA right now is about a 3-4 pointer, but Romney doesn’t seem to want to fight for it, so I expect it to end the day in that range. If they fight for it, I think its winnable, but they would have to really commit to fighting for it.

The number of angry blue collar life long democrats here is amazing! Obama has basically spit on the Blue Dogs.. and they are abandoning him.


33 posted on 09/28/2012 12:03:00 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: LS
Agree. There won’t BE a Tea Party if he gets in again.

Roger that. Job one will be dealing with their Rush Limbaugh/Breitbart problem once and for all, and permanently consolidating their gains. Ain't no turning back from this.


34 posted on 09/28/2012 12:05:30 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: twyn1
“threatened” (for lack of a better word) and just vote quietly and don’t discuss..........

Where I live, I get hassled by Dems. I had a McCain bumper sticker and had a mob of African Americans surround me yelling insults, about a week before the last election. At the polls they get aggressive, make you promise to vote Dem. If you don't, you just know you may have car problems when you come back out, or get a baseball bat in the face. So I agree with them, tell them I will vote Obama.

I no longer put bumper stickers on the car. It's too dangerous.

35 posted on 09/28/2012 12:08:39 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: PA-RIVER

What you mentioned is very real (as you well know) and why I am convinced there are a very large number of blue collar dems that will QUIETLY vote for Romney but not tell anyone.


36 posted on 09/28/2012 12:18:59 PM PDT by MrDem (Founder: Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: HamiltonJay

Isn’t Romney being there today and saying he will win PA the beginning of him “fighting for it”? Not being sarcastic as I always appreciate your thoughts


37 posted on 09/28/2012 12:19:06 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: PA-RIVER

Exactly, and in my area, most conservatives tend to be older and/or were raised to be polite and non-confrontational.

I’ve already decided that, IF there is any sort of disruptive attempt at intimidation at my voting place, I will go directly to the police station and demand someone accompany me back so I can vote in safety. I will then make sure to contact my elderly neighbors and warn them, also offer to go back with them and get more help if needed.


38 posted on 09/28/2012 12:21:51 PM PDT by twyn1
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To: over3Owithabrain

I think Romney should go on offense. Campaign almost exclusively in the blue states place like PA, MI, WI, IA, MN, DE, MD, NJ, CT, ME,NM, OR etc...

RR carried all of those states. They are not cemented to theDems. It is this crazy red state/blue state mentality which keeps the GOP on defense all of the time.

Romney needs start talking about what he will do, how he will change things. Reform our insane tax code, reform out of control entitlements, block grant programs like Food Stamps and Medicaid back to the states, repeal Obamacare and replace it with health savings accounts, and allowing health insurance to be purchased across state lines, put people back to work drill baby drill, offshore and on public lands and in ANWR, build the damn pipeline,etc.

I could go and on. He has nothing to lose. If I were advising the campaign, I would say go on OFFENSE campaign in the blue states, throw the Dems off, and tell what your’re going to do once in office.

The voters have already decided Obama’s policies suck. But they are not going to vote for change this year unless they know what that change is going to be.


39 posted on 09/28/2012 12:32:21 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: HamiltonJay

I agree that there seems to still be anger from the ‘Reagan democrats’ but there are so many idiot democrats out there that will vote for the POS no matter what.

You still thinking he won’t/can’t get above about 43%/44% on election day?


40 posted on 09/28/2012 12:39:01 PM PDT by tatown ( FUMD, FUAC, and FUGB)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Sounds like a decent idea! What states is he running ads in? All the ads I have seen in SC are Obama ads.
41 posted on 09/28/2012 12:44:25 PM PDT by LongViewSC
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
I think Romney should go on offense. Campaign almost exclusively in the blue states place like PA, MI, WI, IA, MN, DE, MD, NJ, CT, ME,NM, OR etc...

Excellent idea actually. Bypass the typical "battleground" states and focus instead on the next tier - the "light blue" states. Focusing on those normally blue states will definitely unnerve the Obama campaign and it will have the effect of pulling the typical battleground states into the red as well.

Good battlefield tactics. Why nibble around at the edges when you can get aggressive and go for the whole enchilada. It's like Patton simply going around the Maginot line and flooding enemy territory with tanks and troops instead of trying to bust through it. Once Patton was through, holding the Maginot line became pointless and it quickly evaporated.

Romney needs to act like a winner. Start telling the country what he will do WHEN he is elected, not IF. Make the case that his election is a fait accompli.

42 posted on 09/28/2012 12:54:17 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: tatown

No, not nationally I don’t. Individual states will very, but I still feel the national vote Obama has a max in the low 40s.


43 posted on 09/28/2012 12:58:24 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: SamAdams76

Thanks, I am a student of military history. I study the maps. I think strategically. I like playing on offense.

With an economy as pathetic as this, high unemployment, $16 TRILLION national debt, high gas prices, household income down 4k from four years ago, I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHY WE ARE NOW ON DEFENSE RIGHT NOW.


44 posted on 09/28/2012 1:04:04 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: kingattax; barmag25; randita; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; Perdogg; LS

Well look Obama won it by 10, one of his smaller margins, in the top ten closest Obama states he hardly gained versus 2004 there compared to some other states. And it was only a meager 2.5% win for Kerry, so sure it’s competitive, it’s never not been and it’s never been a “dem stronghold” it’s a swing state but rat leaning thanks to Philly. If Romney wins 53 nationally he’s probably taking PA. If he’s at 51% or less, probably not.

There’s little chance Romney would need it for 270 but if he gets it then the game is iced.


45 posted on 09/28/2012 2:51:06 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: MrDem

havnt heard much about supremes but have been thinking about them all along.


46 posted on 09/28/2012 2:53:14 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“... you hardly ever see an Obama yard sign or bumper sticker.”

Yep! I cut across from Lancaster through Chester County to work everyday through the outer ring suburban horsey land of the Jaguar, BMW and Mercedes. Last time there were signs a plenty. This time there is ONE Obama sign on my entire route.


47 posted on 09/28/2012 4:29:04 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG ... there is no such thing as coincidence)
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To: fatima; xsmommy; Nowhere Man; South Hawthorne; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; ...

PA Ping!

If you want on/off the PA Ping List, please freepmail me. Thanks!


48 posted on 09/28/2012 7:43:55 PM PDT by randita
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To: SHOOT THE MOON bat
Schools in my area of Pa. are closed opening day of deer. It’s been that way since I was a kid in school

Same thing in my area...not far from the I-95 corridor.

Every District in the County except for the City schools is closed.

"Bitter clingers"!

49 posted on 09/28/2012 8:24:36 PM PDT by lightman (Settling for the "lesser of two..." is still choosing Evil)
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To: cotton1706

I’m seeing many “Stop the war on Coal - Fire Obama!” signs around here. In fact, I stopped in at our Repub headquarters and they are out of that sign and people are requesting them. They haven’t gotten in the Romney/Ryan signs yet, which I guess explains why I haven’t seen any - but I’ve only seen two Obama signs. And we’re a college town of over 15,000!


50 posted on 09/29/2012 1:15:12 AM PDT by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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