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How Government Will Take Meat off Your Table
The New American ^ | 28 September 2012 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 09/29/2012 6:02:08 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer

The British pork industry is collapsing, and it’s a story that should serve as a warning to all of us. Why? Because the agents of its demise have the entire West in their crosshairs.

The numbers are staggering. With a pig herd halved during the last decade, Britain has gone from producing 110 percent of its domestic consumption of pork to only 40 percent. This is due to many of the nation’s pig farmers having left the business, and they’re poised to be joined by 100 more this year, which represents “10% of Britain's small to medium-sized producers,” reports the Guardian. Consequently, it’s predicted that domestic production will decline another 20 percent by Christmas.

Britain’s pork farmers’ woes have been worsened by the droughts in the United States, which have increased the cost of feed. But what’s the source of their underlying problems? If you guessed government, go to the head of the class. As the Financial Times writes, “UK farmers are part of a global trend as the cost of feed and compliance with welfare regulations hits suppliers worldwide.”

The “regulations” in question are animal-welfare regulations

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The liberals won't be happy until America looks like Ethiopia.
1 posted on 09/29/2012 6:02:17 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
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To: Paladins Prayer
Robin Hood took money from the government and gave it back to the workers.
Robin Hood was an outlaw. He went Galt.
Robin was forced into that life when he killed one of the King's deer. No meat for peasants! Into the forest with you!
2 posted on 09/29/2012 6:04:34 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: Paladins Prayer

And sadly that’s their plan. The devil is very, very happy....


3 posted on 09/29/2012 6:06:39 AM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: demkicker

No shortage of pork in TX, feral hogs are taking over.


4 posted on 09/29/2012 6:09:57 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: Paladins Prayer

Another point, which the author overlooks, is that Muslims don’t eat pork. How convenient.

You’d really better be careful when you mess with the food supply though. Nothing like not being able to afford food to pi$$ people off.


5 posted on 09/29/2012 6:13:57 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Paladins Prayer

My daughter and her husband own a pig farm. Last night they were telling me of new regulations that could very well put them out of business. There is actually something regarding the “social” aspect of the pigs. How they are to be treated if they’re misbehaving, etc.

The animal rights and environmentalist are going to put an end to free markets and capitalism. The regulations being inflicted will drive people out of business. They even tell my son-in-law how high his grass is allowed to grow and in what proximity to his barns it can exist. He’s looking at $$$$$$$ to cage his light bulbs a certain way. They are forced to update two generators (which are working perfectly fine) or he cannot get fuel delivered - another $4,000.00 needlessly.

What on earth does it take to fight this?


6 posted on 09/29/2012 6:18:55 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Paladins Prayer

Bangers and snorkers...good-o


7 posted on 09/29/2012 6:19:14 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Paladins Prayer

If anyone has looked at the price of chicken, pork and beef lately, they already see confiscation of a great deal of meat...and other things that could have been purchased had those prices remained stable.


8 posted on 09/29/2012 6:19:36 AM PDT by stevem
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To: Paladins Prayer

Stop the ethanol BS and feed costs will go right back down.


9 posted on 09/29/2012 6:24:48 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Paladins Prayer
The liberals won't be happy until America looks like Ethiopia.

I like you optimistic point of view. I think the liberals and environmentalists will not be happy until we are rounded up into state apporved cities under Agenda 21. They will reduce birth rates and restore the country to their idea of it's natural condition. The human race must be destroyed to bring back “mother nature” One person actually said that the earth should not be scratched.

10 posted on 09/29/2012 6:28:16 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Paladins Prayer

40% of our drought ravaged corn crop will go to making worthless ethanol fuels that have done nothing to reduce our dependency on oil, exist solely with government subsidies from seed to tank and have made a few farmers and ADM rich. It would cost us less to just write corn farmers a check.


11 posted on 09/29/2012 6:29:37 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Dusty Road

We have feral hongs all over our place. I ate some boar hog meat once....... never again. BARF!


12 posted on 09/29/2012 6:29:47 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

sorry typo fat fingers and no coffee..... hongs=hogs but you knew that.......


13 posted on 09/29/2012 6:31:42 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: ClearCase_guy

Robin Hood was a thief. A well-intentioned thief, maybe, but a thief nonetheless.


14 posted on 09/29/2012 6:48:30 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Ditter

Working on coffee now, and I missed your typo the first time around!


15 posted on 09/29/2012 6:50:23 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: IronJack

The Robin Hood story is a story about taxpayers fighting back against a government of looters.

