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Posted on 09/28/2012 1:35:34 PM PDT by madprof98
That, apparently, is the long-held view of Mitts men not and not just about the forthcoming debates, but about the whole campaign.
I have this from the lips of Sam Coates, the deputy political editor of the London Times, who was on BBC Radio 4′s Broadcasting House last Sunday participating in one of those panels of pundits-looking-at-the-press. Everyone agreed that, according to the polls, the U.S. election was finally over and that Obama would be back for four more years. All the newspapers all said so. It feels, said Coates, that the incumbent is pulling away.
Coates said the assumption of a Romney defeat fit his own view of the Republicans surrounding Mitt, a pessimism he saw back when Romney was in London eating his foot while talking about the Olympics. His aides were there, he said, and they were telling some of our political advisers that, really, they werent that optimistic about their guys chances. Theyre pretty resigned to it not going well, and its interesting to see that people are already moving away from his campaign.
Does this seem plausible? Coates is a normally careful reporter. So does it seem that the coterie of mostly cautious Republicans surrounding Mitt are just going through the motions, they way they did for Dole and McCain? Does it seem, as it does from the Euro side of the Atlantic, that Mitts Republicans are embarrassed by their base by the vision thing and sometimes even by their VP nominee? If thats true, then maybe all those odd polls reported by Katrina are true, too. After all, for two terms in the state of Kansas, where almost every voter is a Republican, voters routinely chose Sebelius, a left-wing extremist, over GOP candidates well-marinated in moderation. Nobody wants to vote for the reasonable chap running as functionary-in-chief.
In fact, what Americans seem to want is more polarization, not less. Those Republicans who try to campaign by galvanizing and leading their base, instead of ignoring and avoiding it, must be feeling now the way Romneys dour aides have apparently felt all along pretty resigned, minus the pretty. This is true in Senate races, too, and especially with influential PACs. In Michigan, where conservative Pete Hoekstra was running neck-and-neck with liberal Debbie Stabenow, the super PACs quit early and went elsewhere. As one source well-placed in the Hoekstra campaign told me, We feel like the Rodney Dangerfield of Senate races.
Scott Walker, the conservative Wisconsin Republican who defeated an all-out, union-run recall effort in a Democratic state, seemed to speak for many of the unwashed, according to the Independent:
It is no accident that Mr Romney hopes to close the book on his latest embarrassments with a bus tour in Ohio. It may also be telling that the tour will be opened by his running mate, Paul Ryan. Mr Ryan, who will address supporters in Lima, Ohio, today, is increasingly being seen as the more effective campaigner. Scott Walker, the Governor of Wisconsin, said as much when he praised Mr Ryan and said he hadnt seen the kind of passion I know that Paul has transferred over to our nominee.
Like other Republican luminaries, Mr Walker is no longer shy in offering his counsel to Mr Romney. I want to see fire in the belly, he declared, demanding evidence that the nominee is lit up and ready to go. He added: I think you got to get off the heels and get out and charge forward.
Fire in the belly? Lit up and ready to go? Mitt? Like a Glo-Stick on a bus, maybe.
up to 1 point in Ras swing state polls, up plenty with indies, no worries
As I recall there have been several hundred “anonymous” sourced” Mass Media stories like this that have turned out to be total BS in the last 10 years.
Odd how the sour grapes crowd wants to dismiss mass media stories that challenge their emotion based opinions while feverishly clinging to one that validate their sour grapes that Romney won the Primary
Almost no one here was excited when Mitt became our nominee, but he is the only chance we have to derail four more years of hell on Earth.
I will support him regardless. I just hope he can pull things together, inspire the base, and spark a rally before this thing ends.
Boo freakin’ Hoo - I’m not buying it. At the very least, I think it’s going to be very close. If I’m wrong, so be it, I’ll eat my words on 11/6.
Unlike Dole the economy sucks. They keep beating the drums that Obama is winning because they want to discourage Republicans from voting. Rasmussen is showing too close to call.
I don’t believe for a second that the campaign was resigned to loss in July when they were on their visits to London and Israel. The campaign was at the time running well, and the outlook for Obama was terrible as the economy was tanking all summer. It makes no sense.
This is a hacker job article, pulling unnamed sources and out of context quotes from people like Scott Walker. Walker’s comments were positive and encouraging, not negative and hopeless.
Oh yeah everyone, let’s just give up and go home in September.......Obama is unstoppable.
Nobody wants him re-elected, nobody wants him to have four more years but hey, all those polls cannot possibly be lies to disocurage us now can they?
