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To: rhema

Marriage is a religious sacrament. There is no rational argument for “gay marriage”. Civil Unions would achieve the same thing they claim they are trying to accomplish.

This is about imposing their moral code on everyone around them. YOU are not allowed to disagree with their lifestyle. You must, via the power of the state, be forced to embrace their dogma. That is basically fascism. It has nothing at all to do with civil rights.


2 posted on 09/28/2012 3:40:09 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

It’s been a convenient secular tool. What better way to go to bat against religion than claim particular religions’ existence violates one’s own rights? It’s a distorted, and awful ideology, but that’s what one of freedom’s biggest enemies is right now.


4 posted on 09/28/2012 3:49:05 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: MNJohnnie

Civil Unions would achieve the same thing they claim they are trying to accomplish.

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Actually they want the complete destruction of traditional families in America. And even Civil Unions would acheive that goal.

Therefore, gays must be denied the right to marry AND be denied civil unions.

As goes the American Family - so goes America. As the homos gain more “rights” we lose morally AND economically.


7 posted on 09/28/2012 3:56:20 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Agreed.


10 posted on 09/28/2012 4:01:24 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: MNJohnnie

“YOU are not allowed to disagree with their lifestyle. You must, via the power of the state, be forced to embrace their dogma. That is basically fascism. It has nothing at all to do with civil rights”.

And right out of the Communist Manifesto.


18 posted on 09/28/2012 4:32:16 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: MNJohnnie
This is about imposing their moral code on everyone around them. YOU are not allowed to disagree with their lifestyle.

I'll go you one further: the "gay marriage" issue is about destroying the Church. Period. Look at what's happening in the United Kingdom right now: the State Sponsored Church of England is being forced to perform 'gay marriages' under penalty of law.

Think that's not coming here if the homosexual activists have their way?

20 posted on 09/28/2012 4:32:54 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: MNJohnnie
Gay "marriage" will affect all future marriages and all Americans in general because...

1. No true Christians or Jews will be able to work in the marriage business. If a business ever denies a gay couple its services that business will be sued out of existence.

2. No true Christians or Jews will be able to work in any business that indirectly supports the marriage business. If florists or photographers or people who rent out halls deny their services to a gay couple they will be sued out of existence.

3. All Christian or Jewish organizations that make some money each year by renting out buildings they own will either have to stop renting to anyone or prepare to have their property signed over to the first gay couple that has their reception request denied.

4. All Christians and Jews will have to take their children out of public schools where the sex education teachers will be forced to teach gay "marriage" as equivalent to traditional marriage.

5. All Christians and Jews will have to take their children out of private schools. If those schools fail to teach gay "marriage" as OK then they will be closed as discriminators.

6. Christians and Jews who attempt to homeschool their children will be declared child abusers if they fail to teach their children that gay "marriage" is OK. This will be folded into the anti-bullying agenda which is quickly focusing on anti-gay-bullying and the supposed epidemic of "homophobia" that supposedly terrorizes America's youth.

7. Anyone who uses the words "states" and "rights" in the same sentence will be declared a homophobe as well as a racist.

8. I don't see Americans supporting person-animal, person-machine, or even incestual relationships any time soon. However, it will be increasingly difficult to deny people who want to engage in multiple "marriages". If gay partners are now being treated as spouses by Homeland Security with regard to deportation, then I don't see how they can deny a man entry into America along with his multiple wives if he is able to successfully claim he is a political refugee from an Islamic country. Once a few of these folks are allowed in, it will only be a matter of time before the marriage licenses, which used to have lines for Husband and Wife, and now have lines for Partner A and Partner B, will be expanded to include lines for Partners C, D, E, etc.

21 posted on 09/28/2012 4:35:02 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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