The looters have told you that he was a thief. They said he stole from the rich, but that is a self-serving rendition. He stole from the tax collectors. He gave to the tax payers.

Robin Hood is the Tea Party.


16 posted on 09/29/2012 6:51:12 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: Paladins Prayer

When the only thing left to eat is bread, i”ll probably have to turn to environmentalists and animal rights advocates. just simply cannot handle wheat and wheat byproducts.


17 posted on 09/29/2012 6:51:54 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Paladins Prayer

The purpose of the 2nd Amendment is becoming more and more clear every day (and it ain’t for shootin’ game).


18 posted on 09/29/2012 6:56:08 AM PDT by GnL
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To: Paladins Prayer

Socialists are adamantly opposed to abundance in anything, for a very clear reason. Socialism thrives only in conditions of shortage, where the government must ration *all* things, so the public are utterly dependent on government.

Why shortage must exist in *all* things is based in economics, because if *anything* is in abundance, it can be used as a de facto currency, allowing people to trade for what they want and what they don’t want, locking government out of the process.

This effort to create shortage is so profound among socialists that in East Germany, even music and color was restricted to only situations that “honored the state”. That is, things like colorful flowers were prohibited as ‘wasteful’, and paints were only available in black, white and gray.

The environmental movement is a gratuitous exercise in this idea. It actively promotes the idea that all things, even fresh water and clean air are in shortage, and that the only way to confront this shortage is for everyone (else) to have to make do with less. Of course this does not apply to them, which explains Al Gore’s energy consumptive mansion and frequent jet flights.

They adamantly oppose any idea to develop more of what may be in shortage, as this defeats their purpose, which is not the environment, but control. In truth they do not care about the environment at all.

Many years ago, I saw a superb example of this deceit. During a school campaign for students to “conserve water” in their homes, I found out that mining, industry and agriculture consumed something like 96% of the fresh water in the state, with only 4% used for domestic purposes.

So why the emphasis on domestic consumption? The tiny amount of water they might save is insignificant. The response to this was that it was *essential* to “raise awareness” about water conservation.

Ironically, just a day or two later, to save money the mining companies announced they were going to recycle the water they used. This decision immediate increased the available water in the entire state by almost 1/3rd.

Obviously, this should have killed the domestic conservation campaign dead as a doornail. But conservation was not the purpose of the campaign. “Raising awareness”, even based on a total lie was “what is important”, said one of its advocates.

Thus, I learned the warning that if anyone cites “raising awareness” as a reason behind some campaign, they are lying socialist scoundrels.

So the bottom line is that, while some shortage may exist in something for a while, the only people with credibility are those who want to address the shortage by creating more abundance. Those who insist that the only way to address a shortage is by “doing without” and rationing “what is left”, should be dismissed out of hand.


19 posted on 09/29/2012 7:06:48 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: Dusty Road

Well, I’m sure a new EPA regulation is on the way to protect those cutsy-wootsy 500 lb. beasts so we can’t kill them off.


20 posted on 09/29/2012 7:07:59 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk oMnly to me.)
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To: muawiyah

I think they call that ‘long pig’. A friend told me that spam was popular in the former cannibal islands of the Pacific because it tasted like long pig. LOL


21 posted on 09/29/2012 7:16:30 AM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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To: JudyinCanada

I have a pig farm in the Philipines- hardly any regs over there-just inspection-keep it really clean and healthy-and grease inspector`s palm a little; easy to make a profit- feed is s cheap, hardly any overhead and Pinoy family/part owner manages it= $500 3-oinker investment yields 1500$USD. multiply by couple thousand prokers is a lot of bacon.


22 posted on 09/29/2012 7:45:19 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (yup-Who knew??)
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To: JudyinCanada

I have a pig farm in the Philippines- hardly any regs over there-just inspection-keep it really clean and healthy-and grease inspector`s palm a little; easy to make a profit- feed is cheap, hardly any overhead and Pinoy family/part owner manages it= $500 3-oinker investment yields 1500$USD; multiply by couple thousand porkers is a lot of bacon. Bigger British companies in Phils export to rest of Asia. No taxes neither coz runs thru Pinoy family account and $$ stays in Phils.


23 posted on 09/29/2012 7:50:01 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (yup-Who knew??)
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To: Paladins Prayer

What does everyone expect and we have a Moooslim as POTUS.


24 posted on 09/29/2012 8:19:41 AM PDT by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: muawiyah

Grains are quite unhealthy. The nutritional equivalent of eating sugar.

But their cheap and the left intends to impoverish us, so they push them.

Reference the school lunches designed by MO. Fully of starch and grains.