And since when does the Romney camp talk to reporters in London about how they feel?
Again the message is “Stay home, it’s over”.
It’s only over if we allow it to be over. That is what Obama is counting on, it’s the only prayer he’s got and we need to do a much better job of recognizing psychological operations when we see them.
As for who we nominated, we'll know better after the debates.
you anti Romney people may get your wish yet....
and you will face the consequences like the rest of us...
you'll be in the pro obama camp from here on out, and may God have mercy on your souls...
I don’t know this Dennis Boyles, but I don’t know why National Review would try to undermine Romney. He was their first choice!
Who know what lies behind this story. It must be said that Romney has a bunch of spineless losers for handlers. He lent some of them to McCain last time around, and they did everything they could to lose the election.
NRO belongs in the same dust bin as Peggy Noonan and Crease Brooks. Waving the white flag on September 29th. Unbelievable.
I want to see this guy’s face when Romney wins convincingly on November 6th.
Romney has a natural constiuency..Mormons...he has money...he has monied friends....this is the worse economy since the Great depression and more and more job layoffs are announced each day...
our Ambassador was just torn out of his home and sodomized and murdered....
THIS is not 1996....
Romney wasn’t my first choice but I’d rather have him as president than Obama. We are in the middle of a war. Sitting back and this point and saying “I told you so” isn’t going to advance anything.
I’m just plain disgusted by the media and the “conservative” weak-kneed pansies who are more interested in moaning about how horrible everything is than winning. They need to stop writing this type of BS, stop writing columns about how Romney should change his campaign and start writing about how bad the enemy is.
The end result of this campaign, whether Romeny wins or loses, is that I’m a lot less likely to read “conservative” blogs that put a lot of negative BS up, or that turn tail and run when Romney is down. Its not how I want to spend my time. Screw them.
Same reason they tried to undermine McCain, who was also their first choice in 2008: NRO is run by closet Obama-bots.
Yes, I’m an idiot supreme and that is why I believe that all of Romney’s team members, when they were over in London in July, were telling everyone that they thought they were going to lose. Why would that not be credible?
Ubama is not winning any demographic he lost in 2008, and is behind 2008 in the demographics he did win.
Fact is, Ubama is going to lose in a landslide, and he knows it, which is why he and Moochelle just bought that new crib in Hawaii.
He wouldn't be planning a move if he thought he was going to win.
I know people who’ve never voted who are registered now and cannot wait to pull the Anti-Obama lever. All of these “articles” make me laugh. Look at any yahoo article bashing Mitt or stroking Obama and it’s easily a 60/40 split if not more of posters who LOATH Obama. The guy is the biggest Worm in American politics and November 6th will show it.
In 2008 my fingers were crossed because every damn person I talked to would not say a negative thing about Obama.
I can’t find a person to say something nice. Coal plants shut down (union). Energy plant filed bankruptcy (union) RR workers who move everything but mostly coal (union). They all hate the Socialist POS.
Mittens has no fire in his belly(unless he’s running against conservatives in the primaries).
There are so many ways to attack Zero, but he chooses not to.
I still predict that about two weeks before the election, he will turn hard right to attempt to ensure conservatives will
get out and vote. Will it work? Who knows.
Me either but what I do know is that in any war, there are always the weak and feckless types that at the slightest sign of adversity, start either cozying up to the enemy or going into a variation of Stockholm Syndrome.
Sounds like their game plan is working - make the Right depressed and have them give up because “it’s already over”. Don’t let them get to you with the BS.
Funny to see NR complain about the GOP-e that they themselves are card carrying members of.
The UK media shows Romney as a right-wing nutter buffoon... even the TELEGRAPH seems to do so, you can tell from the people who leave messages at the TELEGRAPH blogs
I would like to see an utter repudiation of 0bama along the lines of 1980, or better.
I recall many (including Rush) say obama and the LSM would pull out all the stops to demoralize us. That’s what I remember and that’s what’s happening.
I have one word for both you and Dennis Boyle:
-proudly quoting General Anthony McAuliffe, responding to the German ultimatum to surrender at the Battle of the Bulge
Most of us here opposed Romney in the primaries. Our candidates didn't win. Now the primaries are over.
Surprizingly, Romney shifted more conservative after the primaries, first time we've ever seen that in our lifetimes, perhaps the first time it ever happened.
Right now, Romney is ahead by about 10%, and the trend is against Obama. That upward curve will be almost vertical by the first week in November.