25 posted on 09/29/2012 8:47:07 AM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: rbg81

Ya know something? YOU are right! I saw a story a few days ago on how pork prices were going to skyrocket sometime next year due to the failing corn crop, major hog food. However, they said nothing about the skyrocketing beef prices, also another corn consumer, probably even more so than pigs. Wouldn’t it be easier to sustain pigs rather than cattle? If there was going to be a shortage of anything, wouldn’t it be beef? The government planned the hog feed devistation by mandating ethanol production. I believe we’re being set up and this has to do with shiria law.


26 posted on 09/29/2012 8:47:19 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: JudyinCanada

***They are forced to update two generators (which are working perfectly fine) or he cannot get fuel delivered - another $4,000.00 needlessly.****

A friend of mine ran into this problem. He started a egg farm by borrowing money from his chicken supplier’s bank. He worked hard and paid it off.

The day he paid it off, the supplier (and bank owner) demanded upgrades before he would bring in new chickens. Back to the chicken supplier’s bank to borrow money.

He then worked hard and paid the loan off again. Then the supplier demanded more upgrades, so back to the bank.

If he went to a different bank for the loan the chicken supplier would have dropped him immediately as the supplier owned the bank.

After about 15 years of this cycle he sold out and has not raised a chicken since.


27 posted on 09/29/2012 9:00:51 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: muawiyah

***I’ll probably have to turn to environmentalists and animal rights advocates.***

I suppose if you are hungry enough a grain fed Environmentalist can become LONG PIG.


28 posted on 09/29/2012 9:03:46 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ditter
We have feral hongs all over our place. I ate some boar hog meat once....... never again. BARF!

If boars aren't castrated when young, they will taste awful. Best to have a 120 - 150 lb sow for eating.

29 posted on 09/29/2012 9:04:11 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 ("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

It’s just wrong. I was thinking of times when farmers minded their business, grew their crops and raised their animals and sold them at the market. They took care of everything because it was in their own best interest.

I am surprised your friend was able to sell his egg farm...guess the buyer didn’t know what he would be up against.


30 posted on 09/29/2012 9:10:38 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: 9YearLurker
Stop the ethanol BS and feed costs will go right back down.

Feed costs are NOT the problem.

31 posted on 09/29/2012 9:14:07 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: GnL
The purpose of the 2nd Amendment is becoming more and more clear every day (and it ain’t for shootin’ game).

Further relating this comment to the thread topic... hogs can come in handy for other purposes (according to Henry Bowman) before being sent to the slaughterhouse. Feral hogs should work just as well.

32 posted on 09/29/2012 9:16:11 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Balding_Eagle

It’s more an issue than are minimal animal cruelty standards.


33 posted on 09/29/2012 9:18:39 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: The Great RJ

Although no one has ever taken me up on it, I have links to several indepth studies over conducted over several years, and tens of thousands head of livestock from beef to poultry that shows that 40% number bandied about so freely is WAY high.

The study was conducted by several midwest university livestock professors who set about coveraging the real uses of the ‘ethanol corn’.

If you are interested in seeing actual scientific research as opposed to political research, let me know.

You’ll be the first.


34 posted on 09/29/2012 9:30:03 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Paladins Prayer

Import whale bacon from Japan


35 posted on 09/29/2012 12:10:02 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Obama gives us the gift of downward mobility)
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To: 9YearLurker

I can’t tell from your homepage, are you a farmer, or have any friends/relatives in farming?


36 posted on 09/29/2012 1:21:53 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Grew up on what is still a working farm.


37 posted on 09/29/2012 1:52:18 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ClearCase_guy
Robin Hood, in all probability, never even existed. He's a morality tale about taking from those you consider having taken from you unjustly. But Robin Hood had no more claim to the money he stole than the people who stole it to begin with. I suspect it's always dangerous to rob one person on behalf of another.

The only Tea Party I recognize is the one that featured the patriots from Boston, and their ideological heirs who want our government back. I don't include a mythical English highwayman, regardless of how you render his story.

38 posted on 09/29/2012 3:27:37 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Paladins Prayer
Governments never give - they only take. The one thing governments need is the consent or at least acquiescence of the people. This Obama Socialist tyranny thing is being moved forward with lies that a lot of people willingly believe. This Agenda 21 thing is also being implemented in America (and thus worldwide) by means of CONSENT.

Because they love and believe a lie, God shall send them strong delusion (2 Thessalonians 2:10). The world is headed for gross darkness (Isaiah 60:2) to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness (Daniel 9:24). The sign of His coming draws near. That that is determined shall be done (Daniel 11:36). What's coming is that great and terrible Day of God's vengeance (Isaiah 61:2) and the Wrath of the Lamb (Revelation 6:16).