By Nov 6, Romney is going to win the popular vote by about 59% to 39%, and the electoral vote will look like 1980 or 1984. Obama will lose Illinois, along with the rest of the midwestern states, and will be lucky to finish with just DC, NY, and CA.
I just don't know why you Obama supporters are hanging out on FR, other than to spread your commie propaganda.
Heck, it was predicted for more than a year before the nomination. There are those who saw this coming four years ago.
“by Dennis Boyles” no it’s ‘Denis Boyle’
Welcome visitor from the future. May we also have the winning Super Lotto numbers from that time period?
You seem happy to be spreading this CRAP.
Doper research on
Your AstroTurf next time .
The author of this hit piece is a Ex Pat living in
He is a lib and a French living elite !
He quotes the London Times , a
Left wing rag which trashes Romney non stop !
Obama and Axelrod appreciated your work today
It may be that I’m wrong and Obama will win.
But I am so disappointed that so many people on this site actually think the media has suddenly started reporting the truth 40 days before a Presidential election. Good grief. Come buy a bridge from me.
You’ve been here long enough to know that posting this article would result in a 100* personal attacks, and the highly original invitations to “go back to DU”, yes?
If my “handlers” were telling any media they thought I was going to lose I would fire their butts yesterday.
Seriously, if you people spreading defeatism and gloom cost us this election I will blame YOU for the loss of my liberty to my dying day.
If you can’t lead, get the hell out of the way and for God’s sake Shut Up!
I think the ground game of the Dems is to saturate the ground with negative expectations ahead of the debates. They just aren’t breaking into the 50 per cent territory they would like to be at with Obama. The Dems fear that Mitt will cream Obama in the debates as there is so much to cream him with. If, however, they are able to get it into peoples’ heads that Mitt is the foregone loser, then the people who need to watch the debates won’t watch them and America’s destruction will be assured. We’ll have voted our own destruction into being!
NRO is part of the “We have to be nice and civil and never lower ouraleves to do the things Democrats do” crowd.
They have created this mess. So Mitt hasn’t got a fire in his belly? Neither does anybody at NRO!
My take on this is that with all this "it's all over but the shouting," being reported, while it may demoralize some Republicans/Conservatives, they are much more energized and will (for the most part) ignore this BS (as we are smart enough to realize the corrupt, biased, MSM is doing this on purpose) turn out to vote.
On the other hand, I suggest that if they keep this up and the Ijits in the RAT Party keep seeing this reported, they are apt to think they don't have to bother to vote as it's "in the bag!"
I’m sorry but your definition of “100%” is rather at odds with the facts here.
The Democrats have successfully turned themselves into an ideologically coherent fighting party, who know what they want and what they are prepared to do to get it.
The Republicans? Don't make me laugh.
IF Romney loses by a couple of points we are all going to point at people like YOU as the cause.
Those of you supposed "conservatives" clinging to your sour grapes about the primary who are so willing to propagandize for the enemy may cost the GOP 1-3 points in votes nation wide.
We are going to remember that after Nov. After the Elections Conservatives are not going to just forgive and forget those who actively worked to re-elect 0bama
Rubbish. Obama is an endless disaster. I find it hard to believe there are enough dumb people in the U.S. to get him re-elected.
You can’t blame EVERYTHING on Obama when Bush had 8 years to figure out the mortgage loan issue and did nothing, the Republicans held the Congress I think for 6 of those years, they currently hold the House yet they do nothing about the out of control spending even though spending bills originate in the House, etc, etc, etc.
ALL of Washington DC is to blame for this mess, not just obama, and Romney did just as badly in Taxachusettes as Obama has done for the country.
Sorry, but I can’t stand to listen to this “Our side, YEAH!” crap any longer. There isn’t a single trend to the positive for either side and the RNC gives us an extreme left-wing liberal FR used to make fun of just a few years ago as their presidential candidate and you sing that praise simply because that left winger is to displace the other side’s left winger?? Insanity.
I have direct reports that Romney bumper stickers are popping up in liberal towns.
My personal observation has been that Obama stickers are few and far between.
I have no explanation for why conservative pundits are pushing the lie that Obama is ahead in the polls.
If Republicans are just going through the motions, then I will have to change my party affiliation, since there would be no point in being a Republican.
The largest massive debt increases have been when the Republicans held the House, and some years even the Senate. BOTH sides are just as guilty of this mess.
After a war is over, it is the collaboraters and quislings who are shot. They are the lowest form of scum. Defeated enemy soldiers are treated much better.