If you are a believer, rejoice because the sign of His coming draws very near. He will come as a thief in the night to claim His own before that great and terrible Day. We that are His are not appointed to wrath but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ. (1 Thess 5:9). If you are not a believer, just receive Him now and you will be washed by the blood of Jesus and made righteous by His gift of grace.

In the meantime, let us be filled with faith and courage, fighting the good fight of faith and freedom. May we, like our forefathers, continue while we live, "with malice towards none and charity towards all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, [to] strive on to finish the work we are in..." (Abraham Lincolns 2nd Inaugural Address).

39 posted on 09/29/2012 6:28:47 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Paladins Prayer
The whole thing is utterly ridiculous. They bring in these regulations to "improve" the quality of the product, which drives the producers out of business, but the demand for the product still exists, so we end up having to import it from other coutnries which DON'T have to abide by all the regulations the well-intentioned by deranged have brought in!

The net result is that we end up with a devestated home grown industry, greater consumption of fuel because stuff is no longer locally sourced, a poorer balance of payments, and consumers have a lower quality product!

40 posted on 10/05/2012 12:35:30 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: IronJack
And did that ancient Tea Party not sequester someone elses property and subsequently destroy it?

The point about the stories of both Tea Party and Robin Hood is that no one is under moral obligation to obey an unjust law. After all, neither Tea Party activist or Merry Man had any part in framing the laws that they broke. And in that case, why should other people's ideas of what is legal bind you?

Cider House rules my man - "they aint my rules. I never wrote them".

41 posted on 10/05/2012 12:41:07 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

“..so we end up having to import it from other coutnries which DON’T have to abide by all the regulations the well-intentioned by deranged have brought in!”

Same with oil, gas and mining. If the environmentalists REALLY cared about the environment they would push for drilling and mining here - rather than Nigeria, Indonesia or China where they don’t care about the environment.


42 posted on 10/05/2012 12:50:00 AM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: Vanders9

You might want to bone up on the theory of social contract. We don’t all write all the laws. But we do agree to obey them. Robin Hood was not a citizen of a representative republic; we are.

And I don’t recall the eighth commandment having any qualifications: Thou shalt not steal ... unless it’s from the rich.

Robin Hood was a thief. He may have been a thief with a heart of gold, but the law he broke was not the king’s; it was God’s.


43 posted on 10/05/2012 5:22:42 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: JudyinCanada
What on earth does it take to fight this?

At this point in the game? Bullets.

I wish I were joking.

44 posted on 10/05/2012 5:42:56 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Paladins Prayer

Breeding pairs of Vietnamese potbelly pigs...hmmm


45 posted on 10/05/2012 5:55:19 AM PDT by Tuanedge (Warriors victorious in a hundred battles, flee when a tiger enters their tent.)
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To: IronJack
I'm sorry I dont understand your first statement. If Robin Hood was not a citizen of a representative republic, then he had no chance to agree or disagree with any law passed, so the "social contract" you cite did not exist for him. Conversely, if the tea party are members of a representative republic, then the social DOES apply. They have to obey the laws, even if they don't like them, because the way the representative republic works is that the majority opinion is always the way forward, and they were outvoted in the last election. Tough luck for them.

The eighth commandment does not have any qualifications. But its not the only commandment. By your argument, for fear of breaking God's eight commandment, people have no recourse against others cheating them, ripping them off, oppressing and murdering them.

46 posted on 10/06/2012 4:28:13 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9
Robin Hood may have been absolved of his duties under social contract, since (ostensibly) one did not exist. But as I said, the offense he committed was not against King John, but against God.

Stealing from those who stole from you -- or, in the case of Robin Hood, others he claimed to "champion," -- is still theft. There is recourse against those offenses, certainly, but not by answering theft with theft.

I say that fully knowing that this is not a perfect world, and admitting that I would be one of the first to take up arms against those who would rob me.

47 posted on 10/06/2012 4:37:19 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack

And what would you suggest Robin Hood’s recourse be then?


48 posted on 10/06/2012 5:07:56 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

Spoils of war are not contravened by religious law.


49 posted on 10/06/2012 5:35:22 PM PDT by Tuanedge (Warriors victorious in a hundred battles, flee when a tiger enters their tent.)
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To: Tuanedge

Hmm...Did Robin Hood have a legal right to take up arms?


50 posted on 10/07/2012 2:27:07 AM PDT by Vanders9
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